April 2024

[MJO812]

5 hours ago, SRRTA22 said:

I LOVE this type of weather. Mist, upper 40s and fog...there's something about it that I love but everyday.... absolutely not haha 

It's the same thing with cold wx...there's not one person on earth who could genuinely say.. "I love this 0 degree weather" 

As one poster said , it's all subjective. 

This weather is comfortable. You can walk around in a hoodie and it's also refreshing.

[jm1220]

6 hours ago, SRRTA22 said:

I LOVE this type of weather. Mist, upper 40s and fog...there's something about it that I love but everyday.... absolutely not haha 

It's the same thing with cold wx...there's not one person on earth who could genuinely say.. "I love this 0 degree weather" 

As one poster said , it's all subjective. 

I like the very cold weather only in terms of the snow it usually means. We don’t normally get cold anymore without a snowstorm involved. But both are very rare now. But yep-useless/wasted cold is also the worst. We’re not near the Great Lakes where that means LES bands. 

[bluewave]

11 hours ago, BucksCO_PA said:

Officially Philadelphia, Wilmington, Trenton, Allentown & Reading have not recorded 100 degrees since 2012, same as Central Park. A # of locations listed above are known warm bias sites, take for instance the Franklin Institute. Pic of that rooftop instrument shelter is attached. Any wonder why that location would run warm LOL. Newark is a joke and has been addressed on multiple occasions by the NJ State Climatologist. NE Philly & SJ Regional have been running out of tolerance warm for years.

You clearly lack consistency & need to treat the warm bias rooftops, helicopter pads, an ASOS next to miles of runway asphalt & 12 lanes of traffic.....garbage sites with the same degree of scrutiny as you do with the supposed vegetation issues at Central Park.

 

 

11 hours ago, BucksCO_PA said:

Officially Philadelphia, Wilmington, Trenton, Allentown & Reading have not recorded 100 degrees since 2012, same as Central Park. A # of locations listed above are known warm bias sites, take for instance the Franklin Institute. Pic of that rooftop instrument shelter is attached. Any wonder why that location would run warm LOL. Newark is a joke and has been addressed on multiple occasions by the NJ State Climatologist. NE Philly & SJ Regional have been running out of tolerance warm for years.

You clearly lack consistency & need to treat the warm bias rooftops, helicopter pads, an ASOS next to miles of runway asphalt & 12 lanes of traffic.....garbage sites with the same degree of scrutiny as you do with the supposed vegetation issues at Central Park.

 

You continue to mix apples and oranges in your comparisons. First, NYC is the only site in the region that is situated under shade trees and every other site gets direct sunlight. It’s well known that you don’t take temperatures under trees. Second, that Franklin institute rooftop site can run cooler than the street level sites as has been the case with the NYC micronet rooftop sites. Third, PHI runs cool since it’s situated in a swamp on the Delaware River at one of the widest points. Your argument about Newark holds no water since it’s actually been shown to run cooler than surrounding sites on days where it’s subject to sea breezes since it’s in a swampy area near the bay. Plus none of the sites other than NYC shows a summer high temperature cooling pattern while the minimums have been rising. So blocking solar radiation to any site with trees is going to taint your observations. Numerous sites have hit 100° around the region since 2012. The area approaching NE NJ is naturally warmer even if there was no urbanization due to a downsloping effect on a SW to W flow. While the temperature measurements from the 1930s were less reliable, the NJ state record was set in Runyon during the 1930s and is located in this  warmer corridor. So no urbanization was needed. It’s naturally a warmer part of the region than areas further to the SW due to typography alone. 

[SACRUS]

 

Low of 40 now to a partly sunny 51.Breaksin the clouds as onshore pushes west and main cloud deck slowly comes east.  Goes mostly cloudy later this morning in the areas where the sun is out now.  Mid - upper 50s. Cloudy this Saturday with drizzle as the front clear through. Nice Sunday - partly cloudy and 60s. Cooler week 4/22 - Fri 4/26, with just light rain.   Chilly Wed - Fri.   Next 70s and warmer with the warmup by next weekend 4/27 to close the month.  Watch for cut off / onshore into next month.  No sustained warmth beyond 3 days yet on the longer out there forecasts.

