Who said it was going to "shut down" forcing in those regions? Are el Nino seasons supposed to be devoid of Maritime forcing? I have never argued that...we were in the west PAC phases during November, so we are not "shut down" there, either. As far as the warmth in region 4, again, no one is forecasting a cold season, so why are you bringing up weak Modoki years? All I am saying is that the position near the dateline will keep the warmth in check and give us wintery periods.