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July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability


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1 hour ago, Picard said:

I can't imagine lows bottoming in the 30s around here in July as a relatively normal thing.
Global warming is definitely in play here, but I wonder if it's also a heat island affect, even though we are further from the city areas, how much of an affect have we seen?
Also airborne pollutants trapping heat and not allowing it to radiate off (aside from CO2)
And higher dewpoints would likely correlate with less radiational cooling.

According to the records of NCEI, lows in the 30s were observed somewhere in the State of New Jersey in the following years. Note, this is not an exhaustive list of ALL 30s. Some of these years had more than one site and/or more than one day in the 30s. This is just the lowest observation each year. The all-time statewide monthly record low is 33F, set at Layton 3 NW on July 3, 1929. The last time a low below 40F was observed in the state during the month of July was July 9, 2000, when Lambertville reported a low of 38F.

1890: 39F

1898: 38F

1899: 38F

1903: 38F

1909: 39F

1912: 36F

1918: 39F

1925: 39F

1927: 36F

1929: 33F

1939: 38F

1943: 39F

1945: 36F

1954: 39F

1957: 38F

1975: 39F

1986: 39F

2000: 38F

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Daily Data for July 3, 1929 for New Jersey
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
LAYTON 3 NW COOP 72 33
RUNYON COOP 76 37
CHARLOTTEBURG RESERVOIR COOP 71 38
SUSSEX 1 NW COOP 73 40
HIGHTSTOWN 2 W COOP 75 42
SOMERVILLE 4 NW COOP 75 42
BELLEPLAIN STA FOREST COOP 76 43
INDIAN MILLS 2 W COOP 76 43
PLAINFIELD COOP 76 44
BELVIDERE COOP 77 44
LITTLE FALLS COOP 75 44
Belvidere Area ThreadEx 77 44
DOVER COOP 73 44
PLEASANTVILLE 1 N COOP 80 45
TUCKERTON 2 NE COOP 80 45
BOONTON 1 SE COOP 76 45
ROEBLING COOP 80 46
FLEMINGTON 5 NNW COOP 76 46
MOORESTOWN 4 E COOP 75 47
PHILLIPSBURG COOP 75 47
RIDGEFIELD COOP 75 47
CULVERS LAKE COOP M 47
LAMBERTVILLE RIVER COOP 73 47
LONG BRANCH-OAKHURST COOP 76 48
NEW BRUNSWICK EXPERIMENT STATION COOP 74 48
NEW MILFORD COOP 78 48
NEWTON COOP 78 48
New Brunswick Area ThreadEx 74 48
TRENTON-NOTTINGHAMWA COOP M 50
PATERSON COOP 76 51
TRENTON WBAN 73 53
Trenton Area ThreadEx 73 53
CAPE MAY 2 NW COOP 76 54
JERSEY CITY COOP 79 56
ATLANTIC CITY MARINA WBAN 78 58
Atlantic City Marina Area ThreadEx 78 58
ELIZABETH COOP 78 70
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1 minute ago, bluewave said:

Ben Noll posted some of the maps showing the record high dew points on X.

 

Ben is an invaluable source of weather information. Even when he was working in New Zealand, he often posted informative weather information (frequently focused on the Hudson Valley).

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2 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said:

JFK Airport is on track to be warmer than Central Park in July by its largest margin on record. The existing record is 0.3° in 1969 (JFK: 75.0°, Central Park: 74.7°).

We made it to 93 here already, I thought it was supposed to be cooler today and rain all day?

Has JFK made it to a 80.0 average for the month, Don?

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28 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said:

According to the records of NCEI, lows in the 30s were observed somewhere in the State of New Jersey in the following years. Note, this is not an exhaustive list of ALL 30s. Some of these years had more than one site and/or more than one day in the 30s. This is just the lowest observation each year. The all-time statewide monthly record low is 33F, set at Layton 3 NW on July 3, 1929. The last time a low below 40F was observed in the state during the month of July was July 9, 2000, when Lambertville reported a low of 38F.