[SACRUS]

Last of the 30 degree readings Wed/Thu-Fri am (4/24 - 4/26)  next shot at 70s or 80 4/28-29?

[SACRUS]

 

Records:

 

Highs:

EWR: 92 (1976)
NYC: 92 (1976)
LGA: 85 (2002)
JFK: 84 (1985)


Lows:

 

EWR: 33 (2020)
NYC: 21 (1976)
LGA: 35 (1983)
JFK: 34 (2001)

 

Historical:

 

1775 - The first engagement of the Revolutionary War took place under clear crisp weather at Lexington-Concord. (Sandra and TI Richard Sanders - 1987)

 

1927: A deadly tornado outbreak occurred across the central part of Illinois, killing 21 people. The first tornado touched down near Hardin, traveling northeast through Carrollton, then skimmed the south side of Springfield. At Carrollton, a teacher was killed as she held the door of the school shut, saving the lives of her students. The second tornado, peaking at estimated F4 intensity, touched down on the southeast side of Springfield, then moved to affect the towns of Riverton, Buffalo Hart, Chestnut, and Cornland. In Buffalo Hart, only three houses were left standing, while the northern half of Cornland was leveled. The tornado track was 65 miles, ending in Ford County.

1941 - The temperature at Sodus, NY, soared to 95 degrees. The next day Albany, NY, reported a record for April of 93 degrees. (The Weather Channel)

1973 - Glenrock, WY, received 41 inches of snow in just 24 hours, and a storm total of 58 inches, to establish two state records. (18th-20th) (David Ludlum) (The Weather Channel)

1976 - The northeastern U.S. was in the midst of an early season heat wave, and the Boston Marathon took place in 90 degree heat. At Providence RI the mercury hit 98 degrees. (David Ludlum)

 

1986: A major storm system produced ten tornadoes in Texas. One of these tornadoes virtually annihilated the town of Sweetwater. The tornado struck at the unlikely time of 7:17 am. One person was killed, and 100 were injured. 

1987 - Forty cities in the central U.S. reported new record high temperatures for the date as readings soared into the 80s and lower 90s for Easter Sunday. Fort Smith AR reported a record high of 95 degrees. (The National Weather Summary)

1988 - Severe thunderstorms over the southeastern U.S. early in the day spawned a strong (F-3) tornado which destroyed seventeen homes and severely damaged thirty houses near Madison FL killing four persons and injuring eighteen others. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary)

1989 - A dozen cities in the southwestern U.S. reported new record high temperatures for the date. The afternoon high of 98 degrees at Hanksville UT equalled their record for April. Tucson AZ reported their earliest 100 degree reading of record. (The National Weather Summary)

1990 - Five cities in the northeastern U.S. reported record low temperatures for the date as readings dipped into the 20s and upper teens. Elkins WV reported a record low of 20 degrees. Thunderstorms over the Southern Plains produced golf ball size hail at San Angelo TX, and up to four inches of rain in southwestern Oklahoma. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1996 - One of the most memorable tornado outbreaks in Illinois history occurred on April 19, 1996. During the day, 33 tornadoes were reported as supercells erupted and moved across the state during the afternoon and evening hours. Wind estimates in excess of 170 mph were associated with some of the stronger tornadoes, one of which ripped through nearby Ogden, IL. (University of Illinois WW2010)

 

2006: An intense spring snowstorm swept across the Dakotas, dumping up to 5 feet of snow. The heaviest snow fell in the Black Hills, with 59.4 inches at Lead, SD. Bowman, ND reported 18 inches. The storm closed highways including I-94 in North Dakota, cutting power to thousands and was responsible for at least four deaths. Further west, 1 to 3 feet of snow and 50 to 60 mph winds caused drifts up to 10 feet, widespread power outages, and livestock losses.

