June 2025 discussion-obs: Summerlike

[uofmiami]

Just now, LibertyBell said:

Diesel? That should have been retired years ago.  Serves them right to use ancient fuel.

There are still parts of the LIRR not electrified. Port Jefferson & Oyster Bay branches, so diesel is used. 

[LibertyBell]

1 minute ago, uofmiami said:

There are still parts of the LIRR not electrified. Port Jefferson & Oyster Bay branches, so diesel is used. 

I've seen those trains, they are the ones that make those loud bell like sounds that make me think I'm back in the 1800s lol.

[JustinRP37]

3 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Diesel? That should have been retired years ago.  Serves them right to use ancient highly polluting fuel.

Most of the branch lines are diesel. Hudson line from Croton to Poughkeepsie, Southeast to Wassaic, Danbury branch, Waterbury branch, and the Hartford line are all diesel. We are getting new Siemens locomotives too. 

[SACRUS]

8 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

Most recent June heat coming around the same time or 99 or higher heatwaves

 

2024

EWR:

6/17: 92
6/18: 91
6/19: 93
6/20: 97
6/21: 100
6/22: 95 
6/23: 99
6/24: 84
6/25: 94 
6/26 : 98 

 

2021

 

EWR:

6/27:  95
6/28: 99 
6/29: 102
6/30: 103

 

2017:

EWR:

6/11: 94
6/12: 97 
6/13: 99

 

2012:

EWR:

6/20: 98 
6/21: 99 
6/22:  96


 

2011:

EWR:

6/7:  92 
6/8: 99 
6/9:  102

 

 

2008:

EWR:

6/7: 97
6/8: 96 
6/9: 99 
6/10: 99

 

 

 

 

Added back to 2008

[winterwarlock]

.98 4 day total 

 

More mist and dreary

 

Make it stop

 

62 degrees

[LibertyBell]

3 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

Added back to 2008

it's interesting that Newark hit as high as 103 and none of us east of the Hudson even hit 98

[LibertyBell]

Just now, winterwarlock said:

.98 4 day total 

 

More mist and dreary

 

Make it stop

 

62 degrees

Yes this sucks, even though this is an inconvenience for us, people are dying a few states away from flash flooding.

 

[SACRUS]

9 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

it's interesting that Newark hit as high as 103 and none of us east of the Hudson even hit 98

 

2021:

LGA:

6/28: 96
6/29: 98 
6/30:  100

 

2017

LGA:

6/11: 94 
6/12: 96 
6/13:  101

[LibertyBell]

1 minute ago, SACRUS said:

 

2021:

LGA:

6/28: 96
6/29: 98 
6/30:  100

LGA heat issues lol

[SACRUS]

Just now, LibertyBell said:

LGA heat issues lol

 

2021:

LGA:

6/28: 96
6/29: 98 
6/30:  100

[LibertyBell]

2 minutes ago, Sundog said:

You can hire the best engineers in the world, when the area "officials" tell them how much their plans would cost, they will laugh and go back home. Grift and fleece

That's the real problem.  And why is it going to cost so much? Prices are inflated here.

[steve392]

33 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

100 degrees is just as exciting as 20 inches of snow.  Most people are number geeks and love seeing exceptional numbers.

100 degree's is not exciting as 20 inches of snow, no f'ing way!!!! LOL

[LibertyBell]

Just now, steve392 said:

100 degree's is not exciting as 20 inches of snow, no f'ing way!!!! LOL

I start watching my digital thermometer and start doing a countdown as soon as it reaches 99.0 lol

 

[jm1220]

Please move the political/bickering stuff somewhere else. 

[Sundog]

2 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

Please move the political/bickering stuff somewhere else. 

The grid conversation was kind of on topic I think, it is directly related to the record heat we are anticipating. 

Trust me I'd much rather talk about mist and clouds than 108 degrees lol

 

[LibertyBell]

5 minutes ago, Sundog said:

The grid conversation was kind of on topic I think, it is directly related to the record heat we are anticipating. 

Trust me I'd much rather talk about mist and clouds than 108 degrees lol

 

Yeah infrastructure is not really political, I think everyone agrees that needs to change.

Let's get the grid conversation now because in a few days none of us might have power to do it then lol.

 

[Sundog]

9 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

Yeah infrastructure is not really political, I think everyone agrees that needs to change.

Let's get the grid conversation now because in a few days none of us might have power to do it then lol.

