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This also what I am alluding to when I tell folks to not obsess over the absolute PDO value, as it's the trend that is more important.

This composite looks like a lot of my preliminary stuff. Extratropical Pacific, Polar and EMI composites.

It's also in a very low lying valley. Just perfect radiational cooling conditions there. https://www.njweather.org/station/79

Well, it is getting more difficult to get very cold winters in an absolute sense (against shifting climo is different)....that said, it's not as pronounced where you live as it is in the east coast.

totally bro rock on

I assume that was aimed towards me but I have no idea what that means. "your winters" ?? um ok my winters? I dont wish cast "Torch" tiger "

Maestro works PR for the Os and the Ravens...

Steep decline. Just like your winters

Still have 1 or 2 here. The males left the week before Labor day. I'm sure they'll be gone by next week.

so now mets in this sub post 300 hr surface anomaly maps to prove their points?

so out.

All you do is saw logs and copy bad tweets . Time to think about a change ?

Some of us enjoy both very much. Pigeon holing peeps is so out.

Walpack at 36 is wild to me. Im 50 miles East and woke up to a balmy 55. The woods are a cold, cold place.

summer is over. 70's and 80's deep into Septorcher is a real treat. Like how the cold fiends lust over teens and 20's in March/ April

76 today.

hoping it cools off Novie-December, early snows, then torch the winter

It's kind of amazing after the beat down they took in August and early September they're back for more. What's that saying? Gluttons for punishment?

He forecast '90s for the past weekend. Consider the source.

I think ORH has pointed out that the bright reds make people think it is all warm and juicy...but in reality, it is still friggin cold water.

No you're missing mine. I AGREE with your point about Harbaugh ultimately making to conservative of a decision--as has been his pattern. That is not in question. And yes, there was no input from Lamar because he took himself off the field. He said if he had stayed on the field he woulda told everybody they're going forward (and as before Harbaugh would've gone with that). But you basically accusing Lamar of lying is wild--hard to take that part of your argument seriously. You know he'd never come off the field in that situation unless he was having legit discomfort. And a 30 second timeout would not have fixed that.

The actual global pattern for June-August 2025 looks a lot like a blend of 2013, 2018, 2022, 2024 to me, with -2007 in as a confirming anti log (it had low heights south of Alaska as an example). The blend with -2007 also has a similar look to Sept 2025 so far in the US. The temp blend with 2007 supports the West getting pretty cold in Fall, then it spreads East, peaks in December, and retreats until February when it returns for the Plains. Pretty boiler plate. I don't fully buy it. But it does support some pretty cold periods in the Southwest, which is increasingly likely the longer the hurricane season stays dead (now looks likely until Sept 16). The four main years average out to a slightly inactive hurricane season, with cold showing locally in mid-Nov to mid-Jan (2013), mid Dec-mid Jan (2018-19), early and late in 2022-23 (Nov, Feb-Apr 7), and January 2025.

75-80 as we extend beach season more and more.

Yeah this looks warm for the time of year.