JBG Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 1 hour ago, sussexcountyobs said: I do not call science a hoax. Don't twist words. I called man made climate change a hoax. And again, 113 yrs is a very , very short time period to talk about global temperatures. 100, or 1,000 yrs is a blip on the Earth's clock. Agreed. And their chosen remedy of a tax on affluent countries makes me suspicious of their agenda. Shake of the tin cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexcountyobs Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 48 minutes ago, psv88 said: Agreed; no need for hard feelings. It’s not the deniers fault that they can’t accept science. They became deniers due to both nature and nurture (aka science), it is beyond their control and how they are wired. Just like those who accept science and facts were likely raised in environments which fostered the acceptance of reality. All we can do long term is ignore the deniers until they die off. The younger generation is really charged up about climate change. You must be joking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, sussexcountyobs said: You must be joking? Definitely not joking. I have no hard feelings, once deniers die off, the younger generations will do what needs to be done. Green parties around the world are swelling in numbers, massive gains in Europe, the younger generation cares about the environment because it is their inheritance. I dont blame you or others of your ilk. Just like i don't blame anti-vaxxers, or liberals who are crazy about GMOS, etc. People will believe what they want to believe. I believe that in the end, the truth always prevails. Maybe i am the moron, but i am willing to take that risk of action over inaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHELEG Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 2 hours ago, sussexcountyobs said: I do not call science a hoax. Don't twist words. I called man made climate change a hoax. And again, 113 yrs is a very , very short time period to talk about global temperatures. 100, or 1,000 yrs is a blip on the Earth's clock. Climate change is a scientific theory. Not a proven fact. denying climate does not = calling science a hoax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, JBG said: Agreed. And their chosen remedy of a tax on affluent countries makes me suspicious of their agenda. Shake of the tin cup? Yea. Agreed, climate change is simply poor countries trying to shake down rich countries. It's incredible how poor countries have managed to employ tens of thousands of scientists and alter data in their favor to try and squeeze a few bucks out of the rich countries. Unless...you are completely wrong and the chosen remedy is not a transfer of wealth. It is self-regulation by individual countries, closing coal power plants, etc. Just this week, a court in the netherlands (where my family is from) ordered the country to cut emissions, on the basis of human rights. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50864569 No transfer of wealth there. But, who needs facts when they have Tucker, am i right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 17 minutes ago, SHELEG said: Climate change is a scientific theory. Not a proven fact. denying climate does not = calling science a hoax. It is not a theory that greenhouse gases prevent heat from escaping the earth, this is law. It is also not a theory that greenhouse gases have increased rapidly for the past century due to industrialization. These are facts. It is also fact that temps have increased rapidly over the past century, confirming the above...the science is settled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, sussexcountyobs said: You are a complete jerkoff, and a moron.Wishing others to die off? It would really be ashame if you or a family member passed away tonight. MERRY Christmas asswipe. Karma is a bitch. lol what. Layoff the eggnog. i didnt wish for anything. Nice try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexcountyobs Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 Just now, psv88 said: Shocking that a climate denier also lacks reading comprehension. I did not wish anything, i said "once" they do. You wishing me death tonight lol, thats a first on a message board! I Do not wish that. You said once people like me, the deniers, die off. Pretty intolerant for a millennial liberal. Like I said, Karma is a bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, sussexcountyobs said: I Do not wish that. You said once people like me, the deniers, die off. Pretty intolerant for a millennial liberal. Like I said, Karma is a bitch. Yes, once. That is not wishing for anything. "Once grandpa dies, the house goes to his wife" Does that mean i wished for him to die? Course not, you are twisting my words and your attempt fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHELEG Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 17 minutes ago, psv88 said: It is not a theory that greenhouse gases prevent heat from escaping the earth, this is law. It is also not a theory that greenhouse gases have increased rapidly for the past century due to industrialization. These are facts. It is also fact that temps have increased rapidly over the past century, confirming the above...the science is settled. This is incorrect. Yes we know greenhouse gases cause the earth to retain its heat in a controlled environment but we have no proof to how the atmosphere would respond on a global scale.In fact there have been centuries which had more CO2 in the environment than we have now with less warming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, SHELEG said: This is incorrect. Yes we know greenhouse gases cause the earth to retain its heat in a controlled environment but we have no proof to how the atmosphere would respond on a global scale.In fact there have been centuries which had more CO2 in the environment than we have now with less warming We do have proof because its happening now. Each year is warmer than the last (essentially). I will be direct. Why deny? What is the motivation? Is it simply because it is a cause supported by liberals? Is there something else? I really dont understand why people deny, unless they work for the fossil fuel industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexcountyobs Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 Still no one has replied what the average yearly temps were in NYC area in the 1400's, 1500's, 1600's, 1700's, 1800's etc. And we can ask what were the temps thousands of years before that? Giving computer data showing rising temps in the last 100 years is meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHELEG Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, psv88 said: We do have proof because its happening now. Each year is warmer than the last (essentially). I will be direct. Why deny? What is the motivation? Is it simply because it is a cause supported by liberals? Is there something else? I really dont understand why people deny, unless they work for the fossil fuel industry. It’s important to know because global warming is causing people to become hysterical like believe and believe that they shouldn’t have children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, SHELEG