 

 

My wife said to fill up the cars with gas just in case we have to sit in there with the car AC if the power goes out lol 

I can't think of another conversation I'd rather not have more than that one haha

 

[LibertyBell]

8 minutes ago, Sundog said:

 

My wife said to fill up the cars with gas just in case we have to sit in there with the car AC if the power goes out lol 

I can't think of another conversation I'd rather not have more than that one haha

 

I'm trying to remember all the most uncomfortable times my power went out.  Number 1 would have to be August 2003 when we had that massive power outage that covered 1/3 of the country and eastern Canada.  Our second longest power outage (behind the one that came with Sandy) at 13 hours.  It was the hottest day of the entire summer (95 degrees) and no breeze even at night.  I was too young to remember July 1977 but I think that would have been first if I had any memories of it outside of sitting in the dark with my family and hearing lots of sirens outside.

Next up would be a 4 hour power outage we had in January 2018 I think it was.  I was getting ready to see a total lunar eclipse at 11:30 that night and it was brutally cold and very windy and the power went out right after sunset and it stayed out until 11 PM.  The high winds did it and I was freezing for hours without power.  The wind came right into my house.

Next on the list is November a few years ago (I forget the year), when we had 8 tornadoes in one day on Long Island.  One of the tornadoes (an EF2) was close by-- I never saw it-- but had no power for 4 hours and was shivering all afternoon.  The power came back around sunset.

Next would be Sandy in October 2012 which was our longest power outage (25 hours) I was shivering all night.  The next day wasn't so bad without any power all day, because it came back around sunset.

Next is last August when I lost power for 4 hours again when it was sunny outside, no bad weather at all.  It was in the low to mid 80s and with a light wind it felt hot without any a/c.

Next would be March 2018 my power went out for 2 hours during the first of four noreasters that month.  It wasn't as bad as the other ones I listed because the power came back pretty quickly.

[bluewave]

52 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

it's interesting that Newark hit as high as 103 and none of us east of the Hudson even hit 98

The NYC micronet had multiple 100° and warmer readings back in June 2021. But there was a strong sea breeze so the shoreline was much cooler. Models still outside the reliable range for details of where the sea breeze front and compressional warming just to the NW of the front will set up next week.

Date:6-30-2021

Station Comparison Summary

Date:

 

 Previous DayNext Day 

 

 Previous DayNext Day 

* Indicates incomplete record. If more than 10% of data are missing, no value will be displayed.

	Air Temperature (°F)			Heat / Chill (°F)		Humidity (%)		Precipitation (in)	Wind Speed (mph)		Solar
Station	Max	Min	Avg	Max	Min	Max	Min	Liquid	Peak Gust	Peak 5m Avg	Integrated
13th St./16th / Alphabet City	101	75	90	107	75	91	35	0.40	26 9:10pm	11 9:10pm	25.9
160 Ave. / Howard Beach	91	76	83	102	76	89	51	0.08
28th St. / Chelsea	99	75	89	103	75	94	35	0.98	30 8:50pm	13 9:05pm	20.4
Astoria	100	73	89	107	73	95	36	0.58	26 9:00pm	13 9:05pm	23.8
Bensonhurst / Mapleton	97	78	88	107	78	84	39	0.00			26.3
Bronx Mesonet	98	75	88	103	75	90	37	0.38	35 8:55pm	15 9:00pm	27.5
Brooklyn Mesonet	95	75	86	103	75	87	41	0.00	31 10:05pm	18 9:30pm	26.9
Brownsville	97	76	88	106	76	89	40	0.19
Corona	103	75	90	109	75	92	34	0.35
E 40th St. / Murray Hill	99	74	89	104	74	93	37	0.66
Fresh Kills	99	73	88	105	73	94	36	0.06	27 9:40pm

 

Glendale / Maspeth	99	74	89	107	74	93	37	0.33
Gold Street / Navy Yard	100	75	88	105	75	90	35	0.30	32 9:00pm	16 9:00pm	26.2
Lefferts / South Ozone Park	95	74	85	105	74	93	49	0.10
Manhattan Mesonet	97	73	87	102	73	94	39	0.98	35 8:45pm	19 8:50pm	21.6
Newtown / Long Island City	99	74	89	104	74	90	36	0.25	25 9:10pm	11 5:55pm	24.3
Queens Mesonet	94	73	86	103	73	92	45	0.27	38 9:05pm	20 9:10pm	24.0
Queensbridge / Dutch Kills	100	74	90	105	74	95	34	0.63			19.5
Staten Island Mesonet	97	72	86	104	72	94	40	0.12	36 9:40pm	17 9:40pm	24.2
TLC Center	97	73	87	101	73	94	38	0.64	26 8:50pm	11 9:55pm	23.6
Tremont / Van Nest	103	75	90	110	75	92	32	0.45	24 8:50pm	12 5:05pm

 

[LibertyBell]

2 minutes ago, bluewave said:

The NYC micronet had multiple 100° and warmer readings back in June 2021. But there was a strong sea breeze so the shoreline was much cooler. Models still outside the reliable range for details of where the sea breeze front and compressional warming just to the NW of the front will set up next week.

