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Midwest/GL/OV/ON Snowfall Totals to Date

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Does anyone know whether CVG, DAY, or CMH are in the top ten? I'm sure at least CVG is -- they've had almost 17 inches this month. I can't find that info on the ILN website, although I thought they used to have it available.

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[quote name='Trent' timestamp='1293473015' post='198012']
Easy to see that Michigan/Central/Eastern Lakes have been the screw zone this winter. Toss in W MO and DC for good measure too.
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Not all of the eastern Lakes region is below normal -- most areas are above normal. CLE and ERI are below, but CAK, YNG, PIT, BUF, ROC, and SYR are all above to much above.

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[quote name='OHSnow' timestamp='1293478011' post='198310']
Not all of the eastern Lakes region is below normal -- most areas are above normal. CLE and ERI are below, but CAK, YNG, PIT, BUF, ROC, and SYR are all above to much above.
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A vast majority of the central eastern lakes from Milwaukee, all of lower and eastern upper Michigan, the non snow belts of Ontario, east to BUF and along Lake Erie down to ERI, CLE, and TOL are below normal. Circle it on a map and it's a good chunk of real estate best described as central/eastern lakes.

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[quote name='Trent' timestamp='1293478608' post='198337']
A vast majority of the central eastern lakes from Milwaukee, all of lower and eastern upper Michigan, the non snow belts of Ontario, east to BUF and along Lake Erie down to ERI, CLE, and TOL are below normal. Circle it on a map and it's a good chunk of real estate best described as central/eastern lakes.
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Your sig makes me laugh. If it wasn't for LES, I'd be at about 1.2 or 1.3" for the season. The dearth of synoptic snow has been mind boggling. It approaches Dec 2006 levels of futility, but that month was uber warm at least.

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[quote name='Organizing Low' timestamp='1293479890' post='198409']
only 13 inches of snow in ottawa so far, about 30% of normal





life under the block


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Pearson's at 2.8", which off the top of my head, is roughly about 20% of normal. No snow in sight for at least 10 days. Don Sutherland is a gifted prognosticator, but I'm not buying his near normal snowfall for Toronto in January. He adduced similar compelling evidence for March 2010 and it translated into diddly- squat.

To import a DT phrase, Toronto is Canada's snow anus.

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[quote name='OHSnow' timestamp='1293477900' post='198301']
Does anyone know whether CVG, DAY, or CMH are in the top ten? I'm sure at least CVG is -- they've had almost 17 inches this month. I can't find that info on the ILN website, although I thought they used to have it available.
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CVG has to be in the top 10, but I have yet to find any info about that from ILN's website either. Still searching...

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[quote name='snowstormcanuck' timestamp='1293480373' post='198435']
Pearson's at 2.8", which off the top of my head, is roughly about 20% of normal. No snow in sight for at least 10 days. Don Sutherland is a gifted prognosticator, but I'm not buying his near normal snowfall for Toronto in January. He adduced similar compelling evidence for March 2010 and it translated into diddly- squat.

To import a DT phrase, Toronto is Canada's snow anus.
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oh there's no disputing that toronto is the snow anus :lol:

i thought we were getting payback for 07-08. but considering that winter all but disappeared around these part since the feb 09 Nonstorm debacle......thats going on basically 2 years now.

so today it dawned on me....i think we are past payback, and now we are owed some.


hard times for sure

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[quote name='Organizing Low' timestamp='1293487850' post='198791']
oh there's no disputing that toronto is the snow anus :lol:

i thought we were getting payback for 07-08. but considering that winter all but disappeared around these part since the feb 09 Nonstorm debacle......thats going on basically 2 years now.

so today it dawned on me....i think we are past payback, and now we are owed some.


hard times for sure
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I can't speak for you guys up there in Ottawa Valley, but for me, 07/08 and 08/09 were payback for 2 consecutive lackluster winters that preceded them (05-06/06-07). And as I posted either earlier in this thread, or in another one, since 1993-94 Toronto is running a 72.5" snowfall deficit. And if you add in the "snowless '80s", that deficit is probably even bigger. So mother nature, even taking into account 07/08 and 08/09, is still deeply indebted to the snow lovers of the big smoke.