1890: 39F

1898: 38F

1899: 38F

1903: 38F

1909: 39F

1912: 36F

1918: 39F

1925: 39F

1927: 36F

1929: 33F

1939: 38F

1943: 39F

1945: 36F

1954: 39F

1957: 38F

1975: 39F

1986: 39F

2000: 38F

Back then we probably had a lot of volcanic eruptions and nuclear fall out emissions.

It's not part of our climate to get that cold here in July.

 

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1 minute ago, LibertyBell said:

Back then we probably had a lot of volcanic eruptions and nuclear fall out emissions.

It's not part of our climate to get that cold here in July.

 

probably due to the heat island effect not being huge back then plus more ice in the arctic.

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10 hours ago, donsutherland1 said:

Central Park (31 days) has tied its July record for most 80F (26.7C) or above days. In addition, July 2025 is the second consecutive July with 31 such days, which sets a new record for most consecutive years. The only other years were 1944, 2022 and 2024.

1944 was such a hot summer, pretty amazing for back then.

1944, 1948, 1949, 1953, 1955, 1966 some Hall of Fame summers right there

 

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14 hours ago, dWave said:

Thats true. And central AC is much more common down there. Northeast cities were developed before they was AC or even cars. Down there people go from central ac home, to ac in the car, drive to store with ac and ample parking nearby. Meanwhile people in NY tend to experience the weather more directly every day.

Subway platforms, while always super hot, felt like a new level today. If records were kept on that, it would of broke it. Somewhere in the 110s wouldn't be surprising at stations like Union Sq or BK Bridge.

omg some guy on ABC was using a digital thermometer to measure sidewalk temperatures and it was at 164 degrees, the subway platforms were probably over 200 degrees!!

 

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14 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said:

I project a mean July temperature of approximately 72.2F (+/- 0.5F) for the statewide average, which would make 2025 the 4th hottest July (and 4th hottest of any month) for the State of New York.

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I dont know about those other ones but 1949 and 1955 were extremely hot!!!
 

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9 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

We made it to 93 here already, I thought it was supposed to be cooler today and rain all day?

Has JFK made it to a 80.0 average for the month, Don?

It's there right now, but the question is whether it will hold, as the lowest temperature will occur near 1 am EDT. 

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3 hours ago, SACRUS said:

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 103 (1954)
NYC: 102 (1933)
LGA: 97 (1954)
JFK: 95 (2002)

Lows:

EWR: 56 (1932)
NYC: 57 (1914)
LGA: 62 (1956)
JFK: 58 (1964)


Historical:
 

1715: Spanish treasure ships, returning from the New World to Spain, encountered a hurricane during the early morning hours on this day. Eleven of the twelve ships were lost near present-day Vero Beach, Florida. 

 

1769: Hail fell 12 inches deep and lasted for 30 hours at Scituate, MA. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1861: Cherrapunji, India set a world monthly rainfall record with a total of 366.14 inches. Cherrapunji also holds the world record rainfall for a 12-month period: 1,041.78 inches from August 1, 1860 to July 31, 1861. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1891: A six day streak with high temperatures at or above 110° finally came to an end at Fresno, CA. This is their longest such streak on record. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1906: Everyday this month at Bakersfield, CA the high temperature was at or above 100°. This is the only month on record where that occurred there. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1931: Fresno, CA reached triple digit highs 28 days during the month. This tied a record for the most 100 degree plus days with July 1906. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1936: A tropical storm moved in from the Bahamas and crossed extreme south Florida into the Gulf of Mexico. The storm strengthened into a hurricane and made landfall near Ft. Walton Beach, FL early on this date. Winds gusted to 125 mph and storm surge reached 6 feet. Four people died. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1945: Richmond, Virginia had 18.21 inches during July the highest monthly total rainfall on their records. (Ref. Richmond Weather Records - KRIC)


1949: Lightning struck a baseball field at Baker, Florida during a game. The shortstop and third baseman were killed instantly.