[FPizz]

10 hours ago, JerseyWx said:

I really think that deep down, no one actually enjoys this 40 something degrees and damp weather for days on end.  I mean could understand the flip side, not liking 90 degree heat with humidity in summer, but it just seems some like to "troll" that we aren't seeing much nice weather.

I don't know.  I know in winter I love cloudy days with snow showers with the sun setting at 4:30.  If I can like that, I can see people liking cool damp days in Spring.  

[FPizz]

59 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

Low of 40 now to a partly sunny 51.Breaksin the clouds as onshore pushes west and main cloud deck slowly comes east.  Goes mostly cloudy later this morning in the areas where the sun is out now.  Mid - upper 50s. Cloudy this Saturday with drizzle as the front clear through. Nice Sunday - partly cloudy and 60s. Cooler week 4/22 - Fri 4/26, with just light rain.   Chilly Wed - Fri.   Next 70s and warmer with the warmup by next weekend 4/27 to close the month.  Watch for cut off / onshore into next month.  No sustained warmth beyond 3 days yet on the longer out there forecasts.

It was nice to see the sun for an hour or so.  Now back to clouds.

[JetsPens87]

9 hours ago, kat5hurricane said:

I don't think so. You really think Anthony is trolling? I genuinely believes he likes this weather, same with Hoodie Guy. He gets weenied and made fun of every time he says he likes this weather and it always baffled me. To each their own is what I say but that's just me, it's all in good fun I suppose.

Its just fun poking backing and forth. To each their own but literally no harm meant.

[JetsPens87]

2 hours ago, MJO812 said:

This weather is comfortable. You can walk around in a hoodie and it's also refreshing.

Could deal without the mist. And also those of us that have kids really need to appreciate the nice days we can actually take them out to do activities.

This weather really limits that and cabin fever especially for 2 year Olds is a real thing.

[bluewave]

21 minutes ago, FPizz said:

I don't know.  I know in winter I love cloudy days with snow showers with the sun setting at 4:30.  If I can like that, I can see people liking cool damp days in Spring.  

I really enjoyed the 2009 summer since it was still warm enough to go to the beach and boardwalk and it kept the beach crowds down in Long Beach. I was willing to put up with extra rainfall especially early on in June. 
 

Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

Rank	Ending Date	Mean Avg Temperature Jun 1 to Jul 31	Missing Count
1	1940-07-31	71.5	0
2	2009-07-31	71.6	0
3	1947-07-31	71.7	0
4	1936-07-31	72.0	0
5	1932-07-31	72.1	0

[SACRUS]

23 minutes ago, FPizz said:

It was nice to see the sun for an hour or so.  Now back to clouds.

 

All that cloud cover west of us will take through sat pm to clear east with more mist and showers and drizzle later tonight and sturday. Sunny Sunday fourth in a row.

 

 

[LibertyBell]

On 4/15/2024 at 1:09 PM, TheClimateChanger said:

Interesting. I don't see much evidence for this, but [assuming you are using data from first-order sites to draw this conclusion] it seems to coincide with the move to automated weather observing systems. 

Based on a study of 76 first-order sites from September 1, 1994 to August 31, 1995, ASOS averaged +0.79F COOLER* than the temperatures measured from conventional hygrothermometers - more specifically 0.90F COOLER for daytime maxima and 0.66F COOLER for overnight minima. Of the 76 sites studied, all but nine had a cooling bias with the installation of the ASOS. The study estimated +0.53F as a systemic bias, with an additional +0.37F bias due to improper solar shielding in the conventional hygrothermometer in the daytime, and an additional bias of +0.13F [but variable] for overnight temperatures resulting from the move of the station from sites close to airport buildings to more remote areas of the airport by the runways.

What's interesting to me if you look at the temperature traces from first order sites today, it's warmed so much that this step change of nearly 1F is not even detectable. Can't help but wonder if the change in instrumentation isn't at play here if the data truly shows a decrease in heatwave length. It's certainly WAY hotter nowadays than it used to be in the summertime.

Source: https://climate.colostate.edu/pdfs/climo_rpt_96_2.pdf

Edit: Sorry, originally had warmer here. Just got the comparison mixed up, should read cooler.

