July 2025 Discussion-OBS - seasonable summer variability

[bluewave]

7 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

you know as well as I do those are inflated lol.

There are no scientific standards being applied with regards to siting (the same can be said about Central Park.)

 

Those actual neighborhoods are the warmest in NYC. Corona got the compressional warming ahead of the sea breeze front yesterday. If the airports were located away from the water, then they would have been closer to the 102-103° range instead of topping out at 100°-101°. That 2° differential is what you would expect to see when further from the water like LGA. Newark didn’t really get into the compressional warming ahead of the sea breeze front yesterday like Queens did. 

[Dark Star]

8 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

We really need to stop building brick buildings and brick houses.  They are basically ovens.  In my time in the SW and in other places that hot, I noticed how well their buildings cool off in the evenings-- and so quickly.  We need to start building more housing with stone and clay.  Homes built with this material removes heat very quickly.  I really don't care about our winters anymore, they are no longer relevant, we need to build housing that removes heat as quickly as possible.

Aren't bricks kiln dried clay?

[LibertyBell]

6 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

Already 88-90 in Long Beach. I’m sure the seabreeze will be cranking there soon but might just hike up the humidity. 

no way keep that thing away, I want it to be like late June, hopefully it stays down there lol

[LibertyBell]

3 minutes ago, Dark Star said:

Aren't bricks kiln dried clay?

well the clay I saw used in the SW was different, it was basically adobe clay

The Pueblo peoples of the American Southwest built homes out of adobe, sun-dried earth made from sand, clay, water, and organic matter.

-from Brainly

[LibertyBell]

3 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Those actual neighborhoods are the warmest in NYC. Corona got the compressional warming ahead of the sea breeze front yesterday. If the airports were located away from the water, then they would have been closer to the 102-103° range instead of topping out at 100°-101°. That 2° differential is what you would expect to see when further from the water like LGA. Newark didn’t really get into the compressional warming ahead of the sea breeze front yesterday like Queens did. 

it's probably because thats a concrete jungle and the densest most highly populated part of the city.  But I don't take 103 degree temperatures seriously.  If I wanted I could stick my thermometer out in a sunny part of my yard and record even higher temperatures than that.

Today it looks like the sea breeze might stay away until later so we have a much better chance at 100+

 

[LibertyBell]

3 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

it's probably because thats a concrete jungle and the densest most highly populated part of the city.  But I don't take 103 degree temperatures seriously.  If I wanted I could stick my thermometer out in a sunny part of my yard and record even higher temperatures than that.

Today it looks like the sea breeze might stay away until later so we have a much better chance at 100+

 

The back to back 106 and 103 I recorded last month was the real deal though, same exact siting as in July 2010 and July 2011 and it was hotter than either of them at their peak.

 

[bluewave]

1 minute ago, LibertyBell said:

it's probably because thats a concrete jungle and the densest most highly populated part of the city.  But I don't take 103 degree temperatures seriously.  If I wanted I could stick my thermometer out in a sunny part of my yard and record even higher temperatures than that.

Today it looks like the sea breeze might stay away until later so we have a much better chance at 100+

 

Those are professional thermometers that are shielded and aspirated. So they are getting the accurate temperatures for those urban areas. Low rise sprawl in Queens actually gets warmer than areas where skyscrapers cast shadows during the day. They did a recent study that it also adds more to UHI at night since it allows the ground level to absorb more heat than in places like Manhattan with more shade from the skyscrapers. 

[LibertyBell]

3 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Those are professional thermometers that are shielded and aspirated. So they are getting the accurate temperatures for those urban areas. Low rise sprawl in Queens actually gets warmer than areas where skyscrapers cast shadows during the day. They did a recent study that it also adds more to UHI at night since it allows the ground level to absorb more heat than in places like Manhattan with more shade from the skyscrapers. 

I just don't see how it's possible as the heat wasn't anywhere near as anomalous as June's was when I hit 106 and 103 on back to back days. Although I suppose it's possible, my car thermometer recorded 106 a few times in the part of Queens I describe below.

I don't disagree about the skyscrapers making it cooler, I have driven around the city in the past and northern Queens was consistently the hottest part of the city, especially that area when you leave the Mid Town Tunnel and just before you hit the Grand Central.  It's because density of population and extremely high traffic volume, that part of Queens is at least 5 degrees hotter than Manhattan on the other side of the tunnel (and this is year round not just in the summer.)

 

[SACRUS]

 

88 / 71 partly cloudy.  Hot mid - upper 90s / 100s hot spots.  Isolated storms later.  Timing of the front and any overnight lows will be factor in any 90s for Thu (7/31)  Rain/ storms Thu / Fri will dump 2- 4 in ches in local areas where storms slow.  Boundary clears through Friday evening.   Onshore barrage starts Saturday through Wed/THu  cooler  - near - below normal.   Flow comes around more southerly for  warm - hot / humid and wetter overall 8/8 and beyond.

 

[LibertyBell]

1 minute ago, LibertyBell said:

I just don't see how it's possible as the heat wasn't anywhere near as anomalous as June's was when I hit 106 and 103 on back to back days. Although I suppose it's possible, my car thermometer recorded 106 a few times in the part of Queens I describe below.

