donsutherland1 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 20 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Just like back in 1895 and 1896 (I kid but you know what I mean lol). Even as New York City sweltered in 97-degree heat on September 23, 1895, it was on the verge of a dramatic plunge in temperatures. The mercury still reached 90° on September 26, but a sharp cooldown followed. Just two days later, the high struggled to reach 68°, and by September 30, temperatures had dropped further, with a high of 60° and a low of 47°. The chill deepened as October began, with a low of 44° on the 1st, and the entire first week remained unseasonably cool. A reinforcing shot of cold air arrived on October 9, delivering a low of 38° and a daytime high of just 47°, followed by a low of 37° on October 10. The rest of the month continued a mainly cool pattern, with five more mornings dipping into the 30s, marking October 1895 as a notably chilly chapter in the city's weather history. With a monthly mean temperature of 52.4°, October 1895 was tied with October 1887 as the seventh coolest October on record. The last October that was at least as cool as October 1895 was October 1925. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 12 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: Even as New York City sweltered in 97-degree heat on September 23, 1895, it was on the verge of a dramatic plunge in temperatures. The mercury still reached 90° on September 26, but a sharp cooldown followed. Just two days later, the high struggled to reach 68°, and by September 30, temperatures had dropped further, with a high of 60° and a low of 47°. The chill deepened as October began, with a low of 44° on the 1st, and the entire first week remained unseasonably cool. A reinforcing shot of cold air arrived on October 9, delivering a low of 38° and a daytime high of just 47°, followed by a low of 37° on October 10. The rest of the month continued a mainly cool pattern, with five more mornings dipping into the 30s, marking October 1895 as a notably chilly chapter in the city's weather history. With a monthly mean temperature of 52.4°, October 1895 was tied with October 1887 as the seventh coolest October on record. The last October that was at least as cool as October 1895 was October 1925. That really sounds like the kind of weather I would have loved, higher highs and lower lows lol. I know March 1896 was the first time we had 30 inches of snow in one month too. There was a big blizzard in one of those years in January with temperatures near 0 too. Question, how can you have a blizzard with temperatures near 0? Wouldn't the air have to be coming off the ocean? What's the coldest temperature we have ever had in 10 inches or more of snow (high low split during snowfall) Don? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve392 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 57 minutes ago, the_other_guy said: I mean hoodies and shorts can get you thru mid Dec if youre a dude Hoodie and shorts combo get's me from around now depending on the chill when i leave for work til about April following spring LOL 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 41 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: Probably not. I am fairly sure that most or all of the NYC region have already seen their last 90s. In fact, there has been a big change in the ECMWF weeklies for the week of September 29-October 6 with the new run that just came out. 9/22 Run: 9/23 Run: Beyond that, all the weeks are warmer than the were on the preceding run. Yeah, looks like all the real cold is limited to Siberia. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 18z RGEM (and 3K NAM) are drenchers for Thursday into Friday 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago What time do we dry out on Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, psv88 said: What time do we dry out on Saturday Looks like it wraps up Friday AM/Midday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: 18z RGEM (and 3K NAM) are drenchers for Thursday into Friday That's a serious cutoff just to our south, looks like a snowmap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: Looks like it wraps up Friday AM/Midday Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, LibertyBell said: That really sounds like the kind of weather I would have loved, higher highs and lower lows lol. I know March 1896 was the first time we had 30 inches of snow in one month too. There was a big blizzard in one of those years in January with temperatures near 0 too. Question, how can you have a blizzard with temperatures near 0? Wouldn't the air have to be coming off the ocean? What's the coldest temperature we have ever had in 10 inches or more of snow (high low split during snowfall) Don? For Central Park: February 13, 1899: 16.0" snow (High: 11°; Low: 6°) For Newark: December 26, 1872: 16.0" snow (High: 11°; Low: 5°) For Central Park, 18.0" fell on December 26, 1872 with a high of 12° and low of 6°. Data for Measurable