 

1971: Unusually cold air settled into the southern Plains. Low temperatures were 15 to 20 degrees below normal, ranging from the mid 40s in northeast Oklahoma, the lower 50s in central sections, and near 60 in the southwest. Oklahoma City recorded a low of 53°, their coldest temperature ever observed in July. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

 

 

1976 - A stationary thunderstorm produced more than ten inches of rain which funneled into the narrow Thompson River Canyon of northeastern Colorado. A wall of water six to eight feet high wreaked a twenty-five mile path of destruction from Estes Park to Loveland killing 156 persons. The flash flood caught campers, and caused extensive structural and highway damage. Ten miles of U.S. Highway 34 were totally destroyed as the river was twenty feet higher than normal at times. (David Ludlum) (The Weather Channel)

 

1980: Record heat continued across the middle of the country. Daily record highs included: Columbia, MO: 108°, Tulsa, OK: 108°, Oklahoma City, OK: 107° and Springfield, MO: 104°. Dodge City, KS recorded 22 days of 100° or higher, with 17 of those days in a row with temperatures of 102° or higher. This was the driest July of the 20th century across Oklahoma. The statewide average rainfall was less than a half an inch, with many locations receiving no rain. Along with the dry weather, it was very hot, with several high temperature records broken. An estimated 37 people died across Oklahoma due in part to the extreme heat. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1981: Springfield, IL reported a total of 10.76 inches of rain during the month, establishing a July record. Much of the total was because of two major rainstorms during the month, one of which produced 3 inches of rain, and the other, 4.33 inches. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1983: Oklahoma is typically hot and dry during the summer, but July 1983 was extremely dry. Only a trace of rain fell in Oklahoma City, making it their driest July on record. The driest months ever recorded in Oklahoma City were January 1986 and August 2000, when not even a trace of moisture fell. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)
 

1986 - The temperature at Little Rock, AR, soared to 112 degrees to establish an all-time record high for that location. Morrilton, AR, hit 115 degrees, and daily highs for the month at that location averaged 102 degrees. (The Weather Channel)

1987 - The deadliest tornado in 75 years struck Edmonton, Alberta, killing 26 persons and injuring 200 others. The twister caused more than 75 million dollars damage along its nineteen mile path, leaving 400 families homeless. At the Evergreen Mobile Home Park, up to 200 of the 720 homes were flattened by the tornado. (The National Severe Storms Forecast Center)

1987 - Afternoon highs of 106 degrees at Aberdeen, SD, and 102 degrees at Ottumwa, IA, and Rapid City, SD, established records for the date. It marked the seventh straight day of 100 degree heat for Rapid City. Baltimore, MD, reported a record twenty-two days of 90 degree weather in July. Evening thunderstorms produced golf ball size hail at Lemmon, SD, and wind gusts to 80 mph at Beulah, ND. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1988 - Twenty-one cities in the north central U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date, including Sioux City, IA, with a reading of 107 degrees. The reading of 105 degrees at Minneapolis, MN, was their hottest since 1936. Pierre and Chamberlain, SD, with highs of 108 degrees, were just one degree shy of the hot spot in the nation, Palm Springs, CA. (The National Weather Summary)

1989 - Overnight thunderstorms soaked eastern Kansas and western Missouri with heavy rain. Four and a half inches of rain was reported at Nevada, MO. Evening thunderstorms in Oklahoma produced wind gusts to 75 mph at Covington. Six cities in the north central U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date, including Williston, ND, with a reading of 105 degrees. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary)