Date:

 

 Previous DayNext Day 

* Indicates incomplete record. If more than 10% of data are missing, no value will be displayed.

	Air Temperature (°F)			Heat / Chill (°F)		Humidity (%)		Precipitation (in)	Wind Speed (mph)		Solar
Station	Max	Min	Avg	Max	Min	Max	Min	Liquid	Peak Gust	Peak 5m Avg	Integrated
13th St./16th / Alphabet City	101	75	90	107	75	91	35	0.40	26 9:10pm	11 9:10pm	25.9
160 Ave. / Howard Beach	91	76	83	102	76	89	51	0.08
28th St. / Chelsea	99	75	89	103	75	94	35	0.98	30 8:50pm	13 9:05pm	20.4
Astoria	100	73	89	107	73	95	36	0.58	26 9:00pm	13 9:05pm	23.8
Bensonhurst / Mapleton	97	78	88	107	78	84	39	0.00			26.3
Bronx Mesonet	98	75	88	103	75	90	37	0.38	35 8:55pm	15 9:00pm	27.5
Brooklyn Mesonet	95	75	86	103	75	87	41	0.00	31 10:05pm	18 9:30pm	26.9
Brownsville	97	76	88	106	76	89	40	0.19
Corona	103	75	90	109	75	92	34	0.35
E 40th St. / Murray Hill	99	74	89	104	74	93	37	0.66
Fresh Kills	99	73	88	105	73	94	36	0.06	27 9:40pm

 

Glendale / Maspeth	99	74	89	107	74	93	37	0.33
Gold Street / Navy Yard	100	75	88	105	75	90	35	0.30	32 9:00pm	16 9:00pm	26.2
Lefferts / South Ozone Park	95	74	85	105	74	93	49	0.10
Manhattan Mesonet	97	73	87	102	73	94	39	0.98	35 8:45pm	19 8:50pm	21.6
Newtown / Long Island City	99	74	89	104	74	90	36	0.25	25 9:10pm	11 5:55pm	24.3
Queens Mesonet	94	73	86	103	73	92	45	0.27	38 9:05pm	20 9:10pm	24.0
Queensbridge / Dutch Kills	100	74	90	105	74	95	34	0.63			19.5
Staten Island Mesonet	97	72	86	104	72	94	40	0.12	36 9:40pm	17 9:40pm	24.2
TLC Center	97	73	87	101	73	94	38	0.64	26 8:50pm	11 9:55pm	23.6
Tremont / Van Nest	103	75	90	110	75	92	32	0.45	24 8:50pm	12 5:05pm

 

Yes thats why NYC and JFK were not close to 100..... if we do get a seabreeze next week, this area would be great for compressional heating as I'm about 2 miles north of the barrier islands.

 

[Sundog]

2 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

I'm trying to remember all the most uncomfortable times my power went out.  Number 1 would have to be August 2003 when we had that massive power outage that covered 1/3 of the country and eastern Canada.  It was the hottest day of the entire summer (95 degrees) and no breeze even at night.  I was too young to remember July 1977 but I think that would have been first if I had any memories of it outside of sitting in the dark with my family and hearing lots of sirens outside.

Next up would be a 4 hour power outage we had in January 2018 I think it was.  I was getting ready to see a total lunar eclipse at 11:30 that night and it was brutally cold and very windy and the power went out right after sunset and it stayed out until 11 PM.  The high winds did it and I was freezing for hours without power.  The wind came right into my house.

Next on the list is November a few years ago (I forget the year), when we had 8 tornadoes in one day on Long Island.  One of the tornadoes (an EF2) was close by-- I never saw it-- but had no power for 4 hours and was shivering all afternoon.  The power came back around sunset.

Next is last August when I lost power for 4 hours again when it was sunny outside, no bad weather at all.  It was in the low to mid 80s and with a light wind it felt hot without any a/c.