I don't disagree about the skyscrapers making it cooler, I have driven around the city in the past and northern Queens was consistently the hottest part of the city, especially that area when you leave the Mid Town Tunnel and just before you hit the Grand Central.  It's because density of population and extremely high traffic volume, that part of Queens is at least 5 degrees hotter than Manhattan on the other side of the tunnel (and this is year round not just in the summer.)

 

One of the times I recorded 106 on my car thermometer was in July 2019 when I was driving through northern Queens.  I think the high at JFK was 99 (ugh) and it was 100 at LGA if I remember correctly.  In Manhattan it was 98 on my car thermometer and then I got into the Midtown Tunnel and came out the other side and just after that and before I hit the Grand Central the temperature rose to 106 lol.

It starts to drop again after you pass that park and lake near the Grand Central (I don't remember the name of either.)

 

[SACRUS]

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 101 (1949)
NYC: 98 (1988)
LGA: 99 (1988)
JFK: 96 (2002)


Lows:

EWR: 57 (1946)
NYC: 57 (1956)
LGA: 61 (1956)
JFK: 59 (1968)

 

Historical:

1906: Fresno, CA recorded their 28th 100 degree or higher day for the month setting a record for the most triple digit high temperatures ever in July. This record was tied in July 1931. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1913: Violent thunderstorms hit the Washington, DC area with 55 mph winds and 1.21 inches of rain in 10 minutes and 1.51 inches in 15 minutes. (Ref. Washington Weather Records - KDCA)

1913: Offshore winds negate the cooling effect of Lake Michigan as Muskegon hits 99° for its all-time record high temperature. Temperatures are actually a bit lower inland as Grand Rapids was 96° and Lansing 92°. Bloomington, IN soared to a record high of 108°. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1923: The greatest daily precipitation to occur in the month of July in Richmond, Virginia was 7.24 inches.
(Ref. Richmond Weather Records - KRIC)

1949 - The state record for Connecticut was established when the town of Greenville registered an afternoon high of 102 degrees. (The Weather Channel)

1955: Bakersfield, CA managed an afternoon high of only 67°, their lowest maximum temperature on record for July and the low of 45 °F is the record coldest low minimum for July at that location. This is also the only time the temperature has dropped below 50 °F in July at Bakersfield. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)
 

1965 - The temperature at Portland, OR, reached 107 degrees to equal their all-time record high. (The Weather Channel)

1970: Hurricane Celia was born in the northwest of the Caribbean Sea on this day. The hurricane would be one of the worst ever to hit Texas and would reach Texas late on August 3. The storm reached its peak as it made landfall near Corpus Christi, Texas, as a strong Category 3 hurricane. Hurricane Celia is currently the last major hurricane to make landfall on the middle Texas Coast until Hurricane Harvey in 2017.

1978: Tropical Storm Amelia moved inland on the Texas coast north of Brownsville, TX and moved northward into Texas. The storm would not be known for damage along the coast, but rather for extensive flooding that it caused in the Texas Hill Country and in the Big Bend Area near Abilene, TX. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)
 

1979 - A forty-minute hailstorm bombed Fort Collins, CO, with baseball to softball size hail. Two thousand homes and 2500 automobiles were damaged, and about 25 persons were injured, mainly when hit on the head by the huge stones. A three month old baby died later of injuries. (The Weather Channel)

1982: 4.22 inches of rain fell in Amarillo, TX setting a 24-hour July record. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1987 - Afternoon highs of 105 degrees at Aberdeen SD, 102 degrees at Bismarck, ND, and 102 degrees at Pueblo, CO, were records for the date. Pueblo, CO, reported just .09 inch of rain for the first thirty days of the month. (The National Weather Summary)

1988 - A dozen cities in the north central and northeastern U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date. Downtown Baltimore, MD, hit 103 degrees, marking a record eight days of 100 degree heat for the month, and ten for the year. The high of 101 degrees at Billings, MT, marked a record seventeen days of 100 degree heat for the year. Thunderstorms produced severe weather in the northeast, with nearly fifty reports of large hail or damaging winds in Pennsylvania and New York State. A tree fell on a car at Erie, PA, injuring four persons. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1989 - Morning thunderstorms over central Missouri deluged Columbia with 5.98 inches of rain causing flash flooding. Daytime thunderstorms in Kentucky drenched Paducah with 1.73 inches of rain in less than half an hour. Evening thunderstorms in the north central U.S. produced wind gusts to 78 mph east of Moccasin, MT. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

 

1999: An intense heat wave began across the Midwest on the 28th and continued through the 31st. The heat peaked on this date with high temperatures in the Chicago area over 100 with heat indexes between 115 °F and 120 °F. Early morning, Chicago set their all-time highest dew point reading of 82 °F at Midway Airport. There were a total of 99 fatalities with the majority in Cook County. The overnight low of 77 °F at Rockford, IL set a record high minimum. (Ref. WxDoctor)

2000: Virginia Beach, VA a 39-year-old man was killed while doing yard work under a tree. (Ref. Lightning - Virginia Weather History)

