LibertyBell Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 5 hours ago, bluewave said: They really need to change their opposition to air conditioning since Europe has some of the fastest summer warming on the planet. https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/02/climate/europe-air-conditioning-heat-wave-intl-latam wait why would ANYONE have an opposition to air conditioning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 5 hours ago, bluewave said: They really need to change their opposition to air conditioning since Europe has some of the fastest summer warming on the planet. https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/02/climate/europe-air-conditioning-heat-wave-intl-latam Western Europe is warming like Western North America is warming, does having an ocean west of you increase the rate of warming? And why? One would think the opposite should be true (since the main flow of air is west to east.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 3 hours ago, Typhoon Tip said: Yet ... AC only adds more to the anthropomorphic forcing integral, too. Humanity needs to accept an opposition to using fossil fuels to power the grid, being far more apropos. CC worsening will incur increased frequency of those types of predicaments, like the AC catch-22. It may seem like just a pie slice in the total anthropomorphic forcing but situations like that will get more common. Obviously ... not a novel assertion to suspect that, just sayn' Expediency to solve local/regional imminent threat to health and safety forces taking measures within those realms to stop the death, now. And yet ...as those measures provide immediate protection they only augment the why-for crisis is at hand in the first place. It's just laughable to know what the solution really should be, while humanity divisively obfuscates from seeing it ... Instead, application of all these duct tape on a leaking dam strategies that evade the real problem. I keep coming across all these articles featuring these technological discoveries on how to combat x-y-z and I'm like ...Jesus. If you're nauseated by the potion, just stop fucking drinking the potion. It all comes back to what Don and I were ruminating over a couple of weeks ago ... the insidious nature of "hiding" CC from common experience. It has to appeal directly to the natural senses before the awareness moves from intellectualism and debate to a state of prevalence. It's just the evolutionary biology of all organisms, their impulse response to crisis is slaved to that system. The human species is no different... The difference here is that we are just beginning to see CC finally appealing ... but it will probably take some time to wake up the species awareness fully enough. A time in which we'll see these follies. To be honest, I don't think it matters what us regular people think, it's useless to lose any sleep over what regular people think. Nothing will change until our oligarchs decide it's time for things to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 23 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said: It was a LOT colder back then though, so Africa was probably pretty temperate, especially at elevation. Well, for most of that time... per AI, it sounds like homo sapiens first evolved around 300,000 years ago, so they would have been around for a couple of glacial cycles and lived through the somewhat warmer Eemian interglacial. Of course, more importantly, the population was tiny compared to today. Humanity lived much more sustainably back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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