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They just canceled for today.

Temp peaked out at 40 around midnight but is now down to 29. Frigid day on tap.

Seems safe now that above normal temps are coming starting late next week and into Xmas week. But with lots of cold air in Canada, we certainly could have a cold couple days behind any cold fronts.

New thread jinx and the shitters full.

Qshmegma

If NAM isn’t super amped at 12z it’s a flag IMO

I just want my one year subscription to the jelly of the month club. It’s the gift that keeps on giving.

JFC the model flipped 3 times yesterday for what it showed on Xmas. I trust it as much as i trust the Commanders defense to stop my kids high school offense. Could it be 70s? Sure. Could it be 33 and rain? Sure But until the pattern sets for any length of time I'll dust off the oldie but goodie "we just won't know"

Records: Highs: EWR: 69 (2021) NYC: 66 (2021) LGA: 67 (2021) JFK: 67 (1971) Lows: EWR: 11 (1977) NYC: 6 (1880) LGA: 14 (1988) JFK: 13 (1988) Historical: 1862: As the Battle of Fredericksburg commenced, the Union troops were aided by fog in building of pontoon bridges and moving troops into position. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) 1864: High winds move the newly erected Capitol Dome. 1905: The highest temperature ever recorded in South America was recorded at Rivadavia, Argentina hit 120 °F. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) 1932 - Very cold weather prevailed along the West Coast. San Francisco received 0.8 inch of snow, and at the airport the temperature dipped to 20 degrees. At Sacramento CA, the mercury dipped to 17 degrees to establish an all-time record low for that location. Morning lows were below freezing from the 9th to the 15th at Sacramento, and the high on the 11th was just 34 degrees. The cold wave dealt severe damage to truck crops and orange groves in the Sacramento Valley. (David Ludlum) (The Weather Channel) 1949: A tornado causing F2 damage moved through Marion County, Missouri. Damage totaled $200,000 in a 20-block area of Hannibal with a few homes completely unroofed. 12 people were injured along the tornado's path. In central Missouri, one of the worst ice storms of the century struck leaving over 2 inches of ice in some locations. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) 1949: A tornado causing F2 damage moved through Marion County, Missouri. Damage totaled $200,000 in a 20-block area of Hannibal with a few homes completely unroofed. 12 people were injured along the tornado's path. In central Missouri, one of the worst ice storms of the century struck leaving over 2 inches of ice in some locations. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) 1972: A strong upper level trough remained in pace from the Rockies to the West Coast that brought extreme record low temperatures for the date including: Winnemucca, NV: -33 °F, Elko, NV: -28 °F, Pocatello, ID: -26 °F (broke previous record by 16 degrees), Lander, WY: -26 °F, Ely, NV: -24 °F, Boise, ID: -22 °F (broke previous record by 18 degrees), Sheridan, WY: -20 °F, Burns, OR: -19 °F, Moline, IL: -18 °F, Rockford, IL: -18 °F, Green Bay, WI: -17 °F, Madison, WI: -17 °F, Reno, NV: -15 °F, Minneapolis, MN: -14 °F, Dubuque, IA: -13 °F, Rapid City, SD: -13 °F, Salt Lake City, UT: -11 °F, Milwaukee, WI: -10 °F, Alpena, MI: -8 °F, Chicago, IL: -5 °F, Fresno, CA: 25 °F-Tied, San Francisco Airport, CA: 26 °F, Santa Maria, CA: 26 °F-Tied, Long Beach, CA: 34 °F-Tied and Downtown Los Angeles, CA: 35 °F. The high temperature at Victorville, CA was 32 °F, tying their lowest high temperature on record with 1/30/1957 and 12/15/1957. Upper level high pressure off the southeast coast brought record highs to a few locations including: Charleston, SC: 83 °F, Macon, GA: 82 °F and Columbus, GA: 78 °F. (Ref. Wilson - Additional Temperatures Listed On This Link) 1979: Temperature dropped in Roseville, MN from 48 degrees at 2 pm to zero by dawn. (Ref. AccWeather Weather History) 1983: Nine cars fell through the ice at the same time on Buffalo Lake, MN in central Minnesota. There was only 5 to 6 inches of ice on the lake. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) 1985: Phoenix, AZ recorded their first measurable snow since 1939. (Ref. AccWeather Weather History) 1987 - Low pressure over southwestern Ontario, Canada, brought snow and gusty winds to the North Central U.S. Winds gusted to 62 mph at Riverton WY. Snow and high winds in eastern North Dakota reduced visibilities to less than one hundred feet at times. Warm weather prevailed across the Southern Plains Region. Half a dozen cities reported record high temperatures for the date, including Del Rio TX with a reading of 89 degrees. Laredo TX and Kingsville TX tied for honors as hot spot in the nation with afternoon highs of 92 degrees. (The National Weather Summary) 1988 - Arctic cold invaded the central and eastern U.S. Sault Ste Marie MI reported a record low of 14 degrees below zero, and International Falls MN was the cold spot in the nation with a low of 25 degrees below zero. Temperatures remained below zero all day over parts of eastern Upper Michigan and northern New England. (The National Weather Summary) 1989 - Strong Santa Ana winds developed across southern California and parts of central California. Winds in Kern County of central California gusted to 100 mph near Grapevine. The high winds reduced visibilities to near zero in the desert areas, closing major interstate highways east of Ontario CA. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary) 1990: Dense fog formed along the Hiwassee River near Calhoun, TN, dropping the visibility along a 3-mile stretch of I-75 to zero at times. 12 people were killed in a massive 83 vehicle pile-up. (Ref. AccWeather Weather History) 1992:A complex storm system moved eastward from the Gulf Coast of Texas to eastern Georgia on December 9 and 10th. In the next 24 hours, the low-pressure system moved to the Chesapeake Bay and rapidly intensified. This system produced gale force winds with gusts exceeding hurricane force affected not only the Mid-Atlantic coastline but also as far southwest as the southern Appalachians where trees were downed and roofs damaged. This storm also produced 20 to 30-foot waves in Massachusetts on December 12 and 13th. Precipitation amounts varied considerably. Rainfall amounts of 8 inches occurred in southeastern Massachusetts, while several areas in New York, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, and Maryland recorded more than 30 inches of snow. Precipitation ended during the evening hours on the 12th. Ten deaths resulted from the storm with insured losses totaling near $850 million and non-insured losses near $2 billion. 1995: Monster storm hits the Pacific Coast. 1 1/2 million without power from California to Washington and 6 people killed. (Ref. AccWeather Weather History) 2000: A blizzard struck areas of the Midwest, Missouri Valley into Michigan. Strong winds sustained at 20 to 40 mph with gusts up to 50 mph created blizzard and near whiteout conditions, thunder and lightning and dangerous wind chills as low as -40 °F. Snowfall totals generally ranged from 6 to 16 inches with drifts several feet high in some areas. 10 to 15 inches occurred in Cook and DuPage Counties of the Chicago area, with 6 to 10 inches as far south as central Illinois. Freezing rain and sleet mixed in further south keeping accumulations down. 8 to 11 inches of snow fell across southwestern Missouri with amounts 12 to 14 inches reported from Joplin through Springfield to Joplin, MO. Areas near West Plains, MO received a mixture of snow and sleet keeping accumulations down to 4 to 8 inches. Some snowfall totals included: Cassopolis, IN: 16 inches, Elkhart, Goshen, IN: 14 inches, Niles, St. Joseph & South Bend, IN: 12 inches, O’Hare Airport in Chicago, IL: 9.5 inches, Rockford, IL: 8.3 inches, Oelwein, IA: 8 inches, Muscoda, WI: 7.5 inches, Cuba City, WI: 7 inches and Mt. Sterling, WI: 7 inches The 14.5 inches of snow that fell at Lansing, MI is the heaviest on record for any December day. The 14.2 at Grand Rapids, MI is also a record for any day in December and contributed to December 2000 being the snowiest month ever recorded at those locations. 19 people in the Chicago area died while shoveling snow, from heart failure or hypothermia. (Ref. Wilson Wx. - Additional Information) 2008 - A rare snowstorm swept across parts of south Louisiana and Mississippi, blanketing the area with snow. Nearly 8 inches of snow fell over parts of Louisiana. These conditions caused schools and bridges to close and left thousands of residents without power (Associated Press). (NCDC) 2010 - The "Pineapple Express" - a meteorological event where southwest winds bring warm, moist air to the U.S. West Coast - produced record rainfall to the Pacific Northwest during December 11th-12th. Seattle experienced record daily rainfall two days in a row. The Seattle-Tacoma International Airport recorded 1.42 inches of rain on the 11th, breaking the old daily record of 1.32 inches set in 1955. The next day, 2.19 inches fell, breaking the daily record of 1.70 inches set in 1966. The Stillaguamish River in western Washington state reached 21.06 feet at Arlington, tying the record set in November 2006. Flood stage for the river is 14 feet. The storm system also brought record warmth to the area. On December 14th, the temperature at Seattle-Tacoma International Airport reached 57, breaking the old daily record of 55 set in 2004. (NCDC)