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[quote name='snowstormcanuck' timestamp='1293498276' post='199168']
I can't speak for you guys up there in Ottawa Valley, but for me, [b]07/08 and 08/09 were payback for 2 consecutive lackluster winters that preceded them (05-06/06-07).[/b] And as I posted either earlier in this thread, or in another one, since 1993-94 Toronto is running a 72.5" snowfall deficit. And if you add in the "snowless '80s", that deficit is probably even bigger. So mother nature, even taking into account 07/08 and 08/09, is still deeply indebted to the snow lovers of the big smoke.
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not sure, as i was in nyc at the time.


2007-08 was a great welcome home present :snowman:

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Snowfall totals/departures through January 2, 2010
*Ontario sites may be a day or two late
*Totals and departures since July 1, 2010


APX - Gaylord
Alpena MI (APN): 23.5" [color="#FF0000"](-6.4")[/color]
Houghton Lake MI (HTL): 18.9" [color="#FF0000"](-7.6")[/color]

ARX - La Crosse
La Crosse WI (LSE): 32.4" [color="#006400"](+17.4")[/color]
Rochester MN (RST): 42.6" [color="#006400"](+22.1")[/color]

CLE - Cleveland
Cleveland OH (CLE): 12.7" [color="#FF0000"](-6.9")[/color]
Toledo OH (TOL): 6.0" [color="#FF0000"](-5.7")[/color]

DLH - Duluth
Duluth MN (DLH): 53.9" [color="#006400"](+20.9")[/color]
International Falls MN (INL): 50.5" [color="#006400"](+21.1")[/color]

DMX - Des Moines
Des Moines IA (DSM): 9.8" [color="#FF0000"](-3.2")[/color]
Waterloo IA (ALO): 24.7" [color="#006400"](+11.9")[/color]

DTX - Detroit
Detroit MI (DTW): 9.3" [color="#FF0000"](-5.6")[/color]
Flint MI (FNT): 12.4" [color="#FF0000"](-4.0")[/color]

DVN (Quad Cities)
Dubuque IA (DBQ): 27.5" [color="#006400"](+11.6")[/color]
Moline IL (MLI): 17.3" [color="#006400"](+5.1")[/color]

EAX - Kansas City/Pleasant Hill
Kansas City MO (MCI): 2.9" [color="#FF0000"](-3.2")[/color]
St. Joseph MO (STJ): 2.5" [color="#FF0000"](-1.7")[/color]

FSD - Sioux Falls
Sioux City IA (SUX): 10.4" [color="#FF0000"](-2.0")[/color]
Sioux Falls SD (FSD): 19.0" [color="#006400"](+2.9")[/color]

GRB - Green Bay
Green Bay WI (GRB): 22.5" [color="#006400"](+3.3")[/color]
Wausau WI (AUW): 24.6" [color="#006400"](+2.0")[/color]

GRR - Grand Rapids
Grand Rapids MI (GRR): 12.7" [color="#FF0000"](-15.8")[/color]
Lansing MI (LAN): 8.7" [color="#FF0000"](-11.0")[/color]

ILN - Wilmington
Cincinnati OH (CVG): 16.8" [color="#006400"](+11.0")[/color]
Columbus OH (CMH): 7.3" [color="#FF0000"](-0.1")[/color]

ILX - Central Illinois
Peoria IL (PIA): 19.2" [color="#006400"](+10.1")[/color]
Springfield IL (SPI): 7.9" [color="#FF0000"](-0.1")[/color]

IND - Indianapolis
Indianapolis IN (IND): 16.6" [color="#006400"](+7.9")[/color]
Lafayette IN (TIM): 22.0"

IWX - Northern Indiana
Fort Wayne IN (FWA): 10.9" [color="#FF0000"](-1.5")[/color]
South Bend IN (SBN): 24.9" [color="#FF0000"](-3.9")[/color]

JKL - Jackson
Jackson KY (JKL): 18.5"