2005: The temperature hit 101° at Denver, CO setting a new record high for the date. This was also the 7th day of the month with a high temperature of 100 or higher, which set a new record for the most 100 degree days in a month, for a season and in a year.(Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

2008: Heavy rains from the remnants of Hurricane Dolly drench section of Missouri. Total rainfall amounts included 3.05 inches at Lees Summit; 2.78 inches at Kansas City; MO and 1.63 inches at St. Louis, MO. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

2016: A massive rainfall caused a devastating flash flood in Ellicott City, Md., a 1-in-1,000-year event that has been happening with unprecedented frequency since 2010, meteorologists said. The storm, killed two people, dumped 6.5 inches of rain on Ellicott City in only about 3 hours, with 5.5 inches falling in just 90 minute. One nearby spot recorded 8.22 inches, amounts that weather service meteorologist Greg Carbin called 'off the charts...' A 1-in-1,000-year rain event is a statistical way of expressing the probability of such a massive rainfall occurring in any given year in a given location, according to the NCEI. In other words, it had a 1 in 1,000 chance of occurring in Ellicott City ," (Ref. The Washington Post, Capital Weather Gang, NWS and NCEI)

 

[SACRUS]

9 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

One of the times I recorded 106 on my car thermometer was in July 2019 when I was driving through northern Queens.  I think the high at JFK was 99 (ugh) and it was 100 at LGA if I remember correctly.  In Manhattan it was 98 on my car thermometer and then I got into the Midtown Tunnel and came out the other side and just after that and before I hit the Grand Central the temperature rose to 106 lol.

It starts to drop again after you pass that park and lake near the Grand Central (I don't remember the name of either.)

 

 

That was 7/21/19

[LibertyBell]

1 minute ago, SACRUS said:

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 101 (1949)
NYC: 98 (1988)
LGA: 99 (1988)
JFK: 96 (2002)


Lows:

EWR: 57 (1946)
NYC: 57 (1956)
LGA: 61 (1956)
JFK: 59 (1968)

 

Historical:

1906: Fresno, CA recorded their 28th 100 degree or higher day for the month setting a record for the most triple digit high temperatures ever in July. This record was tied in July 1931. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1913: Violent thunderstorms hit the Washington, DC area with 55 mph winds and 1.21 inches of rain in 10 minutes and 1.51 inches in 15 minutes. (Ref. Washington Weather Records - KDCA)

1913: Offshore winds negate the cooling effect of Lake Michigan as Muskegon hits 99° for its all-time record high temperature. Temperatures are actually a bit lower inland as Grand Rapids was 96° and Lansing 92°. Bloomington, IN soared to a record high of 108°. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1923: The greatest daily precipitation to occur in the month of July in Richmond, Virginia was 7.24 inches.
(Ref. Richmond Weather Records - KRIC)

1949 - The state record for Connecticut was established when the town of Greenville registered an afternoon high of 102 degrees. (The Weather Channel)

1955: Bakersfield, CA managed an afternoon high of only 67°, their lowest maximum temperature on record for July and the low of 45 °F is the record coldest low minimum for July at that location. This is also the only time the temperature has dropped below 50 °F in July at Bakersfield. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)
 

1965 - The temperature at Portland, OR, reached 107 degrees to equal their all-time record high. (The Weather Channel)

1970: Hurricane Celia was born in the northwest of the Caribbean Sea on this day. The hurricane would be one of the worst ever to hit Texas and would reach Texas late on August 3. The storm reached its peak as it made landfall near Corpus Christi, Texas, as a strong Category 3 hurricane. Hurricane Celia is currently the last major hurricane to make landfall on the middle Texas Coast until Hurricane Harvey in 2017.

1978: Tropical Storm Amelia moved inland on the Texas coast north of Brownsville, TX and moved northward into Texas. The storm would not be known for damage along the coast, but rather for extensive flooding that it caused in the Texas Hill Country and in the Big Bend Area near Abilene, TX. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)
 

1979 - A forty-minute hailstorm bombed Fort Collins, CO, with baseball to softball size hail. Two thousand homes and 2500 automobiles were damaged, and about 25 persons were injured, mainly when hit on the head by the huge stones. A three month old baby died later of injuries. (The Weather Channel)

1982: 4.22 inches of rain fell in Amarillo, TX setting a 24-hour July record. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1987 - Afternoon highs of 105 degrees at Aberdeen SD, 102 degrees at Bismarck, ND, and 102 degrees at Pueblo, CO, were records for the date. Pueblo, CO, reported just .09 inch of rain for the first thirty days of the month. (The National Weather Summary)

1988 - A dozen cities in the north central and northeastern U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date. Downtown Baltimore, MD, hit 103 degrees, marking a record eight days of 100 degree heat for the month, and ten for the year. The high of 101 degrees at Billings, MT, marked a record seventeen days of 100 degree heat for the year. Thunderstorms produced severe weather in the northeast, with nearly fifty reports of large hail or damaging winds in Pennsylvania and New York State. A tree fell on a car at Erie, PA, injuring four persons. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1989 - Morning thunderstorms over central Missouri deluged Columbia with 5.98 inches of rain causing flash flooding. Daytime thunderstorms in Kentucky drenched Paducah with 1.73 inches of rain in less than half an hour. Evening thunderstorms in the north central U.S. produced wind gusts to 78 mph east of Moccasin, MT. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

