LibertyBell
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Unfortunately cold air doesn't like to move west to east lol. It would be interesting to see a temperature anomaly composite for the entire continent of this season vs both 1997-98 and 2001-02.
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If you're talking about December I agree, but January and February, there was very little cold air here. Having both months average above 40 is very rare.
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New England was much milder relative to average though, you only need temps in the 30s to get good snow of course. I don't care about Arctic air, it's not necessary. We've had very little cold air nearby this season too, you just have to look at the average temps in January and February, the warmest such couplet on record.
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Those trailing waves are very rare, to my knowledge a likelihood of that happening is like 10%
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It depends on what you mean by cold air, there is always cold air somewhere, but usually it's at a higher latitude. We only need it to be "just cold enough" which means near average. February 2010 was an amazing month for snow but it wasn't very cold. It sucked for New England but we don't care about New England....February 2010 was one of the snowiest months on record without much cold, and that's even with that historic miss at the beginning of the month. If we had that it would have been our snowiest winter ever. Toms River probably had that since it had the best of all the snowstorms that season.
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More like 2001-02 then
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For example we had less cold air outbreaks in 2009-10....cold air doesn't ecessarily equal snow in this area. I'd rather have less cold and more snow.
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I do remember some epic historic ice storms just north of us in 97-98 Cold air doesn't mean anything if the pattern doesn't allow cold air to be here during storms, we had that during the 80s and early 90s too You can have snow and lots of it, without it being very cold.
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It will be interesting to see what happens. I think March will be closer to average too, but temps will shoot up again in April.
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we had a lot of storms including coastals in 97-98, this winter is far more boring. also warmer than 97-98 by a fair margin
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That's what ranks 2001-02 #1 in all respects.
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Can we get this in the summer too? I'm hoping for that to cancel out the Gulf of Mexico toxicity and get a string of dry and hot summers
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neutral after la nina like 2001-02 is worse than either strong el ninos can dump big snowstorms here
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That was the fluke event, 2001-02 didn't have a fluke event, it was bad throughout including in March. Say what about January? This January trounced 1997-98 in warmth and every other January, look at the avg temp lol. 2001-02 was worse than 1997-98, I lived through both. I have zero memory of that fluke March event so it had to be meaningless and melted an hour after it fell, but still 2001-02 was worse.
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Thanks Don, wow 2011-12 will be hard to match! What was NYC seasonal snowfall if we exclude October?
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Don what do you think of this prediction.....within the next 20 years JFK will average below 15" of snow? I can see that happening easily.
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we have had plenty of below 10" snowfall seasons here though in the last 35 years, I really think 2018 was the massive outlier. I guess you could say 1998 had a fluke event, but 2001-02 basically flatlined. JFK will average below 15 inches of seasonal snowfall probably within the next 20 years.
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3 winters in that 41+ club, all since 2000.....and the top 4 winters since then too.
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Thanks Don! I like total seasonal snowfall but I was looking for a warmest 4 month comparison to see how this season stacks up with 2001-02 and 1997-98
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wow even 6-12 inches at 2000 feet is amazing, but 7 feet above 4000 feet!
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I saw that! Snow in the Hollywood Hills!
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First 80 of the year for DC? Perhaps Baltimore's too?
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It's interesting that 2001-02 is the warmest winter on record by a mile and before this one no other winter was close. Do they keep records for astronomical winter too Don or at least the four months of the snow season-- DJFM?
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is 2.0 the proverbial perfect score Don?
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That was interesting today, but I always feel guilty when I see that kind of damage. I don't root for it and never would. I know what it feels like when a bunch of trees fell on my property during a microburst and I had to replace part of my roof.
