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That's a great idea, if we have a mesonet location in the Park we can actually compare it to the *official* NWS ASOS.....and maybe some corrective factor can be applied to the ASOS (both for temperatures and wind speeds)?

Did we have less trees in the 40s, 50s and 60s when all those 100+ readings and 7+ day heatwaves were happening (as well as years like 1993 and 1999) or was there overgrowth because of the higher rainfall totals we have now? Maybe it's a combination of both? And more rainfall also means more water retention by the foliage which also makes for a slower temperature rise. I agree we need to get the equipment out of that area. We also need to remove some of these trees, I notice we have a lot of parasitic trees that really do not belong here. Tree of *Heaven* being a case in point.

Scenes from Texas are horrific. My wife is friends (well acquaintances) with one whose child is missing. If you look at radar loops it never moved for 8 hours. 10” rain in an hour.

Peak winds at flight level 46 knots ~100 miles E of center: 151600 3126N 07712W 8423 01602 //// +144 //// 161046

Tropical Storm Chantal Discussion Number 4 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL032025 1100 AM EDT Sat Jul 05 2025 Satellite images suggest that Chantal has been organizing and gaining strength. The storm is still asymmetric though, with most of the associated showers and thunderstorms located near and to the east of the center. The Air Force Hurricane Hunters are currently investigating the system and have found that the pressure has dropped to 1007 mb. The plane has yet to sample the area of strong thunderstorms, where the highest winds are likely occurring. The initial intensity is set at 35 kt for now. The outer rainbands are beginning to reach portions of South and North Carolina, and conditions along the coast within the watch and warning areas are expected to continue to deteriorate throughout the day. Chantal has barely moved since last night, but a motion to the north-northwest is expected to begin soon. The main steering features appear to be a mid- to upper-level low over the Gulf and a narrow mid-level ridge across the mid-Atlantic region. The flow between these features should cause Chantal to move inland over South Carolina Sunday morning. It should be noted that center reformations are possible, which could cause some erratic motion. After landfall, a turn to the northeast is expected when the storm moves on the western side of the ridge. The NHC track forecast lies close to the previous one, and the latest HCCA and Google Deep Mind solutions. Additional strengthening seems likely in the short term as Chantal is expected to remain over warm water and move into a lower wind shear environment. In addition, the shear direction is expected to shift from southwesterly to southerly, which is more conducive for strengthening. The NHC intensity forecast is a little higher than the previous one, and in line with the latest HMON, HAFS-A, and HAFS-B guidance. After landfall, steady weakening is expected until the system dissipates in 48 to 60 hours. Chantal is expected to remain a lopsided system during the next day or so. Therefore, the strongest winds are anticipated to occur to the right of the landfall location. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 05/1500Z 31.1N 78.7W 35 KT 40 MPH 12H 06/0000Z 31.8N 79.0W 45 KT 50 MPH 24H 06/1200Z 33.1N 79.3W 45 KT 50 MPH...INLAND 36H 07/0000Z 34.6N 79.2W 30 KT 35 MPH...INLAND 48H 07/1200Z 35.8N 78.0W 30 KT 35 MPH...POST-TROP/INLAND 60H 08/0000Z...DISSIPATED $$ Forecaster Cangialosi/Konarik

...TROPICAL STORM WARNING EXTENDED NORTHWARD IN NORTH CAROLINA... 11:00 AM EDT Sat Jul 05 Location: 31.1°N 78.7°W Moving: N at 1 mph Min pressure: 1007 mb Max sustained: 40 mph

Looks like 1-3" of rain fell across areas of N MN (much of the state actually). Rain started late last night here with 0.46" (7am) and still raining. Pleasant wx on tap after this front leaves for the next week.

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The heliport gets sea breezes off the NY Harbor. So it’s not really representative of the areas of NYC away from the shore. I would have them decommission the site by the castle since the park conservancy would never allow any of those trees to be cut down. The one thing I learned over the years is that people love their trees. Back on the South Shore were I used to live there were big disputes which emerged when some trees were going to be removed from my community. Several trees were damaged and were at a risk of falling on some of the houses. I was glad to have them removed. But some residents tried to block the tree removal guys from doing their job. As several fallen weak trees caused property damage prior to the crews arrival. So if NYC every tried to remove those trees around the ASOS, their would be a big protest. I would give the NYC mesonet the opportunity to pick a spot Central Park in a clearing to install a new site like below. So no trees would have to be disturbed.

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75/59, it's a beaut Clark

Yeah thats why I said we might have days of rain starting Tuesday, now it looks like it might begin Monday =\

Thats how the roof at my other property was destroyed by falling oak trees, they don't have a deep root system and are vulnerable to microbursts and other strong wind events.

absolutely wild Chris.... and after the historic heatwave we had in July 1977.

This is why I advocate for the heliport (KJRB peaked at 105 in June). Besides the heliport, we can use rooftop stations. They would definitely be hotter than the shaded areas you speak of.

With the exception of June, this is why our heatwaves are weaker and do not last as long as they did in the 90s and the decades before then.

A grassy clearing in Central Park like the Great Lawn is among of the warmest parts of Manhattan Island and NYC. It’s one of the few spots that gets full sun during the summer. As the midtown streets are often in the shade with the increase in the ultra tall skyscrapers. Plus Central Park has an unusual amount of exposed bedrock which really heats up. This is why Central Park would often have similar temperatures as Newark and sometimes warmer during the summer from the 1930s to around 1980.

nice, EWR and JFK hotter than everyone else and also low humidity and deep blue skies....

Lots of sites in the Northeast had their coldest August morning during the last few days of that month in 1965. Also, MWN had a couple inches of snow.

Mighty hot July 1999 just getting started on this date.... Records:Highs:EWR: 103 (1999)NYC: 101 (1999)LGA: 100 (1999)JFK: 102 (1999)New Brnswck: 100 (1999) This day ranks with the hottest days ever in our area, when all official reporting stations recorded record highs in the triple digits on the same date!

I just came here to post about it. Horrific.

If you go by decades rather than 30 year periods, our number of 90 degree days peaked during the 90s. You can run the numbers for all the locations you mentioned and also JFK. We had multiple historically hot summers during the 90s (91,93,95,99) and we have not had that kind of sustained heat since then (with the exception of 2010.)

Horrible, horrible situation in Texas.

I am getting sick and tired of this shyte right now. It's pouring again. We are in the process of getting Kerr Countied today. I have to go out in this crap to take Ashley B to St David's to her work this morning! Low water crossings today are all like New Orleans in fracking Katrina. I can't even believe this malarkey about being warned for possibly ten more inches today. This is south central Texas not the southeastern Carolinas with Chantal.

But we should have local cooling breezes because New York City exists on islands (besides The Bronx of course.) I just don't believe that a park could ever be representative of urban conditions and the equipment should NEVER have been in a park to begin with. We have a heliport in lower Manhattan, that's where it should be. LGA is also hotter than most of the area because of how densely packed that region is and its overnight lows are always elevated compared to both JFK and Central Park. For Manhattan urban area purposes the equipment in Central Park needs to be taken out of the park and relocated to the heliport.