Coach McGuirk Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 TWC is showing some replays of the video. It looks like they're only 100 yards away from an EF-4+ multi-vortex wedge tornado. Absolute tornado porn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonbo Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 It's the Pilger tornado, not the Burwell one. I swear they mislabeled it but I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted June 17, 2014 Author Share Posted June 17, 2014 This is apparently all that was found of a car that was thrown near Stanton (not sure how far). I've seen a few other instances of damage this extreme to vehicles and in every case, they were violent tornadoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeEater Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 This is apparently all that was found of a car that was thrown near Stanton (not sure how far). From Bart Comstock, he has video of that 91 Chevy Pickup.16 minutes ago · Way late to the show. Heading to intercept storm by Bartlet, NE. Drove through the damage as seen here. This was a 91 Chevy truck. Inside is the motor of a Polaris quad and part of a new Nissan. Police are looking for the occupants now. Nearby house is a clean slab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SluggerWx Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Not likely to see anything down in C KS, but there's currently a 3KM EHI of 22... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Still discrete cells any idea why none are producing? Especially the ones in E/C Nebraska. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted June 17, 2014 Author Share Posted June 17, 2014 In retrospect, this was easily the most impressive supercell I've seen since 4/27/11, and you probably have to go back to Greensburg to find one like it in the Plains. I imagine a number of case studies coming out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 In retrospect, this was easily the most impressive supercell I've seen since 4/27/11, and you probably have to go back to Greensburg to find one like it in the Plains. I imagine a number of case studies coming out of it.It really was just vomiting tornadoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwburbschaser Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 In retrospect, this was easily the most impressive supercell I've seen since 4/27/11, and you probably have to go back to Greensburg to find one like it in the Plains. I imagine a number of case studies coming out of it. Anyone word on mobile radars being out today? That would be an incredible data set if any were. I still can't believe that I had to sit this one out, going to be a while before I get over that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted June 17, 2014 Author Share Posted June 17, 2014 GIF of my screencaps, not only was this cell incredibly prolific, the majority of the tornadoes it produced were large and very intense. That's what happens when you put a lone supercell into an absurd parameter space for a decent amount of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I gotta say...TWC's website headlines drive me nuts, always a freakin' dangerous situation even if it's a "dangerous pollen ahead" headline...but they do a pretty good job when they go to live coverage mode on TV. They keep it simple enough and the hype is toned relatively appropriately. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 GIF of my screencaps, not only was this cell incredibly prolific, the majority of the tornadoes it produced were large and very intense. That's what happens when you put a lone supercell into an absurd parameter space for a decent amount of time. Who was streaming that feed? That was a perfect view for virtually the entire life of the storm . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 TWC is showing some replays of the video. It looks like they're only 100 yards away from an EF-4+ multi-vortex wedge tornado. Absolute tornado porn.EF 4+? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted June 17, 2014 Author Share Posted June 17, 2014 Who was streaming that feed? That was a perfect view for virtually the entire life of the storm . I believe it was Ben McMillan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I believe it was Ben McMillan. Wedges ~ 3:36:00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensō Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I believe it was Ben McMillan. Yes it was. He had an incredible view of pretty much the whole sequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Going to be combing through the entire life of that monster supercell as soon as that data hits the HDSS site. Probably the most intense I've personally seen since El Reno Par Deux Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 What are your thoughts?Could be isolated EF 4 damage when the dust clears, but I haven't see anything indicating the +. Most pics I've seen look like EF 3-4, which means they COULD be EF 4, but you don't see that kind of debris and standing structure left in anything more than an EF 4...which one could only infer to mean EF 5. EF 5 typically = swept clean.Just my opinion though and worth the price I've charged for it, I'm not looking for a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricHaley Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I guess it's officially a big deal when they report it across the pond (BBC)... http://m.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27879922 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricHaley Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I'm sure we'll get some EF-5 damage if houses are off the foundation. Meaning 200 MPH winds.Weren't we seeing numbers close to that on the radar?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricHaley Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 And it looks like, sadly, Mother Nature isn't quite finished with Pilger... https://twitter.com/nwsomaha/status/478727761356271616 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I'm sure we'll get some EF-5 damage if houses are off the foundation. Meaning 200 MPH winds.Well no, that depends on the local building quality.This is a conversation that has been repeated many times before, so I will just say that we simply don't know yet. I, for the record, believe that mobile radar data should be used to supplement damage assessments. We all know that damage to human structures <> wind speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reimer Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I'm sure we'll get some EF-5 damage if houses are off the foundation. Meaning 200 MPH winds. Just because homes are off their foundations does not mean it is EF-5 damage. Most homes will be completely destroyed with EF-3 or EF-4 type damage due to their construction build. Have any photos shown whether the homes were secured to the foundation via nails or bolts? If the homes were 'secured' into the foundation with nails then it does not take much to pull out the walls and get a clean foundation (still a strong tornado). I doubt we'll see any homes rated EF-5 unless they were secured to the foundation with nuts and bolts. I haven't seen any commercial/industrial structure damage photos so I'll withhold judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricHaley Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Yes, but would there be a difference if an EF-4 were followed by an EF-3? (Or vice versa)? Not trying to be sarcastic here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Well no, that depends on the local building quality. This is a conversation that has been repeated many times before, so I will just say that we simply don't know yet. I, for the record, believe that mobile radar data should be used to supplement damage assessments. We all know that damage to human structures <> wind speed. So to clarify, even if there were 200+ mph winds, it won't be an EF 5 if the damage doesn't support it. It will be whatever the max damage supports. They LOOKED like a pair of EF 3-4s to me. They weren't mile wide wedges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Yes, but would there be a difference if an EF-4 were followed by an EF-3? (Or vice versa)? Not trying to be sarcastic here...EF 7. This was definitely unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricHaley Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 EF 7. This was definitely unique. Let's consider a halfway plausible scenario... An EF-3 hits town, does a bunch of EF-3 type damage... Then that tornado is followed shortly afterwards by an EF-4... Wouldn't the EF-3 damaged structures hit by a subsequent EF-4 show greater signs of damage than would be caused by a single EF-4? Or do they have a way of determining the damage caused by each specific tornado individually?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Today is the first time I fully and truthfully regret not having chased. Scott Peake's video (Basehunters) several posts back is some of the best tornado footage I've seen in a while. He has absolutely killed it with tornado video this year. Pilger, NE looks like EF-4 damage based on the few pics I've looked at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayhawkers Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Looks like this turned into a "fight" it's always safe to err on the side of lesser EF-Scale damage. And guessing by the fact that it was a small town in Nebraska, the homes probably didn't have fantastic foundation-to-wall attachment; i.e, bolts/washers/screws over nails. As far as Mobile radar measurements go, why shouldn't we use those to accurately determine a tornado's strength? Just like with El-Reno last year, if a near 300mph wind gust is measured by a DOW, why in the world would you downgrade it to an EF-4 just because of damage, because 298mph is well above EF-5 threshold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I guess it's officially a big deal when they report it across the pond (BBC)... http://m.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27879922Tornadoes (and other intense weather) are big business. The increase in coverage over the last few years is huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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