LMK - Louisville
Lexington KY (LEX): 12.8" [color="#006400"](+10.0")[/color]
Louisville KY (SDF): 6.3" [color="#006400"](+3.4")[/color]

LOT - Chicago
Chicago IL (ORD): 16.2" [color="#006400"](+4.6")[/color]
Rockford IL (RFD): 19.2" [color="#006400"](+4.9")[/color]

LSX - St. Louis
Columbia MO (COU): 8.4" [color="#006400"](+1.6")[/color]
St. Louis MO (STL): 8.1" [color="#006400"](+1.3")[/color]

MKX - Milwaukee/Sullivan
Madison WI (MSN): 20.8" [color="#006400"](+2.1")[/color]
Milwaukee WI (MKE): 8.3" [color="#FF0000"](-8.5")[/color]

MPX - Twin Cities
Minneapolis MN (MSP): 43.5" [color="#006400"](+22.1")[/color]
St. Cloud MN (STC): 21.9" [color="#006400"](+3.0")[/color]

MQT - Marquette
Marquette MI (MQT): 65.9" [color="#FF0000"](-3.8")[/color]
Sault Ste. Marie MI (ANJ): 28.0" [color="#FF0000"](-29.9")[/color]

PAH - Paducah
Evansville IN (EVV): 6.6" [color="#006400"](+2.7")[/color]
Paducah KY (PAH): 5.6" [color="#006400"](+3.7")[/color]

SGF - Springfield
Joplin MO (JLN): T
Springfield MO (SGF): 1.0"

Ontario - Canada
Ottawa ON (YOW): 12.9"
Toronto ON (Downtown): 5.2"
Toronto ON (YYZ): 2.8"

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[quote name='Chicago WX' timestamp='1293480925' post='198469']
CVG has to be in the top 10, but I have yet to find any info about that from ILN's website either. Still searching...
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CVG finished the month with 16.6" of snow. There are questions as to how that ranks for the snowiest December. I've spent most of 2010 ranking climate data for Cincinnati going all the way back to 1858. So according to my records, December 2010 ranks 2nd for the snowiest. However, ILN issued a monthly summary for CVG and at the bottom of the summary it ranks CVG as having the 4th snowiest Dec. In that summary it says records are from 1869-2010. I local met in town posted on facebook snowfall amounts going back to the 1840's as being part of the ranking, which would put 2010 at #4, but the question is, are the records from the 1840s official data or not.

I've been communicating with one of the guys at ILN about snowfall on December 16. They said Cincy had a record snowfall for the date, and I've questioned it. I have the snowfall record being in 1883 for that date, which also happens to be the year of the snowiest December on record (17.5") They told me that they didn't have snowfall records beyond 1890.

So to make the long story short, Cincinnati was definitely in the top 5 for the snowiest Dec on record. The question remains, was it #2 or #4.

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[quote name='Chicago WX' timestamp='1294084254' post='216546']
Snowfall totals/departures through January 2, 2010
*Ontario sites may be a day or two late
*Totals and departures since July 1, 2010


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wow on cincy pwning grand rapids in snowfall to date....beating them by 4" so far. No wonder Harry's about to go postal. What a miserably strange season so far.

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[quote name='cincywxpro' timestamp='1294093290' post='217086']
CVG finished the month with 16.6" of snow. There are questions as to how that ranks for the snowiest December. I've spent most of 2010 ranking climate data for Cincinnati going all the way back to 1858. So according to my records, December 2010 ranks 2nd for the snowiest. However, ILN issued a monthly summary for CVG and at the bottom of the summary it ranks CVG as having the 4th snowiest Dec. In that summary it says records are from 1869-2010. I local met in town posted on facebook snowfall amounts going back to the 1840's as being part of the ranking, which would put 2010 at #4, but the question is, are the records from the 1840s official data or not.

I've been communicating with one of the guys at ILN about snowfall on December 16. They said Cincy had a record snowfall for the date, and I've questioned it. I have the snowfall record being in 1883 for that date, which also happens to be the year of the snowiest December on record (17.5") They told me that they didn't have snowfall records beyond 1890.

