New England snowstorm memories.

[The 4 Seasons]

3 minutes ago, dendrite said:

80s for highs days before and a lot of the snow accumulated during the day for ORH.

Toss those sun angle arguments long and far if you have the temps and rates. 

and if you dont, you can still get white rain in Dec/Jan with a very low sun angle just because temps/rates were not good. Jan 2006 i was in the mid 30s with not great rates but it snowed all day and accumulated like a 1:1 inch of pure clear slush. Crazy elevation event here in CT. Some reports within the same town varied from 1-12"

[vortex95]

3 minutes ago, dendrite said:

80s for highs days before and a lot of the snow accumulated during the day for ORH.

Toss those sun angle arguments long and far if you have the temps and rates. 

And I am so sick of OCMs and other people saying before any out-of-season event, "the ground is too warm!"  FALSE!  Sure, at the start if the snow it is, but once intensity picks up and you get relentless phase change cooling from the melting snowflakes on the ground, the warm issue goes away very quickly!
 

And in other parts of the country, it is even more extreme.  Early Sep 1993, DEN was 92 for a high one day, and the next day they had 5" of snow.  And this:

4/9/1988
Residents of Sioux City, Iowa awoke to find 2 inches of snow on
the ground following a record high of 88 degrees the previous
afternoon.

[SJonesWX]

1 hour ago, dendrite said:

I had 25” in Auburn, NH as a final event depth…no clearing.

that area down and over to Dover got smoked in that storm

[vortex95]

3 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said:

and if you dont, you can still get white rain in Dec/Jan with a very low sun angle just because temps/rates were not good. Jan 2006 i was in the mid 30s with not great rates but it snowed all day and accumulated like a 1:1 inch of pure clear slush. Crazy elevation event here in CT. Some reports within the same town varied from 1-12"

"White rain"  LOL.  Reminds of what ski areas say when it rains, "LIQUID SNOW!" 

I recall one time it was -RA in CLE and the 1000-500 thickness was 525.  That's impressive for lower elevations. Partial thicknesses count!  Can't use the 1000-500 layer in a vacuum.  540 works best for low elevations.

[The 4 Seasons]

14 minutes ago, vortex95 said:

"White rain"  LOL.  Reminds of what ski areas say when it rains, "LIQUID SNOW!" 

I recall one time it was -RA in CLE and the 1000-500 thickness was 525.  That's impressive for lower elevations. Partial thicknesses count!  Can't use the 1000-500 layer in a vacuum.  540 works best for low elevations.

lol you never heard that term before? i know you've had to. Snow that falls but doesnt accumulate, might as well be rain. hence, white rain. 

[vortex95]

4 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said:

lol you never heard that term before? i know you've had to. Snow that falls but doesnt accumulate, might as well be rain. hence, white rain. 

I honestly have not heard it before this term, but you learn something new every day, even in your field of expertise.

How about this? -- "noddles."  They are raindrops that still have some slush left in them, and you get "cats paws" on the car windshield!

[The 4 Seasons]

2 minutes ago, vortex95 said:

I honestly have not heard it before this term, but you learn something new every day, even in your field of expertise.

How about this? -- "noddles."  They are raindrops that still have some slush left in them, and you get "cats paws" on the car windshield!

interesting never heard that before.

Yeah, white rain is a common term on here. It's the worst. 

[Ginx snewx]

1 hour ago, vortex95 said:

I honestly have not heard it before this term, but you learn something new every day, even in your field of expertise.

How about this? -- "noddles."  They are raindrops that still have some slush left in them, and you get "cats paws" on the car windshield!

"NCP" non crystallized precipitation was often used in ski area reports 

[vortex95]

21 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

"NCP" non crystallized precipitation was often used in ski area reports 

Ooo, make it sound "techy" or arcane as if that makes them appear "in the know" about types of precip. 

It's all just doublespeak, plain and simple!  Yes, I get the business and marketing aspect of it, but deceiving people and insulting their intelligence is not a good thing from a societal POV.