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2025 ENSO/Winter Speculation


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3 hours ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

CANSIPS did a good job last year.

At least the CANSIPS shows the expected variability of temps/weather. I’ve found the CFS is always too warm, even when it’s correct on it being warm, and it doesn’t show much below average anomalies. Even in a climate where we expect places to be warmer, there is usually places that end up cooler as well. The CANSIPS seems to illustrate that premise.

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Just looked at the CANSIPS. Boy that would be nice.

The CFS always seems to show scorched earth. It's interesting that despite the heights being not much BN if at all on the CANSIPS, the surface temps are fairly cold. It might be due to snowpack.

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17 hours ago, Typhoon Tip said:

Blend that last 7 winters + some factor of warmer

done

Somewhere in there is a bit of irony when considering the average amount of time you put into the most quotidian of responses on this forum.

Anyway, perhaps there is a bit of sarcasm at play, but I am of the option that the larger scale Pacific pattern is in a state of flux, so I'm not at all confident its gong to be very warm relative to the latest 30 year climo period.

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6 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

If we do maintain coolish ENSO this year, don't sleep on 2000-2001 as a contender next season...take a deep dive into the prominent +PNA in the respective seasonal means that burst onto the scene to lower the curtain on a robust Pacific cold phase each in case. QBO seems to aligning well, too. If its warmish ENSO, there were obviously some similarities to 2013-2014 this past season, despite the east coast screwgie on snowfall. The QBO also looks to align with 2014, which just so happened to herald in a warm Pacific interlude following a potent cold phase that began in 2010.

No...I don't expect 130" of snowfall in Worcester, MA or 100" in 30 days in Boston, so lets get that out of the way before the bun assault ensues....the validity of the 2013-2014 analog last year was a wonderful lesson in the value of an analog despite some notable differences in sensble weather for particular regions, especially with regard to high variance elements such as snowfall.

 

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Is this the best source out there for precipitation anomalies?

https://psl.noaa.gov/data/usclimdivs/

I wish something was available here https://psl.noaa.gov/data/atmoswrit/map/ 

to create custom climatology periods. 

https://psl.noaa.gov/data/usclimdivs/ offers several climatological periods but I wish they had a long-term one that went through at least 2010. 1895-2000 is great for a very long-term but wish it went through 2010. 1951-2010 is also solid but wish it started back farther lol. 

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5 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

Is this the best source out there for precipitation anomalies?

https://psl.noaa.gov/data/usclimdivs/

I wish something was available here https://psl.noaa.gov/data/atmoswrit/map/ 

to create custom climatology periods. 

https://psl.noaa.gov/data/usclimdivs/ offers several climatological periods but I wish they had a long-term one that went through at least 2010. 1895-2000 is great for a very long-term but wish it went through 2010. 1951-2010 is also solid but wish it started back farther lol. 

You can use precipitation rate for the middle one..I use it before the other tool updates when I do monthly recaps.

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15 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said:

You can use precipitation rate for the middle one..I use it before the other tool updates when I do monthly recaps.

Perfect, that was an option I was debating too. Ultimately, I'm not looking to get crazy or too much into the weeds with precipitation, just want to focus on "where it's wet" and "where its dry"

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