So to make the long story short, Cincinnati was definitely in the top 5 for the snowiest Dec on record. The question remains, was it #2 or #4.
[/quote]

Thanks for the info. I was wondering where CVG may have ended up.

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[quote name='Chicago WX' timestamp='1294084254' post='216546']
Snowfall totals/departures through January 2, 2010
*Ontario sites may be a day or two late
*Totals and departures since July 1, 2010


APX - Gaylord
Alpena MI (APN): 23.5" [color="#FF0000"](-6.4")[/color]
Houghton Lake MI (HTL): 18.9" [color="#FF0000"](-7.6")[/color]

ARX - La Crosse
La Crosse WI (LSE): 32.4" [color="#006400"](+17.4")[/color]
Rochester MN (RST): 42.6" [color="#006400"](+22.1")[/color]

CLE - Cleveland
Cleveland OH (CLE): 12.7" [color="#FF0000"](-6.9")[/color]
Toledo OH (TOL): 6.0" [color="#FF0000"](-5.7")[/color]

DLH - Duluth
Duluth MN (DLH): 53.9" [color="#006400"](+20.9")[/color]
International Falls MN (INL): 50.5" [color="#006400"](+21.1")[/color]

DMX - Des Moines
Des Moines IA (DSM): 9.8" [color="#FF0000"](-3.2")[/color]
Waterloo IA (ALO): 24.7" [color="#006400"](+11.9")[/color]

DTX - Detroit
Detroit MI (DTW): 9.3" [color="#FF0000"](-5.6")[/color]
Flint MI (FNT): 12.4" [color="#FF0000"](-4.0")[/color]

DVN (Quad Cities)
Dubuque IA (DBQ): 27.5" [color="#006400"](+11.6")[/color]
Moline IL (MLI): 17.3" [color="#006400"](+5.1")[/color]

EAX - Kansas City/Pleasant Hill
Kansas City MO (MCI): 2.9" [color="#FF0000"](-3.2")[/color]
St. Joseph MO (STJ): 2.5" [color="#FF0000"](-1.7")[/color]

FSD - Sioux Falls
Sioux City IA (SUX): 10.4" [color="#FF0000"](-2.0")[/color]
Sioux Falls SD (FSD): 19.0" [color="#006400"](+2.9")[/color]

GRB - Green Bay
Green Bay WI (GRB): 22.5" [color="#006400"](+3.3")[/color]
Wausau WI (AUW): 24.6" [color="#006400"](+2.0")[/color]

GRR - Grand Rapids
Grand Rapids MI (GRR): 12.7" [color="#FF0000"](-15.8")[/color]
Lansing MI (LAN): 8.7" [color="#FF0000"](-11.0")[/color]

ILN - Wilmington
Cincinnati OH (CVG): 16.8" [color="#006400"](+11.0")[/color]
Columbus OH (CMH): 7.3" [color="#FF0000"](-0.1")[/color]

ILX - Central Illinois
Peoria IL (PIA): 19.2" [color="#006400"](+10.1")[/color]
Springfield IL (SPI): 7.9" [color="#FF0000"](-0.1")[/color]

IND - Indianapolis
Indianapolis IN (IND): 16.6" [color="#006400"](+7.9")[/color]
Lafayette IN (TIM): 22.0"

IWX - Northern Indiana
Fort Wayne IN (FWA): 10.9" [color="#FF0000"](-1.5")[/color]
South Bend IN (SBN): 24.9" [color="#FF0000"](-3.9")[/color]

JKL - Jackson
Jackson KY (JKL): 18.5"

LMK - Louisville
Lexington KY (LEX): 12.8" [color="#006400"](+10.0")[/color]
Louisville KY (SDF): 6.3" [color="#006400"](+3.4")[/color]

LOT - Chicago
Chicago IL (ORD): 16.2" [color="#006400"](+4.6")[/color]
Rockford IL (RFD): 19.2" [color="#006400"](+4.9")[/color]

