June 2025 discussion-obs: Summerlike

[rclab]

2 hours ago, bluewave said:

You live in a great neighborhood. Cobble Hill is one of the most in demand places to live in Brooklyn. Some people like a more urban setting and others more rural. You can be happy in many different types of environments.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DEf_vA7B4Fm/

 

Thank you so much BW. I sent it  to my daughter. A portion of the video shows Congress street park. The small row houses shown were actually carriage houses for the transportation use of the wealthy families who lived in the brownstone residences opposite them. The park is the result of those homes being demolished to make way for a multi family high rise apartment building project that was supposed to be built there. It was delayed, then stopped.The park was the positive legacy. The carriage houses were converted to cottage residences. The pine trees lined up against the fence were post holiday waiting for recycling. The snow gives even the harshest urban setting a touch of beauty. I pray my grandchildren will not need a dated half century video to see it. Thank you again, BW. As always ….
 

 

[steve392]

8 hours ago, Sundog said:

Clouds are getting thinner around the area, temps might rise in response. 

The Sun is a beast this time of year

Still no sun out.  Gotten a bit humid but still decent out. 

[rclab]

5 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

I love that name Cobble Hill.  I wonder if one can ski down this hill in the winter after a nice snowstorm?

 

Only one cobble stone street remains; Tiffany Place. The hill potion was probably more pronounced 170+ years ago, before residences started replacing the farmlands.  As always…..

 

[Snowlover11]

wtf, heavy mist here and nothing showing on radar.

[SnoSki14]

Models go for another strong ridge after the holiday but it's centered SW of us vs directly over and then it retros west. 

If that holds true then we'll avoid another 100+ stretch. 

[bluewave]

11 hours ago, rclab said:

Thank you so much BW. I sent it  to my daughter. A portion of the video shows Congress street park. The small row houses shown were actually carriage houses for the transportation use of the wealthy families who lived in the brownstone residences opposite them. The park is the result of those homes being demolished to make way for a multi family high rise apartment building project that was supposed to be built there. It was delayed, then stopped.The park was the positive legacy. The carriage houses were converted to cottage residences. The pine trees lined up against the fence were post holiday waiting for recycling. The snow gives even the harshest urban setting a touch of beauty. I pray my grandchildren will not need a dated half century video to see it. Thank you again, BW. As always ….

Beautiful collection of photos. There is so much Brooklyn history there going back to the Dutch settlement. The neighborhoods from around Prospect Park back to through your area up to Williamsburg contain some of the most sough-after urban real estate in the United States. I was able to find a great old photo from the Blizzard of 1888.

https://www.brownstoner.com/history/blizzard-1888-new-york-brooklyn-snow-storm-history-environmental-subway/

 

Out in the snow in Cobble Hill, possibly Clinton Street near Amity Street. Photo via Brooklyn Public Library

 

 

[SACRUS]

 

67 / 65  still an onshore focus keeping the June gloom cloud magnet overhead the brunt of the morning into early afternoon.  Once the sun returns heats up quickly to the mid / uppper 80s.  Those with more prolonged periods of sun could touch 90.  Scattered storms overnight.  Sunnier Sunday heats up upper 80s to low 90s in the hot spots again with scattered storms overnight. 

Mon looks the hottest of the week (till the 6/7th) with enough sun ahead of any storms, low perhaps some mid 90s in the hot spots.  Tue storms may be abit more in coverage, otherwise hot/humid with in/out sun.  

Wed - Sat :   Looks like a nice stretch (perhaps the nicest) of the summer beach days , dry, sunny, warm mainly mid - upper 80s with a mainly clear and dry fourth of July.   Euro is coolest for the 4th/5th keeping the area low 80s or lower.    Beyond there hotter towards the 7th and we'll see how the ridge lines up , overall hotter.