 

1999: An intense heat wave began across the Midwest on the 28th and continued through the 31st. The heat peaked on this date with high temperatures in the Chicago area over 100 with heat indexes between 115 °F and 120 °F. Early morning, Chicago set their all-time highest dew point reading of 82 °F at Midway Airport. There were a total of 99 fatalities with the majority in Cook County. The overnight low of 77 °F at Rockford, IL set a record high minimum. (Ref. WxDoctor)

2000: Virginia Beach, VA a 39-year-old man was killed while doing yard work under a tree. (Ref. Lightning - Virginia Weather History)

2005: The temperature hit 101° at Denver, CO setting a new record high for the date. This was also the 7th day of the month with a high temperature of 100 or higher, which set a new record for the most 100 degree days in a month, for a season and in a year.(Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

2008: Heavy rains from the remnants of Hurricane Dolly drench section of Missouri. Total rainfall amounts included 3.05 inches at Lees Summit; 2.78 inches at Kansas City; MO and 1.63 inches at St. Louis, MO. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

2016: A massive rainfall caused a devastating flash flood in Ellicott City, Md., a 1-in-1,000-year event that has been happening with unprecedented frequency since 2010, meteorologists said. The storm, killed two people, dumped 6.5 inches of rain on Ellicott City in only about 3 hours, with 5.5 inches falling in just 90 minute. One nearby spot recorded 8.22 inches, amounts that weather service meteorologist Greg Carbin called 'off the charts...' A 1-in-1,000-year rain event is a statistical way of expressing the probability of such a massive rainfall occurring in any given year in a given location, according to the NCEI. In other words, it had a 1 in 1,000 chance of occurring in Ellicott City ," (Ref. The Washington Post, Capital Weather Gang, NWS and NCEI)

 

1906: Fresno, CA recorded their 28th 100 degree or higher day for the month setting a record for the most triple digit high temperatures ever in July. This record was tied in July 1931. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

wow California had a lot of problems in 1906....

 

1988 - A dozen cities in the north central and northeastern U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date. Downtown Baltimore, MD, hit 103 degrees, marking a record eight days of 100 degree heat for the month, and ten for the year. The high of 101 degrees at Billings, MT, marked a record seventeen days of 100 degree heat for the year. Thunderstorms produced severe weather in the northeast, with nearly fifty reports of large hail or damaging winds in Pennsylvania and New York State. A tree fell on a car at Erie, PA, injuring four persons. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

How did Baltimore have 10 100 degree days in 1988 and we had zero in the city?

 

 

1999: An intense heat wave began across the Midwest on the 28th and continued through the 31st. The heat peaked on this date with high temperatures in the Chicago area over 100 with heat indexes between 115 °F and 120 °F. Early morning, Chicago set their all-time highest dew point reading of 82 °F at Midway Airport. There were a total of 99 fatalities with the majority in Cook County. The overnight low of 77 °F at Rockford, IL set a record high minimum. (Ref. WxDoctor)

 

wow 1999 had incredible endless heat everywhere !!!

[SACRUS]

 

89 / 72 ahead of yesterday by about 10 mins here so far  / Dew poins are higher 

[LibertyBell]

2 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

That was 7/21/19

Thanks I know it was well timed for the weekend, it was 99 both Saturday and Sunday at JFK and 99 Saturday at LGA and 100 Sunday at LGA. The highest heat indices ever recorded at JFK (113 if I remember it correctly or was it 117?)

That night we had severe wx and the power went out in Brooklyn-- I remember that too lol

 

[LibertyBell]

Just now, SACRUS said:

 

89 / 72 ahead of yesterday by about 10 mins here so far  / Dew poins are higher 

10 minutes lol? It's 91 here now.  In and out of clouds too.

[Brian5671]

30 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

it'll still be pretty humid and uncomfortable I bet with dew points in the mid 70s or higher

the forecast had a high of 84 for tomorrow, I assume that'll happen when it's not raining lol

models have slowed everything down-looks more like over night Thurs into Fri for the best rains

[SACRUS]

2 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

1906: Fresno, CA recorded their 28th 100 degree or higher day for the month setting a record for the most triple digit high temperatures ever in July. This record was tied in July 1931. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

wow California had a lot of problems in 1906....

 

1988 - A dozen cities in the north central and northeastern U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date. Downtown Baltimore, MD, hit 103 degrees, marking a record eight days of 100 degree heat for the month, and ten for the year. The high of 101 degrees at Billings, MT, marked a record seventeen days of 100 degree heat for the year. Thunderstorms produced severe weather in the northeast, with nearly fifty reports of large hail or damaging winds in Pennsylvania and New York State. A tree fell on a car at Erie, PA, injuring four persons. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

How did Baltimore have 10 100 degree days in 1988 and we had zero in the city?

 

 

 

 

wow 1999 had incredible endless heat everywhere !!!

