LibertyBell

it slowly got less and less lol 2002-03 was my favorite and top winter of the decade with the biggest snowstorm (the only 2 foot storm here) and an april snowstorm too! and 2003-04 was very good, very cold with the earliest blizzard we have ever had followed by the famous pink snow snowstorm in January, 2004-05 was a little less than that and 2005-06 was only an average winter here because we only got a little over a foot in the blizzard, the april snowfall that year actually had higher rates here even though only 2" fell.

Oh, you must mean the 1821 Norfolk and Long Island Hurricane which made landfall near Cape May, NJ as a Cat 4 and went due north and hit Manhattan as a Cat 3, the only major hurricane to ever make landfall in NYC. It came in at low tide (but still had a very high surge.)

Yep, at our latitude the westerlies usually speed them up. 1815 was Tambora and the first Year Without a Summer. There was a hurricane in 1804 that sliced through Central Long Island and up the CT River Valley in early October and it was so cold that we changed to sleet on the backside with temps in the mid 30s. It was a Cat 2 at landfall. Rated as F2 prior to the SS scale because back then tornadoes and hurricanes were rated on the same scale. The hurricane you're talking about was probably the Great Massachusetts Bay Colony hurricane which may have been a Cat 4 at landfall (or at least Cat 3.5-- which is 130 MPH) which hit in the late 1700s (I forget the exact year.) That Pre Columbian hurricane speculation about the 1400s is that it was either a really big hurricane or a megatsunami (which could either happen from a big earthquake near the Canary Is. or the impact of an asteroid. The latter has already happened; Chesapeake Bay was created from an impact, the asteroid split in two parts and the second part fell into the ocean just east of Toms River.)

question-- why did you go there? lol

In spite of all this, the NYC-Long Island-NJ area was hit by a megahurricane sometime in the 1400s in the "pre Columbian era."

There is a way to get some idea of what it might be like. I'm borrowing the idea that during a total solar eclipse, just before totality, we get to see what the sun would look like from Pluto in terms of incoming light.... So, the ice sheets made it down as far as NYC and Long Island at their furthest extent southward. This means the mean temperature for the year was around 32F (0C). Now just go north along the north american east coast until you hit the place that has an average annual temperature around that mark and see what kind of snowfall they have and you'll have an approximate idea of what it would have been like around here. You'll probably need to go to Greenland (or maybe northern Newfoundland) to find it.

It was a very good storm but underrated because it was overshadowed by PD2 from a few years before. PD2 was the storm of the decade.

this was a "super clipper"

Saturday should be the best day in a long time.

I loved the smooth graphics and even smoother easy listening music from back then lol

the Ravens will squash the Chiefs into submission they would have done the same to the Bills too

I've sometimes seen this in the Poconos, it must be remnant moisture from the lakes? It can snow all day and not pile up at all, but it sure looks pretty to see it fall. It just leaves dustings behind. Meanwhile when I come back here it's just clear and windy and cold lol.

why do rainstorms last for 5 days and snow events last for 12 hours?

and why does the media complain when it's cold? and then they talk about climate change lol. With how much the media says get this cold weather out of here and let's get back into the 50s (in the middle of winter!), you'd think they'd love climate change. They just need to pick one thing, either you like warm weather and want climate change or you love cold weather and don't want it.

Mild is okay as long as it's sunny. I saw a map that indicated it would be in the 60s on Friday.... but not sunny? But by Saturday it'll be sunny again and around 50? I'd rather have that.

on the positive side.... February has an extra day this year lol. And luckily it comes at the end of the month sooooo an extra day for it to snow?!

Does Central Park's 2.3" tie it with the overall total for last season?

They name their storms dont they?

wow thats so interesting, for 3 years in a row we received double digit snowstorms around 1/20-- in 2014, 2015 and 2016.

and will it be sunny? I see they are saying sunny and 50s for Saturday

what was the amount that actually fell across the area? this one didn't change to rain did it?

Well I'd like to limit it to the east coast in general, east of the Mississippi.

I see there was a year just before official records being kept when NYC recorded 90" of snow in the 1860s? But even before that I have heard that both NYC and Philly reached 100" of snow, do you have any idea what years this might have happened in, Don?

Thanks, Larry! What would you say overall was the snowiest winter if you use all available records and accounts going as far back as possible?

-9 and -10 have to be close to the all time records for ACY and TTN too.