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Winter storm threat disc 1/25/13-1/26/13


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Taking the last 24 hours of model runs into consideration...  I think I will make a modest downward adjustment in my forecast for TTN...  from 1-3 inches to a coating-2 inches.  I can still see them getting over an inch, but the possibility of more than 2 inches now seems very small, while the possibility if less than an inch is considerably larger.  I do think it snows, though.

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06z GFS has KISP with 0.07" of precip....20:1 ratio, 1.4" of snow. It appears most models have at least 0.05", at most 0.09 of precip so that's at least an inch for me and areas south. Also considering the 03z SREFs came in wetter again. 0.1" line close to LI, and SREFs do very well in this time frame. SREFs want to develop the storm faster. Also, the current radar looks more organized and the precip field is larger than what the NAM had shown.

 

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The radar doesn't look bad

 

http://www.wunderground.com/radar/map.asp

 

Is this the main precip from the clipper?

Yeah but I doubt it holds over the mountains...clippers tend to have brief 3-6 hour pulses too which are hard to predict, they can cause one place to 5-6 inches and downstream someone gets 1-2...remember the one event in the 01-02 winter went crazy over BWI/DCA and then weakened by the time it reached PHL/NYC

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Yeah but I doubt it holds over the mountains...clippers tend to have brief 3-6 hour pulses too which are hard to predict, they can cause one place to 5-6 inches and downstream someone gets 1-2...remember the one event in the 01-02 winter went crazy over BWI/DCA and then weakened by the time it reached PHL/NYC

 

I don't want to remember that winter. :cry:

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this water vapor looks good with the brighter greens passing right over NJ - we have already clouded up - also dayton ohio is reporting heavy snow

 

http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/national/satellite-wv?play=1

Models are drying the precip up as it heads east from the mountains, we've seen this all too often if we don't have a corresponding storm to re-develop off the coast and throw moisture back. Downsloping can be a killer in a dry airmass like this. If I get over an inch somehow, I'll be thrilled.

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Yeah but I doubt it holds over the mountains...clippers tend to have brief 3-6 hour pulses too which are hard to predict, they can cause one place to 5-6 inches and downstream someone gets 1-2...remember the one event in the 01-02 winter went crazy over BWI/DCA and then weakened by the time it reached PHL/NYC

 

I think something like this will happen again. Probably less dramatic though. The 12z NAM sounding of PIT initialized too dry in the lower-levels compared to actual sounding, this morning. However, 12z soundings out OKX and IAD were drier than what 12z NAM initialized.

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snow is already reaching the ground out in western PA

 

http://kamala.cod.edu/pa/latest.asus41.CTP.KCTP.html

Forecasts always underdo virga potential in these cold situations...its usually when you're mid20s-low30s that the long duration virga periods occur...often times once you're dropping your temps teens to lower 20s the precip tends to reach the ground faster than expected.

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heavy snow for 2 hours now in central ohio - seems like the northern part of this storm is holding together and not alot of virga in front of it

 

http://kamala.cod.edu/oh/latest.asus41.CLE.KCLE.html

Radar deeper at this point than modeled . The key is can it hold once over the mountains , they sometimes like to dry as theyas they come over . prob check state college radar later to see if those returns are as impressive once east .
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ASSUMING SNOW TO LIQUID RATIOS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 12 AND 15:1

(CLIMATOLOGY IS CLOSER TO 11:1)...WE ARE STILL EXPECTING A GENERAL 1

TO 2 INCH SNOWFALL ACROSS THE REGION. THE BETTER MID LEVEL FORCING

COULD ALLOW SOME PLACES IN NORTHEAST MARYLAND...DELAWARE AND

SOUTHEAST NEW JERSEY TO APPROACH 3 INCHES. THERE IS A LOW

PROBABILITY BANDING COULD FORM IN THIS AREA...AS IT IS CLOSEST TO

THE AXIS OF THE BEST MID LEVEL FRONTOGENETIC FORCING...WHICH COULD

ADD TO SNOW TOTALS. THIS MAY NEED TO BE WATCHED THIS EVENING.

MT Holly .

Mayb some Ocean Cty pp can get to the 3 mark .

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ASSUMING SNOW TO LIQUID RATIOS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 12 AND 15:1 (CLIMATOLOGY IS CLOSER TO 11:1)...WE ARE STILL EXPECTING A GENERAL 1 TO 2 INCH SNOWFALL ACROSS THE REGION. THE BETTER MID LEVEL FORCING COULD ALLOW SOME PLACES IN NORTHEAST MARYLAND...DELAWARE AND SOUTHEAST NEW JERSEY TO APPROACH 3 INCHES. THERE IS A LOW PROBABILITY BANDING COULD FORM IN THIS AREA...AS IT IS CLOSEST TO THE AXIS OF THE BEST MID LEVEL FRONTOGENETIC FORCING...WHICH COULD ADD TO SNOW TOTALS. THIS MAY NEED TO BE WATCHED THIS EVENING. MT Holly . Mayb some Ocean Cty pp can get to the 3 mark .

you have to watch this closely - seems the northern part of this system is a little stronger then originally progged and the southern part doesn't look so good so far

 

http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/northeast-region/weather-radar?play=1

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what is really encouraging with this radar and it shows it well the northern half of the precip shield is solid the southern part south of mason dixon line is more broken up and the movement of the heavier echoes is moving right toward us - the mountains is the wild card but the stronger the precip shield less breakup

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~fxg1/WXTYPE/loop25ne.html

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what is really encouraging with this radar and it shows it well the northern half of the precip shield is solid the southern part south of mason dixon line is more broken up and the movement of the heavier echoes is moving right toward us - the mountains is the wild card but the stronger the precip shield less breakup

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~fxg1/WXTYPE/loop25ne.html

 

It looks like a "Wall of Snow" is forming on the last few frames.

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