said: It’s important to know because global warming is causing people to become hysterical like believe and believe that they shouldn’t have children. So your motivation is to protect those people who are concerned from themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHELEG Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, psv88 said: So your motivation is to protect those people who are concerned from themselves? Hey what would you say To someone preparing for a blizzard based off 380 hour GFS run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexcountyobs Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, SHELEG said: It’s important to know because global warming is causing people to become hysterical like believe and believe that they shouldn’t have children. It's a good thing that those people don't reproduce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, SHELEG said: Hey what would you say To someone preparing for a blizzard based off 380 hour GFS run Good luck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, sussexcountyobs said: It's a good thing that those people don't reproduce. They most certainly are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Gorilla Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 The type of digression we are seeing here is exactly what happens when winter takes a break and most get a brown Christmas. Merry Christmas everyone and count your blessings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowshack Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 37 minutes ago, sussexcountyobs said: Still no one has replied what the average yearly temps were in NYC area in the 1400's, 1500's, 1600's, 1700's, 1800's etc. And we can ask what were the temps thousands of years before that? Giving computer data showing rising temps in the last 100 years is meaningless. https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/global-warming/last-1000-years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinRP37 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 This thread is garbage on Christmas Eve. Merry Christmas to all. Wish we could show everyone how science is really done and I have never received my big payday from the government for showing tick risk increasing to the north as climate warms. Which department do I write to receive my compensation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan76 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 I saw a couple of pages added since this morning and was like....yes but my bad carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 2 hours ago, psv88 said: Yea. Agreed, climate change is simply poor countries trying to shake down rich countries. It's incredible how poor countries have managed to employ tens of thousands of scientists and alter data in their favor to try and squeeze a few bucks out of the rich countries. Unless...you are completely wrong and the chosen remedy is not a transfer of wealth. It is self-regulation by individual countries, closing coal power plants, etc. Just this week, a court in the netherlands (where my family is from) ordered the country to cut emissions, on the basis of human rights. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50864569 No transfer of wealth there. But, who needs facts when they have Tucker, am i right? Blah blah blah. We've heard this tired story before. It's a hoax. Paris Agreement would have taken American dollars to foreign countries. Meanwhile, China and India profit, and don't cut their emissions? Cmon. Liberal millionaires purchasing real estate at water's edge? Cmon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 1 hour ago, psv88 said: We do have proof because its happening now. Each year is warmer than the last (essentially). I will be direct. Why deny? What is the motivation? Is it simply because it is a cause supported by liberals? Is there something else? I really dont understand why people deny, unless they work for the fossil fuel industry. We deny because 1. we've had warming like this before and 2. It's not manmade. There's no reason to change our lifestyles or act as if we'll change the outcome. People need to stop being hysterical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 6 hours ago, sussexcountyobs said: Ahh. Climate change. Historically there is on about an 11-12% chance of a white Christmas in NYC at Central Park. That's every 10 -12 years. Must be my pickup truck and lawnmower causing this warming? Can you tell me what the temps in late December in our area were 5,297 years ago? Sorry, but I do not argue about established facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 5 hours ago, wishcast_hater said: Your not gonna win against those who believe the hoax is real. Science doesn’t lie but scientists do and people can’t understand that they will cherry pick and bend the results to fit the agenda. Provide government money to show climate change is a hoax and watch how fast people change there tune. You can make a lot more money spewing drivel if you take it from the energy cartel, way more than the paltry stipends real, peer reviewed scientists get. The Pentagon and the insurance industry sure don't think its a hoax, and those are some mighty serious people. The facts are true whether you believe them or not. If the doctor says you have a disease, you don't have to believe it. But it will not change the diagnosis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 1 minute ago, WestBabylonWeather said: I believe that climate change is real i also believe it is natural i also believe we may impact it with fossil fuels and we should use clean energy but i believe it happens with or without us Without us it does not happen so rapidly. Which means we have the ability to change it. But some people find that inconvenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 3 hours ago, psv88 said: We do have proof because its happening now. Each year is warmer than the last (essentially). I will be direct. Why deny? What is the motivation? Is it simply because it is a cause supported by liberals? Is there something else? I really dont understand why people deny, unless they work for the fossil fuel industry. Denial is strongly linked to a tribal identity with a particular segment peculiar to the United States. There is no point in arguing with these folks. It is like trying to convince someone to convert to another religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 2 hours ago, JustinRP37 said: This thread is garbage on Christmas Eve. Merry Christmas to all. Wish we could show everyone how science is really done and I have never received my big payday from the government for showing tick risk increasing to the north as climate warms. Which department do I write to receive my compensation? Thank you. Facts, in the words of John Adams, are stubborn things. You're at Fordham IIRC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, weatherpruf said: Denial is strongly linked to a tribal identity with a particular segment peculiar to the United States. There is no point in arguing with these folks. It is like trying to convince someone to convert to another religion. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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