 

1988 as a scorcher especially west of the city

 

July 1988 Newark Weather

Day	High (°F)	Low (°F)	Precip. (inches)	Snow (inches)
July 1	73	54	0.00	0.0
July 2	82	59	0.00	0.0
July 3	87	61	0.00	0.0
July 4	87	66	0.00	0.0
July 5	86	69	0.00	0.0
July 6	91	70	0.00	0.0
July 7	92	71	0.00	0.0
July 8	97	73	0.00	0.0
July 9	89	74	0.03	0.0
July 10	100	72	0.00	0.0
July 11	100	78	0.00	0.0
July 12	86	74	0.17	0.0
July 13	89	74	0.00	0.0
July 14	96	70	0.00	0.0
July 15	94	76	0.02	0.0
July 16	101	74	0.12	0.0
July 17	100	73	0.92	0.0
July 18	96	74	0.00	0.0
July 19	90	74	1.10	0.0
July 20	82	74	2.55	0.0
July 21	88	73	1.84	0.0
July 22	80	74	0.03	0.0
July 23	78	71	0.45	0.0
July 24	84	73	0.62	0.0
July 25	90	69	0.00	0.0
July 26	87	70	1.81	0.0
July 27	84	69	0.06	0.0
July 28	87	71	0.26	0.0
July 29	95	73	0.00	0.0
July 30	99	78	0.00	0.0
July 31	90	76	0.00	0.0

August 1988 Newark Weather

Day	High (°F)	Low (°F)	Precip. (inches)	Snow (inches)
August 1	91	76	0.00	0.0
August 2	94	76	0.00	0.0
August 3	93	76	0.00	0.0
August 4	92	77	0.00	0.0
August 5	90	77	0.00	0.0
August 6	90	75	0.00	0.0
August 7	93	77	0.00	0.0
August 8	90	75	0.00	0.0
August 9	92	75	0.00	0.0
August 10	93	76	0.01	0.0
August 11	97	77	0.00	0.0
August 12	95	80	0.00	0.0
August 13	98	79	0.00	0.0
August 14	98	80	0.00	0.0
August 15	99	81	0.00	0.0
August 16	92	74	0.00	0.0
August 17	90	70	0.05	0.0
August 18	88	71	0.00	0.0
August 19	79	64	0.00	0.0
August 20	76	64	0.00	0.0
August 21	87	61	0.00	0.0
August 22	80	60	0.00	0.0
August 23	74	65	0.06	0.0
August 24	79	64	1.38	0.0
August 25	83	64	0.01	0.0
August 26	89	67	0.01	0.0
August 27	81	71	0.00	0.0
August 28	89	71	0.00	0.0
August 29	79	67	0.30	0.0
August 30	76	66	0.00	0.0
August 31	81	60	0.00	0.0

[LibertyBell]

Just now, Brian5671 said:

models have slowed everything down-looks more like over night Thurs into Fri for the best rains

so still a chance at 90 tomorrow?

[bluewave]

17 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

I just don't see how it's possible as the heat wasn't anywhere near as anomalous as June's was when I hit 106 and 103 on back to back days. Although I suppose it's possible, my car thermometer recorded 106 a few times in the part of Queens I describe below.

I don't disagree about the skyscrapers making it cooler, I have driven around the city in the past and northern Queens was consistently the hottest part of the city, especially that area when you leave the Mid Town Tunnel and just before you hit the Grand Central.  It's because density of population and extremely high traffic volume, that part of Queens is at least 5 degrees hotter than Manhattan on the other side of the tunnel (and this is year round not just in the summer.)

 

That’s why ConEd installed the new network. They were probably noticing stronger cooling demand from those neighborhoods in Queens and wanted to get reliable temperatures there. Since the airports are located right on the water and there is a large area of urban neighborhoods that are located more in the interior of the city.

[LibertyBell]

Just now, SACRUS said:

 

1988 as a scorcher especially west of the city

 

July 1988 Newark Weather

Day	High (°F)	Low (°F)	Precip. (inches)	Snow (inches)
July 1	73	54	0.00	0.0
July 2	82	59	0.00	0.0
July 3	87	61	0.00	0.0
July 4	87	66	0.00	0.0
July 5	86	69	0.00	0.0
July 6	91	70	0.00	0.0
July 7	92	71	0.00	0.0
July 8	97	73	0.00	0.0
July 9	89	74	0.03	0.0
July 10	100	72	0.00	0.0
July 11	100	78	0.00	0.0
July 12	86	74	0.17	0.0
July 13	89	74	0.00	0.0
July 14	96	70	0.00	0.0
July 15	94	76	0.02	0.0
July 16	101	74	0.12	0.0
July 17	100	73	0.92	0.0
July 18	96	74	0.00	0.0
July 19	90	74	1.10	0.0
July 20	82	74	2.55	0.0
July 21	88	73	1.84	0.0
July 22	80	74	0.03	0.0
July 23	78	71	0.45	0.0
July 24	84	73	0.62	0.0
July 25	90	69	0.00	0.0
July 26	87	70	1.81	0.0
July 27	84	69	0.06	0.0
July 28	87	71	0.26	0.0
July 29	95	73	0.00	0.0
July 30	99	78	0.00	0.0
July 31	90	76	0.00	0.0