Snowfall: Coldest High for Measurable Snowfall: New York City: 8°, February 8, 1895 and December 29, 1917 Newark: 4°, December 29, 1917 Coldest Low for Measurable Snowfall: New York city: -6°, December 29, 1917 Newark: -6°, February 11, 1899 and January 14, 1912 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 27 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: For Central Park: February 13, 1899: 16.0" snow (High: 11°; Low: 6°) For Newark: December 26, 1872: 16.0" snow (High: 11°; Low: 5°) For Central Park, 18.0" fell on December 26, 1872 with a high of 12° and low of 6°. Data for Measurable Snowfall: Coldest High for Measurable Snowfall: New York City: 8°, February 8, 1895 and December 29, 1917 Newark: 4°, December 29, 1917 Coldest Low for Measurable Snowfall: New York city: -6°, December 29, 1917 Newark: -6°, February 11, 1899 and January 14, 1912 A more recent event would be January 15th 2004 when it started to snow at 14 degrees in Central Park the evening before and finished up the following morning with about 6 to 9 inches of ultra fluff and a temp of 8 degrees. That day's high was 18 with a low of 2. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 17 minutes ago, Sundog said: A more recent event would be January 15th 2004 when it started to snow at 14 degrees in Central Park the evening before and finished up the following morning with about 6 to 9 inches of ultra fluff and a temp of 8 degrees. That day's high was 18 with a low of 2. I recall that event. There was sea smoke rising from the Long Island Sound even as the snow was falling. I doubled the size of an old photo from that storm and highlighted some of the sea smoke. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, LibertyBell said: That really sounds like the kind of weather I would have loved, higher highs and lower lows lol. I know March 1896 was the first time we had 30 inches of snow in one month too. There was a big blizzard in one of those years in January with temperatures near 0 too. Question, how can you have a blizzard with temperatures near 0? Wouldn't the air have to be coming off the ocean? What's the coldest temperature we have ever had in 10 inches or more of snow (high low split during snowfall) Don? it was 103 in 1895 in New Jersey. New Brunswick record for gthe day was a high of 103. Newark Sep 1895 September 20 90 62 0.00 0.0 September 21 98 69 0.00 0.0 September 22 96 70 0.00 0.0 September 23 97 70 0.00 0.0 NYC Sep 1895 September 20 93 68 0.00 0.0 September 21 95 77 0.00 0.0 September 22 95 75 0.00 0.0 September 23 97 76 0.00 0.0 September 24 78 63 0.00 0.0 September 25 77 60 0.00 0.0 September 26 90 73 0.21 0.0 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 9 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: I recall that event. There was sea smoke rising from the Long Island Sound even as the snow was falling. The was the first and last time I was able to "shovel" 8 inches of snow with a broom, and I mean really effortlessly. The ratios were outrageous. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestHillWx Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Merciful rain shower out this way; LFG!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 18 minutes ago, SACRUS said: it was 103 in 1895 in New Jersey. New Brunswick record for gthe day was a high of 103. Newark Sep 1895 September 20 90 62 0.00 0.0 September 21 98 69 0.00 0.0 September 22 96 70 0.00 0.0 September 23 97 70 0.00 0.0 NYC Sep 1895 September 20 93 68 0.00 0.0 September 21 95 77 0.00 0.0 September 22 95 75 0.00 0.0 September 23 97 76 0.00 0.0 September 24 78 63 0.00 0.0 September 25 77 60 0.00 0.0 September 26 90 73 0.21 0.0 103 in late September?? omg if that happened now people would go CRAZY Is that the highest temperature ever recorded in our area after the autumnal equinox, Tony? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 14 minutes ago, Sundog said: The was the first and last time I was able to "shovel" 8 inches of snow with a broom, and I mean really effortlessly. The ratios were outrageous. it must have sparkled like pixie dust lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 20 minutes ago, SACRUS said: it was 103 in 1895 in New Jersey. New Brunswick record for gthe day was a high of 103. Newark Sep 1895 September 20 90 62 0.00 0.0 September 21 98 69 0.00 0.0 September 22 96 70 0.00 0.0 September 23 97 70 0.00 0.0 NYC Sep 1895 September 20 93 68 0.00 0.0 September 21 95 77 0.00 0.0 September 22 95 75 0.00 0.0 September 23 97 76 0.00 0.0 September 24 78 63 0.00 0.0 September 25 77 60 0.00 0.0 September 26 90 73 0.21 0.0 this is an absolutely outrageous late season heatwave, our latest heatwave on record? To get 4 straight days of 90+ and 3 straight days of 95+ would be very impressive in the middle of summer, but after the autumnal equinox-- WOW!