6/28 - 7/1 : Hot/humid possible storms (focus Sat PM, Mon PM / Tue)
7/2  - 7/5 :  Warm, dry , clear  mainly 80s
7/6 - 7/7: maybe a bit wetter
7/7 - beyond :  Turning Hotter

 

 

[donsutherland1]

Yesterday, New York City (Central Park) had a low of 62° while White Plains had a low of 63°. That was the first time since May 28th that New York City had a lower minimum temperature than White Plains and just the fourth time this year that has happened.

[bluewave]

58 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said:

Models go for another strong ridge after the holiday but it's centered SW of us vs directly over and then it retros west. 

If that holds true then we'll avoid another 100+ stretch. 

Yeah, models starting  to show a retrogression pattern. A piece of the Plains heat may try to come east in early July for a few days in the mid to perhaps upper 90s. But if the ridge axis remains west, then it won’t be nearly as hot as this last week was. That would follow the more historic precedent of no follow ups above 103° so soon. So maybe 95° to 99° for a day or two before the ridge pulls back. Then it’s possible that the WAR retrogrades in mid to late July with more 95° to 100° heat here. But hopefully nothing as strong as we just saw in late June. 

[SACRUS]

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 99 (2021)
NYC: 96 (1991)
LGA: 96 (2021)
JFK: 98 (2010)


Lows:

EWR: 53 (1970)
NYC: 54 (1995)
LGA: 55 (1995)
JFK: 54 (1995)


Historical:

 

 

1788 - The Battle of Monmouth in central New Jersey was fought in sweltering heat. The temperature was 96 degrees in the shade, and there were more casualties from the heat than from bullets. (David Ludlum)

 

1865: 24 people were killed by a tornado which cut a 40 mile swath through Southwest Wisconsin. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1892 - The temperature at Orogrande UT soared to 116 degrees to establish a record for the state. (Sandra and TI Richard Sanders)

1923 - A massive tornado hit Sandusky, OH, then swept across Lake Erie to strike the town of Lorain. The tornado killed 86 persons and caused twelve million dollars damage. The tornado outbreak that day was the worst of record for the state of Ohio up til that time. (David Ludlum)

 

1924: An F4 tornado hit Sandusky, OH then moved eastward across Lake Erie to strike Lorain, OH. 15 of the 64 deaths at Lorain occurred in the State Theatre, where a silent film was being shown. The tune "Sacrifice" was being played on the piano when the twister struck. The tornado produced a massive wave on Lake Erie. 85 people were killed and total damage was $12.5 million dollars (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1952: The highest overnight minimum temperature was 82° with a 98° maximum gave a daily mean of 90° at National Airport.

1954: All-time record temperatures for South Carolina tied at Camden, SC: 111 °F. (Ref. Lowest and Highest Temperatures for the 50 States)

1975 - Lee Trevino and two other golfers are struck by lightning at the Western Open golf tournament in Oak Brook, IL. (The Weather Channel)

1980 - The temperature at Wichita Falls, TX, soared to 117 degrees, their hottest reading of record. Daily highs were 110 degrees or above between the 24th of June and the 3rd of July. (The Weather Channel)

1987 - Thunderstorms developing along a cold front produced severe weather in the north central U.S. Thunderstorms in Nebraska produced wind gusts to 70 mph and baseball size hail at Arapahoe, and wind gusts to 80 mph along with baseball size hail at Wolback and Belgrade. Six cities in the Ohio Valley reported record low temperatures for the date, including Cincinnati, OH, with a reading of 50 degrees. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1988 - Showers and thunderstorms brought much needed rains to parts of the central U.S. Madison, WI, received 1.67 inches of rain, a record for the date, and their first measurable rain since the Mother's Day tornado outbreak on the 8th of May. (The National Weather Summary)

1989 - Evening thunderstorms deluged Winnfield LA with eleven inches of rain in four hours and fifteen minutes, and Baton Rouge LA reported 11 inches of rain in two days. Totals in west central Louisiana ranged up to 17 inches. Thunderstorms produced severe weather in the Northern High Plains. Two inch hail broke windows in nearly every building at Comstock, NE. Thunderstorms in North Dakta produced two inch hail at Killdeer, and golf ball size hail at Zap. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1998: Record breaking heat occurred across parts of the southern Plains. Amarillo, TX (recently broken, currently 6/26/2011: 111°) and Dodge City, KS both set their all-time record high temperatures with 108° and 110° respectively. Roswell, NM recorded a record daily high of 110 °F. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

