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If they are so predictable, how come our models have such a problem predicting them ;-)
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wow these are stunningly beautiful, I have seen some models like this for LA and other cities as one solution to expanding cities. terraced gardens....
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sunny and dry is fine but this damn wind needs to stop if fire become a real threat remove all the fuel. A scientist friend of mine told me if the West is really serious about stopping fires they just need to remove the trees and brush and pave everything over with concrete (he was joking-- sort of.) It's going to happen one day as our population grows we'll have more and larger cities and the fuel for these fires will be chopped away and removed (for better or for worse.)
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The last cycle was a long one (but it did have some breaks in it) maybe we will now have more pronounced and more amplified cycles but with a shorter duration? Isn't there a law of conservation of momentum that states this should be the case? Anyway if we start from the 70s we had this from 1969-70 to 1975-76 and then we saw a break because of the two year el nino which continued on for a few years to the super el nino and beyond 1976-77 to 1986-87 and then we had another period of fast flow from 1987-88 to 1991-92 and then we started to get a major breakdown beginning with 1992-93 continuing to 1995-96 before we saw one more period of fast Pac flow from 1996-97 to 2001-02 and thats when that entire pattern broke down from 2002-03 to 2005-06. It came back from 2006-07 to 2008-09 and then left again with the el nino of 2009-10 and that period lasted through 2017-18. And then the fast Pac flow resumed again with 2018-19. Obviously I'm leaving out some years that bucked the decadal trend but I'm just trying to broadbrush general patterns.
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The way I picture it, the strong jet stream favors west to east tracks rather than south to north or southwest to northeast tracks, hence no benchmark tracks. The only time we get non west to east tracks is when the SE ridge amplifies enough to break the west to east track and to amplify that much it has to become really strong and then we get cutter tracks.
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So these high winds aren't from yesterday's storm being slow to depart and strengthening, Chris?
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Winter 2024-2025 All Tri-State Snowfall Totals Maps
LibertyBell replied to The 4 Seasons's topic in New York City Metro
my favorite map of the year! Mt Pocono not on here? is there any way to get these for past seasons? -
why are we getting this horrible wind? I thought this storm was gone? And if it's not gone why isn't the strong pacific flow getting rid of it more quickly? I couldn't sleep all night it made my allergies act up. If a storm is going to bring this kind of wind, I'm good with no storms for the rest of the month, sunny and dry is MUCH better.
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aren't +NAO becoming much more common in the winter and -NAO are becoming much more common in the Spring? Larry showed some stats that back this up.
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10" of snow in Florida and 12" near New Orleans lol
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our hottest summers were in the 90s and the early 00s though. I don't think -NAO correlates to a cool summer either though.
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-NAO doesn't mean a cool summer, didn't 2010 have a -NAO?
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-NAO summer doesn't mean the summers would be cooler though -NAO can result in a blowtorch summer too. It's really moreso that we have a -NAO in the spring.
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2022-23 was the least snowiest winter here, so we beat you by one year haha. seriously this decade has been the least snowiest one so far.