New York City mostly-- it's the one which lists the longest heatwaves and when they occurred (I'm chiefly concerned with heatwaves of 7 days and longer.)

Of course climate change is making the climate warmer, but the change is nonlinear.  It means higher lows but the highest temperatures are not as hot because we are also seeing an increase in water vapor, which makes the air more difficult to heat.  The energy of the sun then goes into drying the ground first before it can heat the air.

 

[LibertyBell]

On 4/15/2024 at 1:22 PM, TheClimateChanger said:

As a follow-up, this looks to be something specific to NYC (Central Park) ASOS. In addition to switching to an automated system at Central Park, they've also allowed a veritable jungle to encroach on the site in contravention of standard siting rules. So I would say it probably reflects a more substantial warm-season daytime cooling bias at NYC.

9 of the 20 longest streaks of 90+ at EWR are from the 21st century.

And 10 of 20 at LGA.

Yes, indeed it's about New York City.  Here on Long Island we've seen the same thing with the rapid increase in rainfall and wet summers, which blunt the high temperatures but make the lows warmer.

JFK is what I use for that data, where it goes back to the 40s and 50s when we had some of our longest heatwaves on record.

[LibertyBell]

On 4/15/2024 at 1:22 PM, TheClimateChanger said:

As a follow-up, this looks to be something specific to NYC (Central Park) ASOS. In addition to switching to an automated system at Central Park, they've also allowed a veritable jungle to encroach on the site in contravention of standard siting rules. So I would say it probably reflects a more substantial warm-season daytime cooling bias at NYC.

9 of the 20 longest streaks of 90+ at EWR are from the 21st century.

And 10 of 20 at LGA.

excellent-- LGA is very similar to JFK-- the top heatwaves are from 1953 and 2002.

 

[LibertyBell]

On 4/15/2024 at 1:01 PM, jm1220 said:

A few 80s in central Nassau and Queens. Sea breeze on radar looks like it’s around the Southern State. As you’d expect way cooler on the barrier islands. Absolutely perfect here-77. 

I enjoyed our 80 here, we were able to hold off the sea breeze until after 2 PM

[LibertyBell]

On 4/15/2024 at 12:57 PM, Stormlover74 said:

Ewr 81. First 80 of the year 

I thought it also hit 80 on April 9th?

[LibertyBell]

On 4/15/2024 at 1:59 PM, psv88 said:

80.6, no humidity and blue bird skies. 
 

 

 

even here the sea breeze held off until after 2 PM so we hit 80

On 4/15/2024 at 7:30 PM, jm1220 said:

Yup, was a pretty weak sauce seabreeze. Usually it drops fast and we get the full blown Ambrose Jet this time of year. 

 

[LibertyBell]

18 minutes ago, bluewave said:

I really enjoyed the 2009 summer since it was still warm enough to go to the beach and boardwalk and it kept the beach crowds down in Long Beach. I was willing to put up with extra rainfall especially early on in June. 
 

Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

Rank	Ending Date	Mean Avg Temperature Jun 1 to Jul 31	Missing Count
1	1940-07-31	71.5	0
2	2009-07-31	71.6	0
3	1947-07-31	71.7	0
4	1936-07-31	72.0	0
5	1932-07-31	72.1	0

I don't know how you can enjoy that without any records weather gets boring lol

[uofmiami]

2 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

I thought it also hit 80 on April 9th?

EWR only got to 77 then.

[LibertyBell]

45 minutes ago, FPizz said:

I don't know.  I know in winter I love cloudy days with snow showers with the sun setting at 4:30.  If I can like that, I can see people liking cool damp days in Spring.  

No, thats not it.  It's the endless days of cool rainy cloudy weather that sucks.  I love it when it's sunny for 7 days in a row and then it can be cool and rainy for a couple of days.  It's nice to see when it doesn't happen too often.

 

[LibertyBell]

11 hours ago, JerseyWx said:

I really think that deep down, no one actually enjoys this 40 something degrees and damp weather for days on end.  I mean could understand the flip side, not liking 90 degree heat with humidity in summer, but it just seems some like to "troll" that we aren't seeing much nice weather.