2003: A damaging severe thunderstorm rolled in from the east into Liberal, KS. The combination of 80 to 100 mph wind and hail larger than golf balls produced at least $8 million dollars in damage. Flash flooding occurred following the devastating hail and wind storm. Nearly all streets in and around Liberal were flooded. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

2006: The storm total of the 22nd - 28th of 2006 was 12.10 inches the most precipitation ever recorded at the Annandale Weather Center in a storm in the last 26 years; the old storm total record was October 6th - 8th of 2005 when 7.09 inches occurred.
We were lucky in a sense that 2006 was dry with a - 6.29 precipitation departure going into June or even more flooding would have been experienced. (Annandale Weather Center - Annandale, VA.)

2010: The maximum temperature today at the Richmond International Airport was 102 °F which not only broke the record high temperature for the date, but was close to the 104 °F record maximum for the month of June. Both June 27th and 28th had a maximum temperature 102 °F. Richmond has never had back to back 100 °F plus days before in June.  Only three June days have been hotter: (June 30, 1937 103 °F) (June 19, 1944 103 °F) (June 26, 1952 104 °F ) June 2010 also had 19 days of 90 °F or hotter temperatures the record was 20 in 1943. The Richmond International Airport reported the mean temperature for June was 81.1 °F which was a new 113 year record. This breaks the old record of 79.2 °F set in 1943 and was a +8.7 °F departure from average. June had 8 new daily temperature records and all were for heat.  (Ref. Richmond Weather Records - KRIC)

2010: Richmond, Virginia, set record for the most days in June reaching 102 degrees F (June 24, 27, and 28). (Ref. Weatherwise U.S. Weather Highlights of 2010 page 8 )

[SACRUS]

 

Mainly Dry - only light isolated showers in CPA and scattered showers /offhsore ELI

 

[SACRUS]

 

Euro still not updating in the PSU site but is between the GFS/Candn .  Ridge off tne PNW forcing trough down the rockies.

 

[rclab]

2 hours ago, bluewave said:

Beautiful collection of photos. There is so much Brooklyn history there going back to the Dutch settlement. The neighborhoods from around Prospect Park back to through your area up to Williamsburg contain some of the most sough-after urban real estate in the United States. I was able to find a great old photo from the Blizzard of 1888.

https://www.brownstoner.com/history/blizzard-1888-new-york-brooklyn-snow-storm-history-environmental-subway/

 

Out in the snow in Cobble Hill, possibly Clinton Street near Amity Street. Photo via Brooklyn Public Library

 

 

Thank you B W. I’ll walk the street to see if I can make a match. The church spire in some of the photos is interesting. The two spires remaining in the neighborhood are St Paul’s on Court Street and Sacred Hearts on Hicks Street. There were others, with the spires now removed. My block, Tompkins Place was once gated and cobble stoned. Some of the old stones can still be found in back yards, retrieved and used for doorstops, way back. When I was clearing my cellar I found a portion of the original 19th century floor which was rough stone, not cobble, the lally columns were brick. These were the wealthy upper middle class houses. The ones on Court Street had dirt floor cellars and tree trunk lally columns. Some of those natural wood support columns, I believe, still exist today. Thank you again, stay well, as always ….

 

[LibertyBell]

10 hours ago, rclab said:

Only one cobble stone street remains; Tiffany Place. The hill potion was probably more pronounced 170+ years ago, before residences started replacing the farmlands.  As always…..

 

wow I wish there were more streets like this, this looks like something from Italy.

