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several CAMs fire storms along the sea breeze in Delaware by early/mid afternoon
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2022 Mid-Atlantic Severe Wx Thread (General Discussion Etc)
high risk replied to Kmlwx's topic in Mid Atlantic
There were several lightning strikes this evening on outflow boundaries, with no rainfall or other nearby lightning, so it's not surprising that people were caught off guard. -
NAM Nest is doing its usual thing of having low-level dew points that are too high, which inflates the CAPE. That said, even though that solution has the most organized convection of the CAMs, most do show at least a few storms in the area later today. Tomorrow looks like the bigger deal. The HRRR is an outlier with its *low* dew points - most CAMs show widespread heavy storms in the area towards dinner time.
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some significant changes so far in the 12Z suite of models: several CAMs now show a batch of heavy showers moving across a good chunk of northern VA and northwestern MD during Sunday afternoon. The HRRR even goes so far as to make it a full Sunday afternoon washout for the metro areas. Will be interesting to see if this is a one-cycle glitch for the guidance or if it's figuring out now that Sunday won't be nearly as nice of a day as originally expected.
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2022 Mid-Atlantic Severe Wx Thread (General Discussion Etc)
high risk replied to Kmlwx's topic in Mid Atlantic
Got 0.26" just south of you. I posted in the Obs thread that the thunder really started cranking after the line passed, and you could see it in the lightning data. There were many strikes well behind the rainfall, including one here that was maybe 75 yards away and took out our power for 5 hours -
2022 Mid-Atlantic Severe Wx Thread (General Discussion Etc)
high risk replied to Kmlwx's topic in Mid Atlantic
Slight risk today includes DC at the northern edge. Consistent with that, HRRR definitely likes the area south of town. -
This is an excellent discussion. The GFS hasn't caught on to this threat yet, but the ECMWF and Canadian have.
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One other odd aspect of the storm yesterday: there was no lightning as the line moved through southern Howard, but it started cranking out bolts on the back side of the storm as it moved into PG. There were numerous lightning strikes in Howard, eastern Montgomery, and western PG well after the rain had ended, including one that was way, way too close here and knocked out our power for 5 hours.
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2022 Mid-Atlantic Severe Wx Thread (General Discussion Etc)
high risk replied to Kmlwx's topic in Mid Atlantic
Today was a total kick in the teeth. -
2022 Mid-Atlantic Severe Wx Thread (General Discussion Etc)
high risk replied to Kmlwx's topic in Mid Atlantic
Good point, but I *think* that it only affects the timing and not whether we get storms. If the line remains intact, I think it drives through the area in the early afternoon. If not, we wait for cells to fire to our west and move east during the later afternoon. None of the CAMs fail to move storms through the area at some point today, although there are admittedly disagreements in the amount of coverage. -
2022 Mid-Atlantic Severe Wx Thread (General Discussion Etc)
high risk replied to Kmlwx's topic in Mid Atlantic
I feel even better after looking at the 00Z suite, especially for those south of I-70. -
2022 Mid-Atlantic Severe Wx Thread (General Discussion Etc)
high risk replied to Kmlwx's topic in Mid Atlantic
Right, and we have respectable shear too. My concern remains, however, that several CAMs have a dying line arriving during the morning. Most of the solutions still allow us to get hot and generate new strong storms on the outflow, but the coverage isn't what I would expect to see in the setup, and we all know that this type of scenario fails here with great ease. I'm still optimistic (honestly, I just want some rain!), but it's a cautious optimism. -
I don't see an active photos thread, so I'll put it here and apologize if I screwed up, but the sky ahead of that dying line yesterday evening was glorious:
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2022 Mid-Atlantic Severe Wx Thread (General Discussion Etc)
high risk replied to Kmlwx's topic in Mid Atlantic
Monday definitely has some really good SVR potential here. CAPE is extremely high in several models, and deep layer shear will be more than adequate. I'd say that we could get a day 2 ENH, but the timing on a few solutions might preclude that. The idea of a dying line of storms in the morning rejuvenating in the early afternoon could still work fine, but that scenario finds a way to screw us more often than it should. -
2022 Mid-Atlantic Severe Wx Thread (General Discussion Etc)
high risk replied to Kmlwx's topic in Mid Atlantic
The outflow discussed in the 6 posts right before yours. -
2022 Mid-Atlantic Severe Wx Thread (General Discussion Etc)
high risk replied to Kmlwx's topic in Mid Atlantic
Always fun to have a rogue MCS that the models can't handle. Box may be coming shortly for eastern WV and parts of northern VA. HRRR shows the line falling apart, but it has already held together much longer and stronger than the model has shown. -
2022 Mid-Atlantic Severe Wx Thread (General Discussion Etc)
high risk replied to Kmlwx's topic in Mid Atlantic
The CAMs have been pretty confident that new cells will form on the outflow and roll through Howard County. I suppose we could still fail, but I like our chances - I know that I also really need the rain and am not optimistic that the timing of the Thursday system will work out in our favor. -
2022 Mid-Atlantic Severe Wx Thread (General Discussion Etc)
high risk replied to Kmlwx's topic in Mid Atlantic
Definitely progressive, and it was correctly noted that this partially accounts for some areas that have been very wet in the past week, but there is actually some signal for several rounds of storms: In this example, you have a lead intense line, followed by a bit of a break, but then followed by another high-reflectivity area. And if you go 2 more hours, there is more redevelopment behind that second batch. Not every CAM shows this, but the HRRR scenario would definitely cause some flooding issues. -
2022 Mid-Atlantic Severe Wx Thread (General Discussion Etc)
high risk replied to Kmlwx's topic in Mid Atlantic
Looking like an active late Monday afternoon and evening, especially for those north of DC. CAPE doesn't appear to be tremendously impressive due to weak lapse rates, and shear is marginal, but downdraft CAPE looks quite good, so it's definitely at least a MRGL day with some potential for an upgrade to SLGT. One thing that stands out on the 00Z guidance is that a lot of CAMs show multiple rounds of storms, so some flash flooding potential likely exists. -
2022 Mid-Atlantic Severe Wx Thread (General Discussion Etc)
high risk replied to Kmlwx's topic in Mid Atlantic
Yeah, the clouds at sunset had a convective look that suggested some forcing arriving, and the radar has really blown up. There were a few model runs today (12z NAM Nest stands out) that suggested that the weak front would light up a bit after dark. -
Some guidance had hinted at some convective development after sunset, and radar is now blossoming to the west.
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2022 Mid-Atlantic Severe Wx Thread (General Discussion Etc)
high risk replied to Kmlwx's topic in Mid Atlantic
Yes! This has some potential to transition to a heavy rain event, mainly along and south of I-66. -
2022 Mid-Atlantic Severe Wx Thread (General Discussion Etc)
high risk replied to Kmlwx's topic in Mid Atlantic
He's completely accepting the details of the HRRR which has been pretty consistent in weakening that system. Not totally sure how much I'd trust that. -
The map takes into account how much rain has fallen in recent days, and that big rain Friday night in the Arlington-Bethesda corridor has really lowered the rain totals needed to cause problems there. There will certainly be regions within the higher threat area that are far lower risk than others, but it's accounting for the general threat.
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2022 Mid-Atlantic Severe Wx Thread (General Discussion Etc)
high risk replied to Kmlwx's topic in Mid Atlantic
As long as ongoing convection to the northwest hasn't screwed up the schedule at BWI, and no other delays occur, you *should* be ok, as no guidance has storms arriving at BWI that early.