Guest Pamela Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Winds would help NYC get cooler. If winds are light, forget it. Even in the midst of the UHI like Central Park or LGA...where radiational cooling is very, very limited, I still think you are better off if winds go dead calm than if they are whipping out of the west if you want to see extreme minimums...strong cold air advection is only going to lower the mercury if the air entering the area is substantially colder than the air there at present...i.e., immediately following cold frontal passage...otherwise, you are just moving the same temperature air from one spot to another. JFK, I know, does better when the winds go calm as they are ever so slightly removed from the extreme UHI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 FWIW, now that the data has been extracted from Central Park's ASOS, two days that had initially been shown with high temperatures below 20°, actually had high temperatures of 20°. NYC currently has 3 high temperatures below 20° this winter, the most since winter 2003-04 when the City had 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I wonder how the temperature managed to go up days after the fact.... Probably the same way snow accumulations go up on the official record a day later. Error correction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted January 26, 2014 Author Share Posted January 26, 2014 .EQUIPMENT...DUE TO A COMMUNICATIONS ISSUE...THE CLIMATE DATA FOR NEW YORK CITYAT CENTRAL PARK IS CURRENTLY UNAVAILABLE. BACKUP SENSORS HAVE BEENUSED TO POPULATE THE CLIMATE AND OBSERVATIONAL DATA FROM JANUARY 16TO THE PRESENT...AND THIS METHOD WILL CONTINUE TO BE EMPLOYED UNTILTHE PROBLEM IS RESOLVED.THE EQUIPMENT IN CENTRAL PARK IS STILL WORKING...AND THE DATA ISBEING ARCHIVED. WHEN APPROPRIATE COMMUNICATIONS ARE RESTORED...THISARCHIVED DATA WILL BE USED TO MAKE ANY CORRECTIONS NECESSARY TO BOTHTHE CLIMATE DATABASE AND PRODUCTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I wonder how the temperature managed to go up days after the fact.... It didn't go up. There was a communications error with ASOS, so between hour data was unavailable. Now that the problem was fixed, the between hours data was extracted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sferic Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Winds would help NYC get cooler. If winds are light, forget it. True, the Winds NW, NNW N 25MPH or greater all contribute to getting us around or below zero ala winter 1976-77 Christmas 1980, Feb 1994....Light winds or radiational cooling does not work for NYC proper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Temp in the park reached freezing at 11:00pm this evening, first 32 (or above) reading since 2am on January 21st, an elapsed period of 5 days and 21 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user13 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Temp in the park reached freezing at 11:00pm this evening, first 32 (or above) reading since 2am on January 21st, an elapsed period of 5 days and 21 hours. yea just hit 32 here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 yea just hit 32 here Weird ewr rose to 28 and dropped to 25...5 straight days of -10 or greater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Weird ewr rose to 28 and dropped to 25...5 straight days of -10 or greater Same here as temp went from 25 at midnight to 23 currently... bit of clearing and light winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 So what model had low 40s for this morning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 So what model had low 40s for this morning? Bottom falls out in 6 hours , Euro did have the SLP the furthest N , so prob should hav expected the spike . But to you`re point NONE lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hailstorm Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Upton has us torching by this weekend with rain. I'm very worried about the current snowpack now. So we have no chance to get as cold as last week in February? This is it for the bitter cold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Upton has us torching by this weekend with rain. I'm very worried about the current snowpack now. So we have no chance to get as cold as last week in February? This is it for the bitter cold? Mid 30s is torching? The snow pack will be fine, I don't see any big warm up at all right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Upton has us torching by this weekend with rain. I'm very worried about the current snowpack now. So we have no chance to get as cold as last week in February? This is it for the bitter cold? Yes you are correct ,WINTER IS OVER , done finished , after Thrs , break out the short sleeves and get out the tanning lotion . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hailstorm Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Yes you are correct ,WINTER IS OVER , done finished , after Thrs , break out the short sleeves and get out the tanning lotion . I'm not making a prediction. I am instead questioning whether we will see bitter temps again in February like we did last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I'm not making a prediction. I am instead questioning whether we will see bitter temps again in February like we did last week. Feb 5- 15 Very cold again, any spike is temp . prob a few days as the trough comes back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongIslandWx Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 The temperature outside right now will be the warmest you'll see for the next week at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 The temperature outside right now will be the warmest you'll see for the next week at least. Its 37 right now. I expect to beat that Friday and Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWCCraig Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 41.6 Down to 2" OTG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Its 37 right now. I expect to beat that Friday and Saturday Not if the GFS is right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Feb 5- 15 Very cold again, any spike is temp . prob a few days as the trough comes back I doubt we see temps as cold as we did last week though. Although NYC's all time coldest temp was recorded on Feb 9th, slowly but surely climo starts to play a role. After the second week of Feb, only 3 days have record lows below 0 (and two of them are in that third week). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Finally went above freezing here at about 9am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 It's well above freezing, 44F and rising, well above forecast. This makes me think the midweek storm isn't done trending N&W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I doubt we see temps as cold as we did last week though. Although NYC's all time coldest temp was recorded on Feb 9th, slowly but surely climo starts to play a role. After the second week of Feb, only 3 days have record lows below 0 (and two of them are in that third week). Careful , Euro and GFS ensembles agree its coast to coast cold , The CFSV2 is COLD 5- 15 we will see , ' I know u hate the cold , ha . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hailstorm Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 It's well above freezing, 44F and rising, well above forecast. This makes me think the midweek storm isn't done trending N&W. As Mikehobbyist would say, "blame the rising sun angle." Careful , Euro and GFS ensembles agree its coast to coast cold , The CFSV2 is COLD 5- 15 we will see , ' I know u hate the cold , ha . He just wants the cold to ease just so he can see women in sundresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 As Mikehobbyist would say, "blame the rising sun angle." He just wants the cold to ease just so he can see women in sundresses. Yes, and? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Careful , Euro and GFS ensembles agree its coast to coast cold , The CFSV2 is COLD 5- 15 we will see , ' I know u hate the cold , ha . Running outside in it every day is getting old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hailstorm Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Yes, and? I don't blame you for your rationale, but I don't want the cold to ease just yet! Maybe by March 21 would be fine for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 He just wants the cold to ease just so he can see women in sundresses. Only reason that anyone`s allowed to hate winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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