LibertyBell

Yes and it's not always about ENSO either. My favorite winters were a combo of different things. 1993-94 1995-96 2002-03 2009-10 2010-11 2013-14 2014-15 2017-18

and the solar maximum (though it's really great for northern lights displays even in the south.)

it reminds me of a movie-- Dante's Peak, I think?

I'm just glad we are only going to get the typical scattered showers/thunderstorms and not any more of these evil closed off lows.

Oh we saw it last year in October even from the city, you probably saw that one too, it was even at a decent time (around 7-7:30 pm), great sky conditions too since there was 0 rain in October last year and barely ever any clouds lol.

and perhaps 1993-94 too which was severely cold and the models had huge problems with all the storms we had that year, underestimating the lingering cold.

No, here on Long Island right now.

It reminded me of when I was in Barcelona, the same kind of heat. Or what we had in 2010 lol.

did you see the northern lights from Lynbrook?

Not very hot, but more like warm to very warm. Maybe 90 on Thursday the other days will be low to mid 80s.

The interesting thing is, I see clear blue skies to my north and east and west and a yellowish haze to my south.

If Dubai can air condition the sand on their beaches than we can artificially heat up our near coastal waters beginning in May. It would be a boon to the beach business.

artificially heating up the oceans beginning in May is necessary.

This is why I can't wait for SST to heat up to 70+

to be fair, I think it's more likely to get such a departure from average in the summer if you have a renegade closed off low and onshore flow with rain. Average temperatures mute the extremes, so they don't really show us extreme highs or extreme lows. As an example July 1993 which had our most extensive and extreme heatwave of my adult lifetime (July 1977 had an even more extreme one but I was only 3 years old lol), had a day with a high of 66 and a low of 62 on the 2nd, because of a big rainstorm with onshore flow and high winds. A week later the historic heatwave started.

Hold on a sec Chris. You know I'm 100% with you regarding climate change and how it has affected global weather patterns. But on the local scale it's not as clear cut as that. Specifically with regards to using old analogs do you remember when all the mild predictions came out for 2010-11 as late as the middle of December? Just because it was a strong la nina? And then when we had unrelenting cold and snow we started looking at old analogs from the 1910s to find strong la ninas that were as cold and snowy as 2010-11 was?

I found something really interesting about JFK's heat record. JFK has hit 100+ 19 times (between 100-104) including two streaks of 3 days of 100+ JFK has also hit 99 19 times lol..... so 38 times of 99+

I thought it was because volcanoes like Pinatubo have more of an influence over the summer than the winter? It had a big impact in summer 1992.

Yes, the early 2010s streak was extreme but shortlived. It was 2010-2013 while the era from the 1930s through the 1950s started in 1932 (and what a warm winter 1931-32 was!) and lasted until 1966. We had a big drought in the 60s that actually extended it through that decade too.

wow were you sad to go to Greece during such delightful weather? Based on my past experiences in Greece I would think you weren't sad lol

March should have an asterisk, it was absolutely baking last year lol February 2025 is -0.8?

wild June 1980 for JFK for what happened to be one of our hottest summers and the hottest July-August couplet (at least at NYC). wow the one in June 1918 was actually on the longest day of the year and during actual summer!

getting a high in the 60s with sunshine in June is pretty crazy too!

wow that must have been something! I remember an upper 40s (49) sometime in the mid-late 80s in mid August. I remember it like it was yesterday. It was my first time staying up all night and I stayed awake all night and I laid down in my driveway for 4 straight nights to see the Perseids. It turned out to be four of the clearest, crispest low humidity nights that August has EVER seen. It was my first Perseids and it did not disappoint-- I even saw a giant fireball just before sunrise a few minutes before I was going to go in to go to sleep! Unfortunately that kind of deep sky with chilly weather with low humidity very rarely ever happened again in August, maybe only once or twice in the last 40 years. I think it was August 1987 if I remember correctly. Could have been August 1986 too though.

Don what was the low on June 4th 2023 at NYC and JFK and when's the latest we've ever had a low in the 40s?