LSX - St. Louis
Columbia MO (COU): 8.4" [color="#006400"](+1.6")[/color]
St. Louis MO (STL): 8.1" [color="#006400"](+1.3")[/color]

MKX - Milwaukee/Sullivan
Madison WI (MSN): 20.8" [color="#006400"](+2.1")[/color]
Milwaukee WI (MKE): 8.3" [color="#FF0000"](-8.5")[/color]

MPX - Twin Cities
Minneapolis MN (MSP): 43.5" [color="#006400"](+22.1")[/color]
St. Cloud MN (STC): 21.9" [color="#006400"](+3.0")[/color]

MQT - Marquette
Marquette MI (MQT): 65.9" [color="#FF0000"](-3.8")[/color]
Sault Ste. Marie MI (ANJ): 28.0" [color="#FF0000"](-29.9")[/color]

PAH - Paducah
Evansville IN (EVV): 6.6" [color="#006400"](+2.7")[/color]
Paducah KY (PAH): 5.6" [color="#006400"](+3.7")[/color]

SGF - Springfield
Joplin MO (JLN): T
Springfield MO (SGF): 1.0"

Ontario - Canada
Ottawa ON (YOW): 12.9"
Toronto ON (Downtown): 5.2"
Toronto ON (YYZ): 2.8"
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Take out the freak storm Northern Plains blizzard and a lot of those locations in MN would be near normal.

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Wow. Look how much snow they've gotten in Germany.

[img]http://www.standeyo.com/NEWS/10_Pics_of_Day/10_Pics_of_Day_pics/101231.GER.snow.jpg[/img]

[color=#9FA7B0][font=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, Swiss, SunSans-Regular][size=2][b]ORIGINAL CAPTION[/b]: Europe hit with coldest December in 100 years; snow cancels 1,000 flights in Germany when it saw more snow than in the past 100 years with the highest snow depth since 1893. Two employees of the Frankfurt international airport walk along a passageway made by thousand of tons of snow piled up near the runway of the airport in Frankfurt, Germany, Dec. 30, 2010. (Boris Roessler / EPA)[/size][/font][/color]

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[b]Snowfall totals/departures through January 9, 2010[/b]
*Ontario sites may be a day or two late
*Totals and departures since July 1, 2010

Departure leaders through 1/9
:) South Bend IN (SBN): 64.3" [color="#006400"](+30.0")[/color]
:( Sault Ste. Marie MI (ANJ): 33.1" [color="#FF0000"](-33.5")[/color]


APX - Gaylord
Alpena MI (APN): 29.6" [color="#FF0000"](-5.3")[/color]
Houghton Lake MI (HTL): 22.8" [color="#FF0000"](-7.9")[/color]

ARX - La Crosse
La Crosse WI (LSE): 34.0" [color="#006400"](+16.2")[/color]
Rochester MN (RST): 44.4" [color="#006400"](+21.1")[/color]

CLE - Cleveland
Cleveland OH (CLE): 20.3" [color="#FF0000"](-2.8")[/color]
Toledo OH (TOL): 9.2" [color="#FF0000"](-4.6")[/color]

DLH - Duluth
Duluth MN (DLH): 55.1" [color="#006400"](+17.8")[/color]
International Falls MN (INL): 52.2" [color="#006400"](+19.3")[/color]

DMX - Des Moines
Des Moines IA (DSM): 10.8" [color="#FF0000"](-4.0")[/color]
Waterloo IA (ALO): 25.1" [color="#006400"](+10.9")[/color]

DTX - Detroit
Detroit MI (DTW): 12.9" [color="#FF0000"](-4.8")[/color]
Flint MI (FNT): 16.8" [color="#FF0000"](-3.0")[/color]

DVN (Quad Cities)
Dubuque IA (DBQ): 27.6" [color="#006400"](+8.9")[/color]
Moline IL (MLI): 18.1" [color="#006400"](+3.5")[/color]

EAX - Kansas City/Pleasant Hill
Kansas City MO (MCI): 3.2" [color="#FF0000"](-4.1")[/color]
St. Joseph MO (STJ): 2.5" [color="#FF0000"](-2.4")[/color]