1991: July became the wettest month ever with 17.46 inches of rain at Columbia, SC. The old record was 16.72 inches set in August 1949. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1992: Boston, Massachusetts this year had no 90 °F or higher temperatures for the year. (Ref. NOAA Boston Weather Events) Flint, MI ended their coolest July on record, while Columbus, OH, Buffalo, NY and Williamsport, PA experienced their wettest. Columbus had a record 29 cloudy days and 17 days with thunderstorms during the month. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1993: The 30.3 inches of rain that fell during the month at Worth County, Missouri was nearly equal to the amount of rainfall that the area would receive in an entire year. Record precipitation that occurred across a good portion of the mid-Mississippi valley during the summer fell as far east as parts of central Illinois. During the month of July, Canton reported 12.66 inches of rain and Peoria reported 10.15 inches, both setting a record for the month. Springfield's 9.46 inches was good enough for the 2nd wettest July on record. Sioux Falls airport received 7.86 inches. That ranks July 1993 as the third wettest July on record in Sioux Falls. The high total of July 1993 also contributed to the wettest summer (June, July & August) on record in Sioux Falls with 17.39 inches of rain. Crop growth was very slow, with corn and soybeans two weeks to one month behind their normal growth by the end of July in Iowa. Losses in the corn crop amounted to nearly $1.389 billion, losses in soybeans were around $941 million dollars and oat damage was about $26 million dollars. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1994: Philadelphia, PA ended the month with 10.42 inches of rain, breaking the monthly record of 10.30 inches set in July 1919. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1996: A major hailstorm struck Cheyenne, WY with hail reported up to 2.5 inches in diameter. Damage was estimated to be about $3.4 million dollars. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)



2009: Hail to golf ball size pummeled Prairie Dog State Park near Norton, KS. The hail shattered windows in 60 vehicles and caused significant damage to 40 RVs/campers; park cabins were also damaged. Total damage was estimated to be $1 million. (Weather Guide Calendar with Phenomenal Weather Events 2011 Accord Pub. 2010, USA)

2010: The heat of July 2010 was brutal and relentless !! Tied for hottest month of all time in Washington (83.1 °F) and at BWI (81.5 °F) (Until 2011 see 2011 below) Positive monthly departures at all major airports: + 3.9 °F at DCA, +5.0 °F at BWI and +3.8 °F at IAD
Ref. July PRESTO Page 1 Richmond had its hottest July with an average temperature of 82.8 °F; the previous record was 82.4 °F set in 1993. The hottest month Richmond has ever felt was August of 1900 with a mean temperature of 82.9 °F which was only 0.1 °F higher. But this July was preceded by the hottest spring and hottest June on record. Richmond's average temperature for both June and July was the hottest on record at 82 °F. Norfolk also set a record for those two months at 81.6, according to the Weather Service.
(Ref. Richmond Weather Records - KRIC)July temperatures -- Richmond had 24 days 90 °F or higher and the 113 year record for July is 26 days in 1993. Richmond had 18 days 95 °F or higher setting a new 113 year record for July the most for any month on record.
Norfolk, VA had 13 days 95 °F or higher tying their record for July. Richmond had 7 days with 100 °F or higher and the previous 113 year record, the most for any month, was 6 days in July 1977 and 1963. The 105 °F record temperature on the 24th and 25th also ties the highest maximum temperature ever recorded in July in Richmond. The Airport had ten days in 2010 with the temperature 100 °F or more; the old record was nine set in 1954. Rainfall total of only 2.01 inches for June and July made it the driest June and July on record. (Ref. Richmond Times-Dispatch Newspaper Thursday, August 26, 2010)(Ref. Richmond Weather Records - KRIC)
DCA soared to a record 102 °F on the 7th and 101 °F on the 24th. BWI recorded record high temperatures on 4 days: 6th (105 °F), 7th (101 °F), 24th (101 °F) and 25th (100 °F) On the 6th, BWI soared to 105 °F; 2nd hottest day ever in Baltimore (107 °F, 7/10/36); at or above 100 °F at BWI on 5 days, most on record At or above 90 °F on 44 days in 2010 at DCA, most number of days through July on record. Ref. July PRESTO Page 1