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uniblab Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, bluewave said: Yeah, looks like all the real cold is limited to Siberia. As usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 37 minutes ago, Sundog said: A more recent event would be January 15th 2004 when it started to snow at 14 degrees in Central Park the evening before and finished up the following morning with about 6 to 9 inches of ultra fluff and a temp of 8 degrees. That day's high was 18 with a low of 2. That was the first of two pink snowstorms I have seen in my entire life-- at sunrise it was still snowing heavily but the clouds were starting to break up and it looked like a pink blizzard was happening outside for awhile. I think Far Rockaway jackpotted in that storm (Jamaica Bay effect snow?) if I remember correctly they had 11 or 12 inches of snow? LGA had 80:1 ratios and the rest of us had 25:1 to 40:1 ratios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, bluewave said: Yeah, looks like all the real cold is limited to Siberia. But isn't this normal Chris? Siberia is the coldest permanently inhabited place in the world and Oymjakon specifically is considered the coldest town on the entire planet (along with Verkhoyansk) they comprise the famous Cold Pole. This is a nice change from when they were blazingly hot and wildfires were burning there though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, Uniblab said: As usual. Yes Oymjakon is the coldest inhabited town on the entire planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, donsutherland1 said: For Central Park: February 13, 1899: 16.0" snow (High: 11°; Low: 6°) For Newark: December 26, 1872: 16.0" snow (High: 11°; Low: 5°) For Central Park, 18.0" fell on December 26, 1872 with a high of 12° and low of 6°. Data for Measurable Snowfall: Coldest High for Measurable Snowfall: New York City: 8°, February 8, 1895 and December 29, 1917 Newark: 4°, December 29, 1917 Coldest Low for Measurable Snowfall: New York city: -6°, December 29, 1917 Newark: -6°, February 11, 1899 and January 14, 1912 Wow those were two truly historic blizzards who would have thought Cape May was the snowfall capital of NJ with 34 inches of snow in that 1899 blizzard lol. and that 1872 storm would be an absolutely amazing storm to have on Boxing Day, does this mean we actually have three Boxing Day blizzards? In 1872, 1947 and 2010? Boxing Day blizzards are more common than President's Day blizzards lol. Don how much snow did we have during that December 29, 1917 day when the low was -6 and the high was 8, that must have been an extremely rare day with a high in the single digits and a low well below 0!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Brian5671 said: 18z RGEM (and 3K NAM) are drenchers for Thursday into Friday No wonder Jeff Smith was talking about massive flooding potential in the evening newscast today! He did say we would clear in time for the weekend and maybe as early as Friday morning the sun would come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 18z EUr with twin storms riding around the Atl Ridge offshore the southeast coast Tuesday. 18z GFS seems to merge them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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donsutherland1 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 11 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Wow those were two truly historic blizzards who would have thought Cape May was the snowfall capital of NJ with 34 inches of snow in that 1899 blizzard lol. and that 1872 storm would be an absolutely amazing storm to have on Boxing Day, does this mean we actually have three Boxing Day blizzards? In 1872, 1947 and 2010? Boxing Day blizzards are more common than President's Day blizzards lol. Don how much snow did we have during that December 29, 1917 day when the low was -6 and the high was 8, that must have been an extremely rare day with a high in the single digits and a low well below 0!! 2.0" fell on December 29, 1917. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 59 minutes ago Share Posted 59 minutes ago 8 minutes ago, SACRUS said: The HRRR has everything south of 78 completely fizzling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 51 minutes ago Share Posted 51 minutes ago 22 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: That was the first of two pink snowstorms I have seen in my entire life-- at sunrise it was still snowing heavily but the clouds were starting to break up and it looked like a pink blizzard was happening outside for awhile. I think Far Rockaway jackpotted in that storm (Jamaica Bay effect snow?) if I remember correctly they had 11 or 12 inches of snow? LGA had 80:1 ratios and the rest of us had 25:1 to 40:1 ratios. I can't find prior storm events before 2010 on Upton's site. Apparently text takes up a huge amount of storage space and so they can't spare it. It's been this way for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted 46 minutes ago Share Posted 46 minutes ago Btw that 2004 event had 850s colder than -36C in parts of Maine. Crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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