It's this kind of weather that makes me wish we spent a trillion dollars on engineering the climate.

But since the sun has been out this morning here it's okay

 

[bluewave]

15 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

I don't know how you can enjoy that without any records weather gets boring lol

It was the only June and July on record with the average high under 80° at Newark. Very unusual summer for the modern era. As soon as the pattern began to warm in August Central Park got that big microburst.

 

[SACRUS]

10 minutes ago, bluewave said:

It was the only June and July on record with the average high under 80° at Newark. Very unusual summer for the modern era. As soon as the pattern began to warm in August Central Park got that big microburst.

 

 

96, 2000, 2003 also had to be close.

[LibertyBell]

16 minutes ago, bluewave said:

It was the only June and July on record with the average high under 80° at Newark. Very unusual summer for the modern era. As soon as the pattern began to warm in August Central Park got that big microburst.

 

I remember this, we had an amazing couple of years of severe weather in 2009 and 2010 and we had a lot of blocking in the winter which gave us our snowiest winter couplet in recorded history.  Is there a connection between the two?

 

[LibertyBell]

6 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

96, 2000, 2003 also had to be close.

In the 1990s they were sandwiched between some super hot summers so that made a difference

1991-- extremely hot, record number of 90 degree days

1992-- extremely cool and rainy Pinatubo summer (?)

1993-- back to record heat and record number of 90 and 100 degree days

1995-- very dry and very hot, lots of fires

1996-- very humid but not a hot summer, we had a 2 day streak of heat in May and then didn't hit 90 again until for just one day on the last day of August.

1999-- back to record heat, record hot July (record broken in 2010)

2002-- very hot and dry 3 day heatwave in April matched 1977 but in complete opposition to that year we went to a very hot and dry summer, JFK's hottest since 1983 and hottest until 2010.

 

 

[LibertyBell]

21 minutes ago, bluewave said:

It was the only June and July on record with the average high under 80° at Newark. Very unusual summer for the modern era. As soon as the pattern began to warm in August Central Park got that big microburst.

 

What was the year we had that big severe weather outbreak on my birthday (September 15th)?

 

[FPizz]

33 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

No, thats not it.  It's the endless days of cool rainy cloudy weather that sucks.  I love it when it's sunny for 7 days in a row and then it can be cool and rainy for a couple of days.  It's nice to see when it doesn't happen too often.

 

I'm hoping this May is a repeat of last May.  I think we only had 1 total rainout.  Looking at my solar system, last May had its highest kWh output since the system was installed in 2012.  

[bluewave]

16 minutes ago, SACRUS said:

 

96, 2000, 2003 also had to be close.

They were a few degrees warmer for the high temperatures.

 

Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ
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Rank	Ending Date	Mean Max Temperature Jun 1 to Jul 31	Missing Count
1	2009-07-31	79.8	0
2	1969-07-31	80.8	0
3	1972-07-31	80.9	0
4	1985-07-31	81.0	0
-	1979-07-31	81.0	0
-	1958-07-31	81.0	0
5	1996-07-31	81.3	0
-	1947-07-31	81.3	0
6	2000-07-31	81.4	0
-	1945-07-31	81.4	0
7	2003-07-31	81.5	0
-	1936-07-31	81.5	0
8	1956-07-31	81.6	0
9	1967-07-31	81.7	0
10	1982-07-31	81.8	0

 

 

Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.

Rank	Ending Date	Highest Max Temperature Jun 1 to Jul 31	Missing Count
1	2009-07-31	91	0
2	1996-07-31	92	0
-	1979-07-31	92	0
-	1960-07-31	92	0
3	1976-07-31	93	0
-	1970-07-31	93	0
4	1985-07-31	94	0
-	1975-07-31	94	0
-	1939-07-31	94	0
-	1938-07-31	94	0
5	2003-07-31	95	0
-	1973-07-31	95	0
-	1967-07-31	95	0
-	1946-07-31	95	0

 

[MJO812]