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, SACRUS said:

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 99 (2021)
NYC: 96 (1991)
LGA: 96 (2021)
JFK: 98 (2010)


Lows:

EWR: 53 (1970)
NYC: 54 (1995)
LGA: 55 (1995)
JFK: 54 (1995)


Historical:

 

 

1788 - The Battle of Monmouth in central New Jersey was fought in sweltering heat. The temperature was 96 degrees in the shade, and there were more casualties from the heat than from bullets. (David Ludlum)

 

1865: 24 people were killed by a tornado which cut a 40 mile swath through Southwest Wisconsin. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1892 - The temperature at Orogrande UT soared to 116 degrees to establish a record for the state. (Sandra and TI Richard Sanders)

1923 - A massive tornado hit Sandusky, OH, then swept across Lake Erie to strike the town of Lorain. The tornado killed 86 persons and caused twelve million dollars damage. The tornado outbreak that day was the worst of record for the state of Ohio up til that time. (David Ludlum)

 

1924: An F4 tornado hit Sandusky, OH then moved eastward across Lake Erie to strike Lorain, OH. 15 of the 64 deaths at Lorain occurred in the State Theatre, where a silent film was being shown. The tune "Sacrifice" was being played on the piano when the twister struck. The tornado produced a massive wave on Lake Erie. 85 people were killed and total damage was $12.5 million dollars (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

1952: The highest overnight minimum temperature was 82° with a 98° maximum gave a daily mean of 90° at National Airport.

1954: All-time record temperatures for South Carolina tied at Camden, SC: 111 °F. (Ref. Lowest and Highest Temperatures for the 50 States)

1975 - Lee Trevino and two other golfers are struck by lightning at the Western Open golf tournament in Oak Brook, IL. (The Weather Channel)

1980 - The temperature at Wichita Falls, TX, soared to 117 degrees, their hottest reading of record. Daily highs were 110 degrees or above between the 24th of June and the 3rd of July. (The Weather Channel)

1987 - Thunderstorms developing along a cold front produced severe weather in the north central U.S. Thunderstorms in Nebraska produced wind gusts to 70 mph and baseball size hail at Arapahoe, and wind gusts to 80 mph along with baseball size hail at Wolback and Belgrade. Six cities in the Ohio Valley reported record low temperatures for the date, including Cincinnati, OH, with a reading of 50 degrees. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1988 - Showers and thunderstorms brought much needed rains to parts of the central U.S. Madison, WI, received 1.67 inches of rain, a record for the date, and their first measurable rain since the Mother's Day tornado outbreak on the 8th of May. (The National Weather Summary)

1989 - Evening thunderstorms deluged Winnfield LA with eleven inches of rain in four hours and fifteen minutes, and Baton Rouge LA reported 11 inches of rain in two days. Totals in west central Louisiana ranged up to 17 inches. Thunderstorms produced severe weather in the Northern High Plains. Two inch hail broke windows in nearly every building at Comstock, NE. Thunderstorms in North Dakta produced two inch hail at Killdeer, and golf ball size hail at Zap. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1998: Record breaking heat occurred across parts of the southern Plains. Amarillo, TX (recently broken, currently 6/26/2011: 111°) and Dodge City, KS both set their all-time record high temperatures with 108° and 110° respectively. Roswell, NM recorded a record daily high of 110 °F. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

2003: A damaging severe thunderstorm rolled in from the east into Liberal, KS. The combination of 80 to 100 mph wind and hail larger than golf balls produced at least $8 million dollars in damage. Flash flooding occurred following the devastating hail and wind storm. Nearly all streets in and around Liberal were flooded. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History)

2006: The storm total of the 22nd - 28th of 2006 was 12.10 inches the most precipitation ever recorded at the Annandale Weather Center in a storm in the last 26 years; the old storm total record was October 6th - 8th of 2005 when 7.09 inches occurred.
We were lucky in a sense that 2006 was dry with a - 6.29 precipitation departure going into June or even more flooding would have been experienced. (Annandale Weather Center - Annandale, VA.)