2011: Hottest average monthly temperatures on record at all three major airports: 84.5 °F at DCA (+5.3 °F); 81.7 °F at BWI (+5.2 °F); and 81.0 °F (+5.3 °F) at IAD. On 22nd, BWI’s high of 106 °F was second highest temperature on record; IAD's record maximum of 105 °F was hottest temperature on record; DCA’s 104 °F on 30th tied for the 5th highest reading in Washington; Heat Index values reached 121 °F at DCA, 118 °F at BWI and 117 °F at IAD due to oppressive humidity. DCA recorded 7 days with minimums at or above 80 °F, including a record 4 consecutive days from 21st-25th BWI observed 4 days with highs at or above 100 °F ; 3 such occurrences at DCA and IAD DCA reported 25 days with highs at or above 90 °F; BWI and IAD, 24; setting records at all three locations
Ref. Taken from the Sterling Reporter Volume 10, Issue 3 National Weather Service Baltimore MD/Washington DC Forecast Office Summer 2011 Ref. July 2011 PRESTO Page 1

2017: The famously fiery national park 100 miles to the west set an unpleasant record in July with an average temperature of 107.4 degrees. That ranks as the hottest month ever measured in the Western Hemisphere, according to the National Weather Service. Christopher Burt thinks it might be a world record as well. The weather historian for Weather Underground said he only knows of one monthly average that’s higher — 107.44 degrees recorded in July 2014 at a military base in northern Saudi Arabia — but that measurement has been discredited because it apparently didn’t include overnight temperature readings. “So far nobody’s come up with another figure that’s higher than Death Valley’s,” Burt said. Andy Gorelow, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service in Las Vegas, said unusually hot conditions at night were largely responsible for the new monthly record in Death Valley. The average low at the park’s official weather station in Furnace Creek, California, was 95.1 in July, the warmest of any month on record by more than a full degree. The average high in Death Valley last month was 119.6 degrees. July 7 was the single hottest day, with a high of 127. The temperature never dropped below 89 all month. (Death Valley Just Had Its Hottest Month July 2017 Elizabeth Shogren NEWS Aug. 8, 2017) (The Actual Temperatures for the Hottest Month of July 2017)

 

wow how did become so long Tony?

1980: Record heat continued across the middle of the country. Daily record highs included: Columbia, MO: 108°, Tulsa, OK: 108°, Oklahoma City, OK: 107° and Springfield, MO: 104°. Dodge City, KS recorded 22 days of 100° or higher, with 17 of those days in a row with temperatures of 102° or higher. This was the driest July of the 20th century across Oklahoma. The statewide average rainfall was less than a half an inch, with many locations receiving no rain. Along with the dry weather, it was very hot, with several high temperature records broken. An estimated 37 people died across Oklahoma due in part to the extreme heat. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

 

endless summers

1988 - Twenty-one cities in the north central U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date, including Sioux City, IA, with a reading of 107 degrees. The reading of 105 degrees at Minneapolis, MN, was their hottest since 1936. Pierre and Chamberlain, SD, with highs of 108 degrees, were just one degree shy of the hot spot in the nation, Palm Springs, CA. (The National Weather Summary)

2010: The heat of July 2010 was brutal and relentless !! Tied for hottest month of all time in Washington (83.1 °F) and at BWI (81.5 °F) (Until 2011 see 2011 below) Positive monthly departures at all major airports: + 3.9 °F at DCA, +5.0 °F at BWI and +3.8 °F at IAD
Ref. July PRESTO Page 1 Richmond had its hottest July with an average temperature of 82.8 °F; the previous record was 82.4 °F set in 1993. The hottest month Richmond has ever felt was August of 1900 with a mean temperature of 82.9 °F which was only 0.1 °F higher. But this July was preceded by the hottest spring and hottest June on record. Richmond's average temperature for both June and July was the hottest on record at 82 °F. Norfolk also set a record for those two months at 81.6, according to the Weather Service.
(Ref. Richmond Weather Records - KRIC)July temperatures -- Richmond had 24 days 90 °F or higher and the 113 year record for July is 26 days in 1993. Richmond had 18 days 95 °F or higher setting a new 113 year record for July the most for any month on record.
Norfolk, VA had 13 days 95 °F or higher tying their record for July. Richmond had 7 days with 100 °F or higher and the previous 113 year record, the most for any month, was 6 days in July 1977 and 1963. The 105 °F record temperature on the 24th and 25th also ties the highest maximum temperature ever recorded in July in Richmond. The Airport had ten days in 2010 with the temperature 100 °F or more; the old record was nine set in 1954. Rainfall total of only 2.01 inches for June and July made it the driest June and July on record. (Ref. Richmond Times-Dispatch Newspaper Thursday, August 26, 2010)(Ref. Richmond Weather Records - KRIC)
DCA soared to a record 102 °F on the 7th and 101 °F on the 24th. BWI recorded record high temperatures on 4 days: 6th (105 °F), 7th (101 °F), 24th (101 °F) and 25th (100 °F) On the 6th, BWI soared to 105 °F; 2nd hottest day ever in Baltimore (107 °F, 7/10/36); at or above 100 °F at BWI on 5 days, most on record At or above 90 °F on 44 days in 2010 at DCA, most number of days through July on record. Ref. July PRESTO Page 1