FSD - Sioux Falls
Sioux City IA (SUX): 15.1" [color="#006400"](+1.3")[/color]
Sioux Falls SD (FSD): 21.8" [color="#006400"](+4.1")[/color]

GRB - Green Bay
Green Bay WI (GRB): 24.7" [color="#006400"](+2.0")[/color]
Wausau WI (AUW): 27.6" [color="#006400"](+1.5")[/color]

GRR - Grand Rapids
Grand Rapids MI (GRR): 18.1" [color="#FF0000"](-15.3")[/color]
Lansing MI (LAN): 12.4" [color="#FF0000"](-10.8")[/color]

ILN - Wilmington
Cincinnati OH (CVG): 18.2" [color="#006400"](+11.0")[/color]
Columbus OH (CMH): 10.5" [color="#006400"](+1.0")[/color]

ILX - Central Illinois
Peoria IL (PIA): 19.7" [color="#006400"](+8.6")[/color]
Springfield IL (SPI): 8.9" [color="#FF0000"](-0.5")[/color]

IND - Indianapolis
Indianapolis IN (IND): 18.5" [color="#006400"](+7.7")[/color]
Lafayette IN (TIM): 23.0"

IWX - Northern Indiana
Fort Wayne IN (FWA): 12.6" [color="#FF0000"](-1.9")[/color]
South Bend IN (SBN): 64.3" [color="#006400"](+30.0")[/color]

JKL - Jackson
Jackson KY (JKL): 21.9"

LMK - Louisville
Lexington KY (LEX): 16.3" [color="#006400"](+12.2")[/color]
Louisville KY (SDF): 7.2" [color="#006400"](+3.6")[/color]

LOT - Chicago
Chicago IL (ORD): 16.8" [color="#006400"](+2.4")[/color]
Rockford IL (RFD): 19.5" [color="#006400"](+2.4")[/color]

LSX - St. Louis
Columbia MO (COU): 8.4" [color="#006400"](+0.2")[/color]
St. Louis MO (STL): 8.5" [color="#006400"](+0.3")[/color]

MKX - Milwaukee/Sullivan
Madison WI (MSN): 22.1" [color="#006400"](+0.3")[/color]
Milwaukee WI (MKE): 9.6" [color="#FF0000"](-10.7")[/color]

MPX - Twin Cities
Minneapolis MN (MSP): 45.3" [color="#006400"](+21.1")[/color]
St. Cloud MN (STC): 24.7" [color="#006400"](+3.6")[/color]

MQT - Marquette
Marquette MI (MQT): 78.4" [color="#FF0000"](-0.4")[/color]
Sault Ste. Marie MI (ANJ): 33.1" [color="#FF0000"](-33.5")[/color]

PAH - Paducah
Evansville IN (EVV): 6.6" [color="#006400"](+2.0")[/color]
Paducah KY (PAH): 5.6" [color="#006400"](+3.0")[/color]

SGF - Springfield
Joplin MO (JLN): T
Springfield MO (SGF): 1.0"

Ontario - Canada
Ottawa ON (YOW): 17.2"
Toronto ON (Downtown): 14.7"
Toronto ON (YYZ): 10.7"

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[quote name='Chicago WX' timestamp='1294800040' post='275893']
[b]Snowfall totals/departures through January 9, 2010[/b]
*Ontario sites may be a day or two late
*Totals and departures since July 1, 2010

Departure leaders through 1/9
:) South Bend IN (SBN): 64.3" [color="#006400"](+30.0")[/color]
:( [b]Sault Ste. Marie MI (ANJ): 33.1" [color="#ff0000"](-33.5")[/color]

[/b][/quote]

Pretty sweet when your seasonal snowfall total can be at less than 50% of normal in mid January and still have recorded 33+ inches.

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Through this past system...

[quote name='Chicago WX' timestamp='1294800040' post='275893']
LOT - Chicago
Chicago IL (ORD): 22.7"
Rockford IL (RFD): 22.4"
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