This is the white Christmas so enjoy it weenies. I’m going to put some music on, bake cookies, wrap presents, put a fire in the fireplace, watch my favorite football team piss down their legs again, and we’ll have the hap hap happiest Christmas since bing crosby tap danced with Danny fucking Kaye.

That shit makes me want to puke. I keep talking to myself in the mirror “it’s still two weeks it’s gonna be ok”.

Verbatim based on those temperature anomaly maps New York City is pretty much right around average on December 26, while the rest of the country is torching. The craziest statistic is what you just mentioned above is where places down south that are running up to 8° below normal this month could finish close to average because much of the country will be in spring like warmth during Christmas week. Reminds me a lot of December 2022 colder than normal month overall a big-time arctic freeze a few big storms across the north US and then after Christmas, we torched right through right through New Year’s and through the rest of January.

qcomega is a more sinister and abbreviated version of Torch Tiger, with the troll knob turned up to 11.

I vehemently disagree.

Done

33 / 13 with 0.12 in the bucket yesterday. Cold overall the next 6 days, peaking Mon/Tue. Snow squall / shower/light snow overnight Sat into Sun likely a coating to 2/3 inches with some areas a bit more. Moderation by the 18th and into Christmas week to and above normal. Beyond the 25th forecasts maintain very cold just to the north so looking to finish the the last week leading to new years at or below normal after the 18-25 warmup.

The 6z Euro still being an advisory event and better than 0z is enough for me to be curious at 12z. The GFS might be closer to right in the end but it's not over, yet.

Well here we are. Can I just at least get 1” while DC gets 4”? We will see.

Definitely

The models are really not backing down with the warmth after the 20th. Not enough to offset the cold we’ve had so far but yikes that’s a pretty warm Christmas week

I'd take it. hopefully we can get a bump north

I agree. Btw this event reminds me of one of the events we had in 2015.. I think it was the Valentine’s Day snow squalls. that event was modeled as snow showers right up until the short range models started picking up on squall lines and coastal development. I remember some places in Hartford county seeing 4-6 inches in a very short period of time. the official Bwi total was 2.5 inches. here is a link to foots forecast for that storm. I couldn’t find much on it.. others than this https://www.facebook.com/ffcentralmaryland/photos/730-am-214-something-wicked-this-way-comes-and-we-hope-you-are-well-aware-of-the/10152687024933857/?http_ref=eyJ0cyI6MTc2NTQ1Nzk1ODAwMCwiciI6Imh0dHBzOlwvXC93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbVwvIn0%3D

I’d vote for a thread for Sunday

Ended up with 3.1" overnight. Certainly a beautiful, frosty morning (temp now is 19.8, which is the calendar day's low so far) but never did we really experience blizzard conditions. The highlight, of course, tho was the loud thunder during the "peak" last evening. If you want to enjoy really good conditions at the ski resorts, and they are currently excellent, better do it in the next week. Oy vey, don't like what's coming.