2010: The maximum temperature today at the Richmond International Airport was 102 °F which not only broke the record high temperature for the date, but was close to the 104 °F record maximum for the month of June. Both June 27th and 28th had a maximum temperature 102 °F. Richmond has never had back to back 100 °F plus days before in June.  Only three June days have been hotter: (June 30, 1937 103 °F) (June 19, 1944 103 °F) (June 26, 1952 104 °F ) June 2010 also had 19 days of 90 °F or hotter temperatures the record was 20 in 1943. The Richmond International Airport reported the mean temperature for June was 81.1 °F which was a new 113 year record. This breaks the old record of 79.2 °F set in 1943 and was a +8.7 °F departure from average. June had 8 new daily temperature records and all were for heat.  (Ref. Richmond Weather Records - KRIC)

2010: Richmond, Virginia, set record for the most days in June reaching 102 degrees F (June 24, 27, and 28). (Ref. Weatherwise U.S. Weather Highlights of 2010 page 8 )

Some of Richmond's hottest summers were also ours, fascinating how this kind of intense early heat was a harbinger of things to come in many of these historic summers....

 

Records:

Highs:

EWR: 99 (2021)
NYC: 96 (1991)
LGA: 96 (2021)
JFK: 98 (2010)

2010: The maximum temperature today at the Richmond International Airport was 102 °F which not only broke the record high temperature for the date, but was close to the 104 °F record maximum for the month of June. Both June 27th and 28th had a maximum temperature 102 °F. Richmond has never had back to back 100 °F plus days before in June.  Only three June days have been hotter: (June 30, 1937 103 °F) (June 19, 1944 103 °F) (June 26, 1952 104 °F ) June 2010 also had 19 days of 90 °F or hotter temperatures the record was 20 in 1943. The Richmond International Airport reported the mean temperature for June was 81.1 °F which was a new 113 year record. This breaks the old record of 79.2 °F set in 1943 and was a +8.7 °F departure from average. June had 8 new daily temperature records and all were for heat.  (Ref. Richmond Weather Records - KRIC)

2010: Richmond, Virginia, set record for the most days in June reaching 102 degrees F (June 24, 27, and 28). (Ref. Weatherwise U.S. Weather Highlights of 2010 page 8 )

 

also looks like the extensive heat of 1980 started in Texas around this time before moving north and east.

 

1980 - The temperature at Wichita Falls, TX, soared to 117 degrees, their hottest reading of record. Daily highs were 110 degrees or above between the 24th of June and the 3rd of July. (The Weather Channel)

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, models starting  to show a retrogression pattern. A piece of the Plains heat may try to come east in early July for a few days in the mid to perhaps upper 90s. But if the ridge axis remains west, then it won’t be nearly as hot as this last week was. That would follow the more historic precedent of no follow ups above 103° so soon. So maybe 95° to 99° for a day or two before the ridge pulls back. Then it’s possible that the WAR retrogrades in mid to late July with more 95° to 100° heat here. But hopefully nothing as strong as we just saw in late June. 

Didn't 1966 have multiple 100+ degree heatwaves in quick succession? Based on the records, I counted three of them in less than 4 weeks.

[LibertyBell]

2 hours ago, bluewave said:

Beautiful collection of photos. There is so much Brooklyn history there going back to the Dutch settlement. The neighborhoods from around Prospect Park back to through your area up to Williamsburg contain some of the most sough-after urban real estate in the United States. I was able to find a great old photo from the Blizzard of 1888.

https://www.brownstoner.com/history/blizzard-1888-new-york-brooklyn-snow-storm-history-environmental-subway/

 

Out in the snow in Cobble Hill, possibly Clinton Street near Amity Street. Photo via Brooklyn Public Library

 

 

I grew up near Prospect Park, and spent my weekends playing frisbee in there growing up :-)

 

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, models starting  to show a retrogression pattern. A piece of the Plains heat may try to come east in early July for a few days in the mid to perhaps upper 90s. But if the ridge axis remains west, then it won’t be nearly as hot as this last week was. That would follow the more historic precedent of no follow ups above 103° so soon. So maybe 95° to 99° for a day or two before the ridge pulls back. Then it’s possible that the WAR retrogrades in mid to late July with more 95° to 100° heat here. But hopefully nothing as strong as we just saw in late June. 

it might as well hit 100, there is no perceptible difference between 98, 99, 100....