Next would be March 2018 my power went out for 2 hours during the first of four noreasters that month.  It wasn't as bad as the other ones I listed because the power came back pretty quickly.

I was in Greece summer 2003 so I missed the blackout.

However, the summers I was here growing up, I used to live in central Queens where ConEd would lower the voltage to the point where our AC compressor wouldn't even turn on. It was a 220V machine. Every time it got really hot, the AC wouldn't do it damned job. Thanks ConEd! Astronomical bills well deserved. 

[LibertyBell]

5 minutes ago, Sundog said:

I was in Greece summer 2003 so I missed the blackout.

However, the summers I was here growing up, I used to live in central Queens where ConEd would lower the voltage to the point where our AC compressor wouldn't even turn on. It was a 220V machine. Every time it got really hot, the AC wouldn't do it damned job. Thanks ConEd! Astronomical bills well deserved. 

Thats very dangerous and why I have UPS set up in my house.  Expensive electronic equipment can get fried when they lower the voltage.  I haven't even listed the times that happened, but about 25 years ago, when I only used surge protectors and not UPS, one of my computers fried (literally, I smelled burning rubber inside) during an undervoltage event associated with a thunderstorm.  And it's happened numerous other times not even associated with any bad weather at all, but I've always had UPS systems since that first disaster that I used my homeowner's insurance to pay for.

 

[qg_omega]

Can we 5 post liberty?  Makes these threads extremely hard to read

[FPizz]

12 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

I'm trying to remember all the most uncomfortable times my power went out.  Number 1 would have to be August 2003 when we had that massive power outage that covered 1/3 of the country and eastern Canada.  Our second longest power outage (behind the one that came with Sandy) at 13 hours.  It was the hottest day of the entire summer (95 degrees) and no breeze even at night.  I was too young to remember July 1977 but I think that would have been first if I had any memories of it outside of sitting in the dark with my family and hearing lots of sirens outside.

Next up would be a 4 hour power outage we had in January 2018 I think it was.  I was getting ready to see a total lunar eclipse at 11:30 that night and it was brutally cold and very windy and the power went out right after sunset and it stayed out until 11 PM.  The high winds did it and I was freezing for hours without power.  The wind came right into my house.

Next on the list is November a few years ago (I forget the year), when we had 8 tornadoes in one day on Long Island.  One of the tornadoes (an EF2) was close by-- I never saw it-- but had no power for 4 hours and was shivering all afternoon.  The power came back around sunset.

Next would be Sandy in October 2012 which was our longest power outage (25 hours) I was shivering all night.  The next day wasn't so bad without any power all day, because it came back around sunset.

Next is last August when I lost power for 4 hours again when it was sunny outside, no bad weather at all.  It was in the low to mid 80s and with a light wind it felt hot without any a/c.

Next would be March 2018 my power went out for 2 hours during the first of four noreasters that month.  It wasn't as bad as the other ones I listed because the power came back pretty quickly.

Pretty sure my power never went out because of heat, storms yes, that's why I got a generac. Can't have my basement flood again.  

[Sundog]

Just now, qg_omega said:

Can we 5 post liberty?  Makes these threads extremely hard to read

Nah, if you did that you'd be done readng in 30 seconds for a full day's posts. What's the point of restricting posting during what is a weather forum's traditional "low season?"

[MJO812]

Im wearing a hoodie right now

Love this cool weather

[LibertyBell]

11 minutes ago, qg_omega said:

Can we 5 post liberty?  Makes these threads extremely hard to read

No one is forcing you to read, maybe you're just not that literate. Or it's sour grapes because you've been 5 posted for trolling snow weenies.

[Sundog]

3 minutes ago, FPizz said:

Pretty sure my power never went out because of heat, storms yes, that's why I got a generac. Can't have my basement flood again.  

Where I live now up until about 10 years ago if so much as a pigeon landed on the power lines my power would go out. Luckily they fixed that. 

[LibertyBell]

10 minutes ago, Sundog said:

Nah, if you did that you'd be done readng in 30 seconds for a full day's posts. What's the point of restricting posting during what is a weather forum's traditional "low season?"

He never posts anything useful anyway, he just trolls snow weenies.  That's why he's been 5 posted and bitter We already have snowman19 for that lol.

[LibertyBell]

Just now, Sundog said:

Where I live now up until about 10 years ago if so much as a pigeon landed on the power lines my power would go out. Luckily they fixed that. 

How did they fix it, did they put your power lines underground?