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1954 - Florida received its greatest modern-day snowfall of record, with 4.0 inches at the Milton Experimental Station. Pensacola FL equalled their 24-hour record with 2.1 inches of snow. (The Weather Channel) well I guess that 1954 record has been broken lol-- funny that it was originally set in March! and thanks for a fitting memorium for the March 1962 noreaster! 1962: The strongest nor'easter of this century struck the Mid-Atlantic Region on March 5-9, 1962. It is known as the "Ash Wednesday Storm" and caused over $200 million (1962 dollars) in property damage and significant coastal erosion from North Carolina to Long Island, New York. It was estimated to have destroyed or significantly damaged 45,000 homes in New Jersey alone. The Red Cross recorded that the storm killed 40 people. It hit during "Spring Tide." When the sun and moon are in phase, they produce a higher-than-average astronomical tide. Water reached nine feet at Norfolk (flooding begins around five feet). Houses were toppled into the ocean, and boardwalks were broken and twisted. The islands of Chincoteague and Assateague, Maryland, were completely underwater. Ocean City, Maryland, sustained significant damage, mainly to the island's south end. Winds up to 70 mph built 40-foot waves at sea. Heavy snow fell in the Appalachian Mountains. Big Meadows, southeast of Luray, recorded Virginia's greatest 24-hour snowfall with 33 inches and the most significant single storm snowfall with 42 inches. (Luray, Virginia reported 33.5 inches on March 2-3, 1994, making this later snow their maximum 24-hour snowfall total.) Roads were blocked, and electrical service was out for several days. Washington and Baltimore fell into the mixed precipitation zone. The Ash Wednesday storm is noteworthy for producing devastating tidal flooding along the Atlantic Coast and record snows and the interior of Virginia. The extremely high tides and massive waves caused tremendous damage -worst than many hurricanes that have hit the region. Along the Atlantic Coast, tide ran for 2 to 6 ft above average with 20 to 40 ft waves crashing ashore. National Airport received only 4 inches of snow with a liquid equivalent of 1.33 inches. However, close-in suburbs, such as Silver Spring, Maryland, and Falls Church, Virginia, received 11 inches of snow. Outlying areas such as Rockville, Maryland, received 19 inches of snow, and Leesburg, Virginia, received 20 inches of snow. Other snow totals included 15 inches at Richmond; 23 inches at Culpeper; 26 inches at Charlottesville; 32 inches at Winchester; and 35 inches at Fort Royal, Virginia, and Big Meadows on the Skyline Drive top the list with 42 inches of snow.
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1872 - A cold wave hit the East coast sending the mercury plunging to 8 degrees below zero at Boston. It was the most severe March cold wave in modern history. (David Ludlum) wild, did it get near 0 at NYC too, Tony?
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this winter actually had some things in common with both 1962-63 and 1967-68, namely less than 20 inches of snow in winters with below 32 degree average temperature.
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I loved that heatwave in April 2002, some of the bluest skies I have ever seen as well as the summer that followed. And then our last beginning to end snowy winter in 2002-03. March 1998 was extreme like March 1990 was, but in the reverse direction, we went from mid to upper 80s in the middle of March to a small snow event (up to 1") in early April 1990.
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2017-2018 was a wild but fun snow season. We had the cold blizzard in the first week of January on the anniversary of January 1996 centered around 2 weeks of very cold weather and a mild February (but it still snowed for Valentines Day) and then 4 snow storms in March and then the one in April that snowed out the Yankees home opener. I love those April snowstorms, because you enjoy them more knowing they are the last one for the season.
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wow 1931-32 also sounds like 1997-98 and 2001-02 here. 1997-98 in particular had only 0.5 inch of snow (HALF AN INCH) through the vernal equinox and then we got a too little too late surprise wet snowstorm that dropped 5 inches after spring had already started that melted in 2 hours lol 1966-67 was similar here, it had one of our all time best Christmas Eve snowstorms with around 8 inches and then a big thaw in January but a major return to winter for February and March with over 2 feet of snow in each of those months including our latest single digit temperature on record near the first day of astronomical spring (and below 0 on Long Island).
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wow you have a crazy amount of growth for such a cold location!
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Occasional Thoughts on Climate Change
LibertyBell replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
Are you sure this is AI writing all this? Sometimes it almost seems like a person wrote it and saved it into Grok.... and yeah I have a tough time believing AI would use colloquial phrases like this -
Occasional Thoughts on Climate Change
LibertyBell replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
AI is scary. The logic is sound: peak summer temperatures matter more for ice melt than annual averages, and orbital forcing excels at spiking those peaks. This is something I've thought for a long time and see it with our NYC temperatures here, high temperatures have peaked and instead it's the averages that are increasing via higher mins. But we actually had more peak heat in the 90s and in the first 4 years of the 2010s. -
1988-89 had a suppressive pattern similar to this winter (remember the February 1989 bust that dumped all the snow in an area from Norfolk to Atlantic City and just missed us.)
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Thanks, two things I see right away both our locations have in common: 1931-32 was a really really bad F grade winter for both of us. 1966-67 was a great A grade winter for both of us. I wish I had been alive to see that whole year, I love hot and dry followed by cold and snowy and the summer of 1966 and winter of 1966-67 were exactly that.