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42 minutes ago, madwx said:

Language like this leads to violence against minorities like you saw in Georgia. If you have any decency you should stop using it 

Not going to comment on that specific case, but there have definitely been ramifications from calling this the "China virus." 

I have seen the argument that there is some history of naming diseases based on where the initial cases showed up, such as Lyme Disease and Saint Louis encephalitis.  Then there's the big one -- the Spanish Flu -- which didn't even originate there.  Perhaps we shouldn't have given those names to those diseases, but it's kinda tough to go back decades and undo that.  It is difficult to ascribe any innocent motive to calling this the "China virus."  It was never called that in an official capacity, and it is easy enough to just say coronavirus, covid, covid-19, SARS-CoV2.  It's not some 20 letter word that is hard to remember.   

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Thelawyercraig guy on twitter has started adding Michigan numbers due to their increase.  This is a good example of when cases increase by a large enough amount, it is still going to result in more people going to the hospital, even though many older/vulnerable have been vaccinated.  As time goes on and even more individuals are vaccinated, it should require an even greater increase in case numbers to result in higher hospitalizations.

 

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8 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

Thelawyercraig guy on twitter has started adding Michigan numbers due to their increase.  This is a good example of when cases increase by a large enough amount, it is still going to result in more people going to the hospital, even though many older/vulnerable have been vaccinated.  As time goes on and even more individuals are vaccinated, it should require an even greater increase in case numbers to result in higher hospitalizations.

 

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Aren’t hospitalizations already below what they would be in a typical flu season though? Pretty sure they are, or close to it. Should not result in anymore lockdowns as hospitals are not overrun. But you know politics...

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3 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

Aren’t hospitalizations already below what they would be in a typical flu season though? Pretty sure they are, or close to it. Should not result in anymore lockdowns as hospitals are not overrun. But you know politics...

I don't know.  Based on the extremely low prevalence of flu this season, there is probably virtually nobody in the hospital with the flu now.

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8 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

I don't know.  Based on the extremely low prevalence of flu this season, there is probably virtually nobody in the hospital with the flu now.

Already well below 2017-2018. What are we at 35k hospitalizations?  

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3 minutes ago, BuffaloWeather said:

Already well below 2017-2018. What are we at 35k hospitalizations?  

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That says cumulative, so I believe it is adding up all of the hospitalizations to that point? 

Better comparison would be to look at how many people were in the hospital with the flu in the middle of March 2018.

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2 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

That says cumulative, so I believe it is adding up all of the hospitalizations to that point? 

Better comparison would be to look at how many people were in the hospital with the flu in the middle of March 2018.

Yeah sorry at gym. I read article showing we’re already below a normal flu season hospitalizations already. Weird the flu disappeared completely though. It was down 97% in western New York. Insane 

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1 hour ago, madwx said:

Language like this leads to violence against minorities like you saw in Georgia. If you have any decency you should stop using it 

The violence that has no evidence of being racially motivated?

 

Don't even disagree but at least pick a relevant example.

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2 hours ago, madwx said:

Language like this leads to violence against minorities like you saw in Georgia. If you have any decency you should stop using it 

Lol stop it. 

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1 minute ago, dta1984 said:

Lol stop it. 

Glad to see you learn and grow from your past actions.   Maybe one day you’ll have an intelligent response 

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3 minutes ago, madwx said:

Glad to see you learn and grow from your past actions.   Maybe one day you’ll have an intelligent response 

Lol what? You can disagree with my name reference if you want, but it isn't related at all to Georgia. 

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6 minutes ago, dta1984 said:

Lol what? You can disagree with my name reference if you want, but it isn't related at all to Georgia. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-56218684
 

Please read some articles like this and let me know what you think.  After you read a few like this you can see how terms like that can lead to racism and hate crimes

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31 minutes ago, madwx said:

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-56218684
 

Please read some articles like this and let me know what you think.  After you read a few like this you can see how terms like that can lead to racism and hate crimes

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/violence-against-asian-americans-why-hate-crime-should-be-used-n1258793

I thought this one was pretty fair too, probably because it was published before the media could blow up the white guy narrative.

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1 hour ago, schoeppeya said:

The violence that has no evidence of being racially motivated?

 

Don't even disagree but at least pick a relevant example.

You’re right.  I had misunderstood what had happened and made an argument based on it But my point still stands, calling the virus that does nothing but inflame things 

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Just now, madwx said:

You’re right.  I had misunderstood what had happened and made an argument based on it But my point still stands, calling the virus that does nothing but inflame things 

Agreed. 

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IHME has daily average deaths not dropping below 500 until the middle of May.  I sure hope it happens earlier but the backside of these curves has proven to not go as quickly as we'd like.  For comparison, we were getting about 1500 deaths per day in mid-May 2020.  

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8 hours ago, Hoosier said:

Not going to comment on that specific case, but there have definitely been ramifications from calling this the "China virus." 

I have seen the argument that there is some history of naming diseases based on where the initial cases showed up, such as Lyme Disease and Saint Louis encephalitis.  Then there's the big one -- the Spanish Flu -- which didn't even originate there.  Perhaps we shouldn't have given those names to those diseases, but it's kinda tough to go back decades and undo that.  It is difficult to ascribe any innocent motive to calling this the "China virus."  It was never called that in an official capacity, and it is easy enough to just say coronavirus, covid, covid-19, SARS-CoV2.  It's not some 20 letter word that is hard to remember.   

this doesn't go nearly far enough in addressing the rampant racism in this thread. do better.

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2 hours ago, purduewx80 said:

this doesn't go nearly far enough in addressing the rampant racism in this thread. do better.

It's Hoosier 

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2 hours ago, purduewx80 said:

this doesn't go nearly far enough in addressing the rampant racism in this thread. do better.

Lol come on man that’s pretty serious hyperbole. 

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3 hours ago, purduewx80 said:

this doesn't go nearly far enough in addressing the rampant racism in this thread. do better.

It's not racism

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Man this thread is woke. I for one am disgusted that the 1918 epidemic is referred to as the “Spanish Flu”. What a disgusting comment to those in Spain, how will they get by with such an offense :rolleyes:

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On 3/18/2021 at 5:36 PM, dta1984 said:

Lol "masks are for theater after you've been vaccinated or had the virus." 

Get him senator Paul!   

 

Dr. Fauci keeps changing his mind more than I change my boxers.

On 3/18/2021 at 6:53 PM, dta1984 said:

On a roller coaster?  Lol come on loosen up. 

Stupid rule

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Cuomo lifted curfew for Casinos , Movies , Bowling Alleys and Gyms.

Restaurants are now allowing 50 percent capacity for indoor dining in NYC and 75 percent for the rest of the state.

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5 minutes ago, MJO812 said:

Dr. Fauci keeps changing his mind more than I change my boxers.

Stupid rule

Lol can't forget this gem

 

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4 minutes ago, dta1984 said:

Lol can't forget this gem

 

Everyone bashed Trump in late January when he closed the border to China. Liberals thought Trump was insane and said just go on with your lives.

 

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And....I have not heard ANYBODY in my area of Central New York calling this the "China virus" or any such thing. Not saying it doesn't happen..maybe out there in the Midwest area.....

This whole blowing everything out of proportion in this nation is an epidemic in itself.

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