 

[SnoSki14]

2 hours ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, models starting  to show a retrogression pattern. A piece of the Plains heat may try to come east in early July for a few days in the mid to perhaps upper 90s. But if the ridge axis remains west, then it won’t be nearly as hot as this last week was. That would follow the more historic precedent of no follow ups above 103° so soon. So maybe 95° to 99° for a day or two before the ridge pulls back. Then it’s possible that the WAR retrogrades in mid to late July with more 95° to 100° heat here. But hopefully nothing as strong as we just saw in late June. 

I hope we don't repeat because that was brutal. Working outside was not fun those days, I don't know how southern folks deal with this 

[FPizz]

Top 5 low high in ttn yesterday (68) for the date. Impressive given where we were a few days ago.  

[LibertyBell]

11 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said:

I hope we don't repeat because that was brutal. Working outside was not fun those days, I don't know how southern folks deal with this 

There is no perceptible difference between 98, 99 and 100 degrees.  So if it's going to be 98-99 it might as well be 100.  105+ etc isn't necessary.

[SACRUS]

 

70 / 69 , stingy clouds helding on.

[SACRUS]

1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

There is no perceptible difference between 98, 99 and 100 degrees.  So if it's going to be 98-99 it might as well be 100.  105+ etc isn't necessary.

If we were a metric country we'd have our 32.2C days and 37.7 C days

[LibertyBell]

1 minute ago, SACRUS said:

If we were a metric country we'd have our 32.2C days and 37.7 C days

Indeed- that's why I cherished getting over 40C/104F on the 24th lol.

The other thing I like is how C and F are the same at -40 !!!!

[LibertyBell]

43 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

70 / 69 , stingy clouds helding on.

it's brightening up now, Tony :-)

[bluewave]

1 hour ago, SnoSki14 said:

I hope we don't repeat because that was brutal. Working outside was not fun those days, I don't know how southern folks deal with this 

Yeah, working outside in that type of heat is brutal. I rode a few miles on the Long Beach Boardwalk back in July 1999 with 100° and a 75° dewpoint. It was pretty intense. But I actually enjoyed the 0° with 50 mph gusts in January 1985 more. 
 

[LibertyBell]

15 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, working outside in that type of heat is brutal. I rode a few miles on the Long Beach Boardwalk back in July 1999 with 100° and a 75° dewpoint. It was pretty intense. But I actually enjoyed the 0° with 50 mph gusts in January 1985 more. 
 

That was one of our last really great summers, the heat in 1999 almost matched 1953 in terms of longevity, truly a summer to treasure. I was disappointed that JFK only reached 100+ once (102 on the 5th), which is why I rank 2010 higher and completely unmatched (1966 had as many 100+ days but the heat didn't continue into August and September like it did in 2010.) However in terms of longevity of heatwaves 1999 is only exceeded by 1953. I don't believe it's a coincidence that we have an 11 year return period for the peak of extreme heat (1944, 1955, 1966, 1977, 1988, 1999, 2010.) 

Of course if you want to feel cool, Chris, all you need to do is jump in the water

 

[donsutherland1]

While parts of the area await the sun's breaking through the clouds, here's a distribution of high temperatures based on New York City's climate record when the low temperature was 63°. The NBM forecast range is in red and the forecast value is dark brown.

[LibertyBell]

1 minute ago, donsutherland1 said:

While parts of the area await the sun's breaking through the clouds, here's a distribution of high temperatures based on New York City's climate record when the low temperature was 63°. The NBM forecast range is in red and the forecast value is dark brown.

The sun is here and I see large patches of blue skies now Don :-)

[SACRUS]

 

Onshore has ceased a.  74 / 69 brightening skies