2011: Hottest average monthly temperatures on record at all three major airports: 84.5 °F at DCA (+5.3 °F); 81.7 °F at BWI (+5.2 °F); and 81.0 °F (+5.3 °F) at IAD. On 22nd, BWI’s high of 106 °F was second highest temperature on record; IAD's record maximum of 105 °F was hottest temperature on record; DCA’s 104 °F on 30th tied for the 5th highest reading in Washington; Heat Index values reached 121 °F at DCA, 118 °F at BWI and 117 °F at IAD due to oppressive humidity. DCA recorded 7 days with minimums at or above 80 °F, including a record 4 consecutive days from 21st-25th BWI observed 4 days with highs at or above 100 °F ; 3 such occurrences at DCA and IAD DCA reported 25 days with highs at or above 90 °F; BWI and IAD, 24; setting records at all three locations
Ref. Taken from the Sterling Reporter Volume 10, Issue 3 National Weather Service Baltimore MD/Washington DC Forecast Office Summer 2011 Ref. July 2011 PRESTO Page 1
 


1993: The 30.3 inches of rain that fell during the month at Worth County, Missouri was nearly equal to the amount of rainfall that the area would receive in an entire year. Record precipitation that occurred across a good portion of the mid-Mississippi valley during the summer fell as far east as parts of central Illinois. During the month of July, Canton reported 12.66 inches of rain and Peoria reported 10.15 inches, both setting a record for the month. Springfield's 9.46 inches was good enough for the 2nd wettest July on record. Sioux Falls airport received 7.86 inches. That ranks July 1993 as the third wettest July on record in Sioux Falls. The high total of July 1993 also contributed to the wettest summer (June, July & August) on record in Sioux Falls with 17.39 inches of rain. Crop growth was very slow, with corn and soybeans two weeks to one month behind their normal growth by the end of July in Iowa. Losses in the corn crop amounted to nearly $1.389 billion, losses in soybeans were around $941 million dollars and oat damage was about $26 million dollars. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1994: Philadelphia, PA ended the month with 10.42 inches of rain, breaking the monthly record of 10.30 inches set in July 1919. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

 


1994: Philadelphia, PA ended the month with 10.42 inches of rain, breaking the monthly record of 10.30 inches set in July 1919. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

 

Philly had so much rain with a super hot July????

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2 hours ago, bluewave said:

This July was a continuation of the rural spots in NJ not dropping below 50°. Prior to the big increase of our summer temperatures in 2010, they would regularly have the monthly low temperature in the 40s. Before 1960 some spots would occasionally drop into the 30s. The lowest July temperatures have risen by around +10 since 1893 at spots like Charlotteburg Reservior, NJ. 
 

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I dont think you could grow crops here with lows in the 30s, maybe that was a mountaintop thing?

 

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2 hours ago, Picard said:

I can't imagine lows bottoming in the 30s around here in July as a relatively normal thing.
Global warming is definitely in play here, but I wonder if it's also a heat island affect, even though we are further from the city areas, how much of an affect have we seen?
Also airborne pollutants trapping heat and not allowing it to radiate off (aside from CO2)
And higher dewpoints would likely correlate with less radiational cooling.

if that even happened an argument can be made for global warming being a good thing to keep that kind of cold weather away and increase and lengthen the growing season.

 

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