LibertyBell

But it's not a hot summer either, hot has a specific definition that refers to a high number of 90 and 95 degree days and 100 degree days too. We used to get these frequently in the 40s and 50s, as most of our heat records are from that era (with another peak in the 80s, 90s up to 02.)

yes we can call it a warm summer, but hot has a specific definition that refers to extreme temperatures while warm can merely refer to elevated averages from higher mins.

yeah this weather will only make more people sick it's why I need to do extensive spraying tick bites for animals are way above normal by the way glad to see you're coming around to my way of thinking that above average temperatures does not mean it's hot. I know it's a nuanced discussion but *hot* has a specific definition and a rainy summer even with +2 temperatures with a low number of 90 and 95 degree days and no 100 degree days is not a hot summer. the whole thing about average temperatures I feel is used to construct a narrative by people that just isn't true and doesn't pass the eye test. And I'm someone who knows full well about and agrees with climate change science. But I know what a hot summer is and above average with lots of rain and a low number of hot days just does not cut it.

EWR: 102 (2011) now this is real heat, not bogus *above average* temperatures that some people confuse with heat

above normal doesn't cut it for me, as averages can be elevated without any hot days, just a lot of rain and elevated minima. this is why warm and hot describe completely different things we can be above normal without any hot days or any sunshine for that matter that's not a hot summer.

cool (like today) or warm but definitely not hot. above normal = warm hot = large number of 90 and 95 degree days and a few 100 degree days thrown in. That's how I view warm vs hot. warm describes elevated averages while hot refers to number of hot days (this is how the NWS describes it too). when talking about hot days, elevated minima are not factored in as the word *hot* as a specific definition refers to how high the high temperatures are. the excessive rain is why our number of hot days is down.

I found out something interesting watching Jeopardy the other night. Cooperstown was named after the family of the great writer, James Fenimore Cooper :-)

Yes really, anyone talking about how CC is making our summers *hotter* is only referring to minimum temps.

No, where is this place, upstate?

My neighbors are complete morons. The rains came and dowsed their fire so they poured oil on the fire which then caused it to flare up and almost ended up burning themselves and their 5 year old kid who was dancing around the fire.

I really detest this new climate

Couldn't have one completely good day.... at least it was sunny for the big parade lol. I hate our new Ireland climate. CC summers mean cool and rainy for us. and if it's not cool and rainy it's warm and rainy, but never truly hot.

Are they too cold because of trying to dampen down their overproduction of TCs? Why adjust global models for TCs anyway? That's not what global models are for! Use tropical models for TCs and use global models for temperate cyclones.

It's definitely much better in the Poconos.

it's windy and my neighbors have an open fire going between our two houses, I can smell the burning fat from here, I just hope they don't burn down both our houses.

for suffolk county not until after 4 pm

It was perfect until about 5 minutes ago lol

we need to put all this excess moisture on the upcoming lunar colony and the future colony on Mars, they'll need it MUCH more than we do.

it finally got cloudy here at 3 pm

I think July 1966 was hotter, it had the highest temperature of record at both LGA (107) and JFK (104) and EWR (105) which was tied twice in 1993 and later broken in 2011 (108). NYC somehow only recorded a maximum of 103 in 1966, which was 4 degrees lower than LGA and a degree lower than JFK.

We're still holding onto mostly sunny here although I do see clouds building to my south.

Maybe once we complete the switch back to -AMO we will have summers like 1993 and 1999 and 2002 and 2010 again.

Did you see the temperatures I posted from 2010? WOW, we just need a summer as dry as that to get some nice dry heat.... 101 degrees with a dew point of 45 is some of the cleanest air we can ever get around here. High water vapor in our air is a recipe for air pollution in the summer.

2:51 PM 99 °F 45 °F 16 % WNW 17 mph 22 mph 29.94 in 0.0 in Partly Cloudy 3:51 PM 99 °F 48 °F 18 % W 18 mph 24 mph 29.92 in 0.0 in Partly Cloudy

and a high of 101 with a dew point of 45 wunderground lists the temp as 99 on this fateful day but in between hours JFK hit 101 as shown in the records July 4th 2010 was my favorite July 4th of all time, in a stretch of 3 out of 4 days at or above 100 degrees and a nice dry heat!! https://www.wunderground.com/history/daily/us/ny/new-york-city/KJFK/date/2010-7-4 Summary Temperature (°F) Actual Historic Avg. Record High Temp 99 82.9 101 Low Temp 70 67.6 59 Day Average Temp 84.43 75.2 - Precipitation (in) Actual Historic Avg. Record Precipitation (past 24 hours from 04:51:00) 0.00 5.20 - Dew Point (°F) Actual Historic Avg. Record Dew Point 55.87 - - High 63 - - Low 45 - - Average 55.87 - - Wind (mph) Actual Historic Avg. Record Max Wind Speed 18 - - Visibility 10 - - Sea Level Pressure (in) Actual Historic Avg. Record Sea Level Pressure 30.01 - - Astronomy Day Length Rise Set Actual Time 14h 59m 5:30 AM 8:30 PM Civil Twilight 4:57 AM 9:03 PM Nautical Twilight 4:15 AM 9:45 PM Astronomical Twilight 3:26 AM 10:34 PM Moon: waning crescent - 1:23 PM Daily Observations Time Temperature Dew Point Humidity Wind Wind Speed Wind Gust Pressure Precip. Condition 11:51 PM 72 °F 63 °F 73 % WSW 7 mph 0 mph 30.02 in 0.0 in Fair 12:51 AM 73 °F 62 °F 68 % WSW 8 mph 0 mph 30.01 in 0.0 in Fair 1:51 AM 71 °F 60 °F 68 % SW 6 mph 0 mph 30.00 in 0.0 in Fair 2:51 AM 70 °F 62 °F 76 % SW 7 mph 0 mph 30.00 in 0.0 in Fair 3:51 AM 74 °F 57 °F 55 % W 9 mph 0 mph 30.00 in 0.0 in Fair 4:51 AM 73 °F 56 °F 55 % W 8 mph 0 mph 30.01 in 0.0 in Fair 5:51 AM 71 °F 59 °F 66 % WSW 9 mph 0 mph 30.01 in 0.0 in Fair 6:51 AM 74 °F 58 °F 57 % WSW 8 mph 0 mph 30.01 in 0.0 in Fair 7:51 AM 76 °F 60 °F 58 % WSW 8 mph 0 mph 30.01 in 0.0 in Fair 8:51 AM 82 °F 56 °F 41 % W 9 mph 0 mph 30.01 in 0.0 in Fair 9:51 AM 88 °F 54 °F 31 % W 9 mph 0 mph 30.00 in 0.0 in Fair 10:51 AM 93 °F 52 °F 25 % NW 10 mph 0 mph 29.99 in 0.0 in Partly Cloudy 11:51 AM 95 °F 51 °F 22 % WNW 14 mph 21 mph 29.98 in 0.0 in Fair 12:51 PM 95 °F 50 °F 22 % W 15 mph 22 mph 29.96 in 0.0 in Fair 1:51 PM 97 °F 51 °F 21 % SW 15 mph 23 mph 29.94 in 0.0 in Fair 2:51 PM 99 °F 45 °F 16 % WNW 17 mph 22 mph 29.94 in 0.0 in Partly Cloudy 3:51 PM 99 °F 48 °F 18 % W 18 mph 24 mph 29.92 in 0.0 in Partly Cloudy