August 1988 Newark Weather

Day	High (°F)	Low (°F)	Precip. (inches)	Snow (inches)
August 1	91	76	0.00	0.0
August 2	94	76	0.00	0.0
August 3	93	76	0.00	0.0
August 4	92	77	0.00	0.0
August 5	90	77	0.00	0.0
August 6	90	75	0.00	0.0
August 7	93	77	0.00	0.0
August 8	90	75	0.00	0.0
August 9	92	75	0.00	0.0
August 10	93	76	0.01	0.0
August 11	97	77	0.00	0.0
August 12	95	80	0.00	0.0
August 13	98	79	0.00	0.0
August 14	98	80	0.00	0.0
August 15	99	81	0.00	0.0
August 16	92	74	0.00	0.0
August 17	90	70	0.05	0.0
August 18	88	71	0.00	0.0
August 19	79	64	0.00	0.0
August 20	76	64	0.00	0.0
August 21	87	61	0.00	0.0
August 22	80	60	0.00	0.0
August 23	74	65	0.06	0.0
August 24	79	64	1.38	0.0
August 25	83	64	0.01	0.0
August 26	89	67	0.01	0.0
August 27	81	71	0.00	0.0
August 28	89	71	0.00	0.0
August 29	79	67	0.30	0.0
August 30	76	66	0.00	0.0
August 31	81	60	0.00	0.0

wow 4 100+ in July and 99 in August

[LibertyBell]

Just now, bluewave said:

That’s why ConEd installed the new network. They were probably noticing stronger cooling demand from those neighborhoods in Queens and wanted to get reliable temperatures there. Since the airports are located right on the water and there is a large area of urban neighborhoods that are located more in the interior of the city.

Do you think NWS is going to use any of these stations for their official backup or perhaps even apply a corrective factor to the poorly sited Central Park ASOS?  Which of these would be the closest to Central Park (so we can see the difference.)

 

[SACRUS]

 

EWR joins 1966 and others for most 95F or higher season leaders with a long way to go for the top 3.  We'll see mid august - early sep has a few to run up the number.

 

Year	Rank	Days >= 95 °F
1993	1	25
2010	2	21
2022	3	20
1988	3	20
1944	3	20
2021	4	18
2012	5	17
2011	5	17
2002	5	17
1955	5	17
1949	6	16
2005	7	14
1953	7	14
2016	8	13
1999	8	13
1991	8	13
1987	8	13
1994	,9	12
1983	9	12
1966	9	12
2025	9	12

 

 

[SACRUS]

 

NYC 1988 / east of NJ not as much strong heat buy still a top 5 or so summer overall

 

une 1988 New York City Weather

Day	High (°F)	Low (°F)	Precip. (inches)	Snow (inches)
June 1	90	58	0.40	0.0
June 2	63	51	0.00	0.0
June 3	66	50	0.14	0.0
June 4	67	50	0.15	0.0
June 5	82	54	0.00	0.0
June 6	81	65	0.00	0.0
June 7	77	62	0.00	0.0
June 8	75	59	0.00	0.0
June 9	65	52	0.10	0.0
June 10	71	50	0.00	0.0
June 11	78	52	0.00	0.0
June 12	90	61	0.00	0.0
June 13	93	69	0.00	0.0
June 14	96	71	0.00	0.0
June 15	96	74	0.00	0.0
June 16	92	69	0.09	0.0
June 17	74	65	0.05	0.0
June 18	85	65	0.00	0.0
June 19	86	66	0.00	0.0
June 20	87	68	0.00	0.0
June 21	97	76	0.00	0.0
June 22	98	75	0.00	0.0
June 23	87	65	0.00	0.0
June 24	81	61	0.00	0.0
June 25	76	61	0.00	0.0
June 26	82	63	0.34	0.0
June 27	83	58	0.00	0.0
June 28	86	61	0.00	0.0
June 29	80	60	0.02	0.0
June 30	78	55	0.00	0.0

July 1988 New York City Weather

Day	High (°F)	Low (°F)	Precip. (inches)	Snow (inches)
July 1	71	53	0.00	0.0
July 2	80	58	0.00	0.0
July 3	88	61	0.00	0.0
July 4	88	65	0.00	0.0
July 5	88	66	0.00	0.0
July 6	92	68	0.00	0.0
July 7	93	68	0.00	0.0
July 8	97	73	0.00	0.0
July 9	88	71	0.23	0.0
July 10	99	72	0.09	0.0
July 11	98	79	0.00	0.0
July 12	84	72	0.37	0.0
July 13	90	73	0.00	0.0
July 14	90	69	0.00	0.0
July 15	93	72	0.14	0.0
July 16	96	72	0.42	0.0
July 17	94	71	1.21	0.0
July 18	96	71	0.00	0.0
July 19	89	75	0.94	0.0
July 20	83	73	1.28	0.0
July 21	89	72	1.71	0.0
July 22	78	70	0.04	0.0
July 23	83	69	0.27	0.0
July 24	84	71	0.40	0.0
July 25	89	68	0.00	0.0
July 26	87	68	0.65	0.0
July 27	85	69	0.05	0.0
July 28	85	69	0.33	0.0
July 29	92	72	0.00	0.0
July 30	98	79	0.00	0.0
July 31	87	75	0.01	0.0

August 1988 New York City Weather

Day	High (°F)	Low (°F)	Precip. (inches)	Snow (inches)
August 1	91	73	0.00	0.0
August 2	91	75	0.00	0.0
August 3	89	76	0.00	0.0
August 4	89	76	0.00	0.0
August 5	89	76	0.00	0.0
August 6	89	75	0.00	0.0
August 7	91	77	0.00	0.0
August 8	88	72	0.00	0.0
August 9	93	73	0.00	0.0
August 10	93	76	0.00	0.0
August 11	95	77	0.00	0.0
August 12	94	80	0.00	0.0
August 13	96	79	0.00	0.0
August 14	99	80	0.00	0.0
August 15	97	81	0.00	0.0
August 16	86	74	0.00	0.0
August 17	89	74	0.14	0.0
August 18	82	70	0.00	0.0
August 19	82	63	0.00	0.0
August 20	77	62	0.00	0.0
August 21	88	62	0.00	0.0
August 22	80	56	0.00	0.0
August 23	75	61	0.06	0.0
August 24	75	62	1.60	0.0
August 25	83	62	0.05	0.0
August 26	88	68	0.09	0.0
August 27	84	67	0.00	0.0
August 28	88	71	0.00	0.0
August 29	78	67	0.25	0.0
August 30	77	63	0.00	0.0
August 31	82	59	0.00	0.0

[Brian5671]

11 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

so still a chance at 90 tomorrow?

90+ from Philly to central NJ-NYC is mid 80's on most models tomorrow

[Jersey Andrew]

10 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

1988 as a scorcher especially west of the city

 

July 1988 Newark Weather

Day	High (°F)	Low (°F)	Precip. (inches)	Snow (inches)
July 1	73	54	0.00	0.0
July 2	82	59	0.00	0.0
July 3	87	61	0.00	0.0
July 4	87	66	0.00	0.0
July 5	86	69	0.00	0.0
July 6	91	70	0.00	0.0
July 7	92	71	0.00	0.0
July 8	97	73	0.00	0.0
July 9	89	74	0.03	0.0
July 10	100	72	0.00	0.0
July 11	100	78	0.00	0.0
July 12	86	74	0.17	0.0
July 13	89	74	0.00	0.0
July 14	96	70	0.00	0.0
July 15	94	76	0.02	0.0
July 16	101	74	0.12	0.0
July 17	100	73	0.92	0.0
July 18	96	74	0.00	0.0
July 19	90	74	1.10	0.0
July 20	82	74	2.55	0.0
July 21	88	73	1.84	0.0
July 22	80	74	0.03	0.0
July 23	78	71	0.45	0.0
July 24	84	73	0.62	0.0
July 25	90	69	0.00	0.0
July 26	87	70	1.81	0.0
July 27	84	69	0.06	0.0
July 28	87	71	0.26	0.0
July 29	95	73	0.00	0.0
July 30	99	78	0.00	0.0
July 31	90	76	0.00	0.0

August 1988 Newark Weather

Day	High (°F)	Low (°F)	Precip. (inches)	Snow (inches)
August 1	91	76	0.00	0.0
August 2	94	76	0.00	0.0
August 3	93	76	0.00	0.0
August 4	92	77	0.00	0.0
August 5	90	77	0.00	0.0
August 6	90	75	0.00	0.0
August 7	93	77	0.00	0.0
August 8	90	75	0.00	0.0
August 9	92	75	0.00	0.0
August 10	93	76	0.01	0.0
August 11	97	77	0.00	0.0
August 12	95	80	0.00	0.0
August 13	98	79	0.00	0.0
August 14	98	80	0.00	0.0
August 15	99	81	0.00	0.0
August 16	92	74	0.00	0.0
August 17	90	70	0.05	0.0
August 18	88	71	0.00	0.0
August 19	79	64	0.00	0.0
August 20	76	64	0.00	0.0
August 21	87	61	0.00	0.0
August 22	80	60	0.00	0.0
August 23	74	65	0.06	0.0
August 24	79	64	1.38	0.0
August 25	83	64	0.01	0.0
August 26	89	67	0.01	0.0
August 27	81	71	0.00	0.0
August 28	89	71	0.00	0.0
August 29	79	67	0.30	0.0
August 30	76	66	0.00	0.0
August 31	81	60	0.00	0.0

Do we have any idea about the dew points and humidity back then? I was 10 years old living in DC area in 1988 and remember a hot summer but nothing like the uncomfortable humidities today.

[SACRUS]

1 minute ago, Brian5671 said:

90+ from Philly to central NJ-NYC is mid 80's on most models tomorrow

 

All about timing with the boundary and clouds.  There may be some popup storms this afternoon/evening and also the opportunity for a city overnight 90 degree readings.

[LibertyBell]

6 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

EWR joins 1966 and others for most 95F or higher season leaders with a long way to go for the top 3.  We'll see mid august - early sep has a few to run up the number.

 

Year	Rank	Days >= 95 °F
1993	1	25
2010	2	21
2022	3	20
1988	3	20
1944	3	20
2021	4	18
2012	5	17
2011	5	17
2002	5	17
1955	5	17
1949	6	16
2005	7	14
1953	7	14
2016	8	13
1999	8	13
1991	8	13
1987	8	13
1994	,9	12
1983	9	12
1966	9	12
2025	9	12

 

 

1993 and 2010 way ahead of everyone else, just as I remember them :-)

 

[Brian5671]

2 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

All about timing with the boundary and clouds.  There may be some popup storms this afternoon/evening and also the opportunity for a city overnight 90 degree readings.

that would be crazy a midnight high of 90....

[LibertyBell]

5 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

NYC 1988 / east of NJ not as much strong heat buy still a top 5 or so summer overall

 

une 1988 New York City Weather

Day	High (°F)	Low (°F)	Precip. (inches)	Snow (inches)
June 1	90	58	0.40	0.0
June 2	63	51	0.00	0.0
June 3	66	50	0.14	0.0
June 4	67	50	0.15	0.0
June 5	82	54	0.00	0.0
June 6	81	65	0.00	0.0
June 7	77	62	0.00	0.0
June 8	75	59	0.00	0.0
June 9	65	52	0.10	0.0
June 10	71	50	0.00	0.0
June 11	78	52	0.00	0.0
June 12	90	61	0.00	0.0
June 13	93	69	0.00	0.0
June 14	96	71	0.00	0.0
June 15	96	74	0.00	0.0
June 16	92	69	0.09	0.0
June 17	74	65	0.05	0.0
June 18	85	65	0.00	0.0
June 19	86	66	0.00	0.0
June 20	87	68	0.00	0.0
June 21	97	76	0.00	0.0
June 22	98	75	0.00	0.0
June 23	87	65	0.00	0.0
June 24	81	61	0.00	0.0
June 25	76	61	0.00	0.0
June 26	82	63	0.34	0.0
June 27	83	58	0.00	0.0
June 28	86	61	0.00	0.0
June 29	80	60	0.02	0.0
June 30	78	55	0.00	0.0

July 1988 New York City Weather

Day	High (°F)	Low (°F)	Precip. (inches)	Snow (inches)
July 1	71	53	0.00	0.0
July 2	80	58	0.00	0.0
July 3	88	61	0.00	0.0
July 4	88	65	0.00	0.0
July 5	88	66	0.00	0.0
July 6	92	68	0.00	0.0
July 7	93	68	0.00	0.0
July 8	97	73	0.00	0.0
July 9	88	71	0.23	0.0
July 10	99	72	0.09	0.0
July 11	98	79	0.00	0.0
July 12	84	72	0.37	0.0
July 13	90	73	0.00	0.0
July 14	90	69	0.00	0.0
July 15	93	72	0.14	0.0
July 16	96	72	0.42	0.0
July 17	94	71	1.21	0.0
July 18	96	71	0.00	0.0
July 19	89	75	0.94	0.0
July 20	83	73	1.28	0.0
July 21	89	72	1.71	0.0
July 22	78	70	0.04	0.0
July 23	83	69	0.27	0.0
July 24	84	71	0.40	0.0
July 25	89	68	0.00	0.0
July 26	87	68	0.65	0.0
July 27	85	69	0.05	0.0
July 28	85	69	0.33	0.0
July 29	92	72	0.00	0.0
July 30	98	79	0.00	0.0
July 31	87	75	0.01	0.0

August 1988 New York City Weather

Day	High (°F)	Low (°F)	Precip. (inches)	Snow (inches)
August 1	91	73	0.00	0.0
August 2	91	75	0.00	0.0
August 3	89	76	0.00	0.0
August 4	89	76	0.00	0.0
August 5	89	76	0.00	0.0
August 6	89	75	0.00	0.0
August 7	91	77	0.00	0.0
August 8	88	72	0.00	0.0
August 9	93	73	0.00	0.0
August 10	93	76	0.00	0.0
August 11	95	77	0.00	0.0
August 12	94	80	0.00	0.0
August 13	96	79	0.00	0.0
August 14	99	80	0.00	0.0
August 15	97	81	0.00	0.0
August 16	86	74	0.00	0.0
August 17	89	74	0.14	0.0
August 18	82	70	0.00	0.0
August 19	82	63	0.00	0.0
August 20	77	62	0.00	0.0
August 21	88	62	0.00	0.0
August 22	80	56	0.00	0.0
August 23	75	61	0.06	0.0
August 24	75	62	1.60	0.0
August 25	83	62	0.05	0.0
August 26	88	68	0.09	0.0
August 27	84	67	0.00	0.0
August 28	88	71	0.00	0.0
August 29	78	67	0.25	0.0
August 30	77	63	0.00	0.0
August 31	82	59	0.00	0.0

wow two separate 99 degree heatwaves in July and August? thats like all the pain without the reward of a triple digit high

at least 1983 (which was a hotter summer) hit 100 both in July and August at JFK and 99 at Central Park in September