OHweather Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I'm pretty sure it was warm in CLE from March through this past December... at least it seemed that way. Winter ended quickly as far as I remember in February. OHSnow is OCD about CLE weather even though he doesn't live around here. It was warm in CLE starting last March into the beginning of this winter, but OHSnow is trying to argue global warming and that last winter was warm or something along those lines. Winter ended early and summer was warm, but while winter was here it was cold (not below normal at CLE but not very warm either). We haven't seen a never ended stretch of warm weather the past year and a half like OHSnow was implying. OHSnow is Ytterbium right? That's what I thought/still think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 000 CXUS51 KILN 010555 CF6CMH PRELIMINARY LOCAL CLIMATOLOGICAL DATA (WS FORM: F-6) STATION: COLUMBUS OH MONTH: MARCH YEAR: 2010 LATITUDE: 40 0 N LONGITUDE: 82 53 W TEMPERATURE IN F: :PCPN: SNOW: WIND :SUNSHINE: SKY :PK WND ================================================================================ 1 2 3 4 5 6A 6B 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 12Z AVG MX 2MIN DY MAX MIN AVG DEP HDD CDD WTR SNW DPTH SPD SPD DIR MIN PSBL S-S WX SPD DR ================================================================================ 1 38 30 34 -3 31 0 T T 3 5.0 12 340 M M 9 18 15 330 2 34 24 29 -8 36 0 T T 2 6.6 13 360 M M 10 1 18 30 3 34 29 32 -5 33 0 T T 1 10.1 16 340 M M 10 21 10 4 39 23 31 -7 34 0 0.00 0.0 1 8.1 18 360 M M 3 22 360 5 39 21 30 -8 35 0 0.00 0.0 0 6.2 15 360 M M 2 12 17 340 6 43 20 32 -7 33 0 0.00 0.0 0 2.5 13 30 M M 0 1 15 20 7 48 20 34 -5 31 0 0.00 0.0 0 2.0 12 240 M M 3 18 14 250 8 55 34 45 6 20 0 0.00 0.0 0 2.3 10 140 M M 4 18 14 130 9 62 31 47 7 18 0 T 0.0 0 5.0 12 120 M M 5 15 120 10 64 44 54 14 11 0 0.04 0.0 0 6.4 13 150 M M 7 1 17 170 11 68 42 55 15 10 0 0.05 0.0 0 5.6 10 140 M M 9 23 170 12 70 49 60 19 5 0 0.16 0.0 0 9.4 24 220 M M 9 138 35 100 13 52 43 48 7 17 0 0.74 0.0 0 7.7 16 220 M M 10 1 22 70 14 48 39 44 3 21 0 0.06 0.0 0 6.5 16 350 M M 10 1 20 350 15 45 38 42 0 23 0 T 0.0 0 12.4 21 340 M M 10 25 350 16 60 40 50 8 15 0 0.00 0.0 0 7.2 15 10 M M 5 21 10 17 63 33 48 6 17 0 0.00 0.0 0 3.4 9 360 M M 3 12 10 18 65 33 49 6 16 0 0.00 0.0 0 4.7 18 280 M M 3 23 290 19 66 37 52 9 13 0 0.00 0.0 0 6.9 21 250 M M 5 25 240 20 69 40 55 11 10 0 0.00 0.0 0 6.6 18 220 M M 6 28 300 21 72 41 57 13 8 0 0.01 0.0 0 7.1 21 20 M M 9 25 30 22 49 37 43 -1 22 0 0.49 0.0 0 8.1 17 330 M M 10 1 23 330 23 49 37 43 -1 22 0 T 0.0 0 8.8 21 330 M M 8 1 25 320 24 61 32 47 2 18 0 0.00 0.0 0 1.6 9 250 M M 6 18 15 230 25 58 31 45 0 20 0 0.70 0.2 0 8.9 22 10 M M 10 14 29 20 26 41 29 35 -10 30 0 0.05 0.5 1 12.5 22 20 M M 4 1 33 30 27 58 26 42 -4 23 0 0.00 0.0 0 7.4 17 140 M M 7 25 140 28 57 43 50 4 15 0 0.44 0.0 0 11.3 20 180 M M 9 1 28 180 29 50 41 46 0 19 0 0.01 0.0 0 10.9 18 360 M M 10 1 23 10 30 57 34 46 -1 19 0 0.00 0.0 0 4.9 12 360 M M 2 18 35 320 31 71 34 53 6 12 0 0.00 0.0 0 5.8 16 220 M M 4 22 180 meh, not really. 2/3rd of the days were normal or below. the third that were above normal were WAY above skewing the monthly departures. Precip on 2/3rd of the days as well. Not exactly a nice early kick off to spring. Granted, better than i thought remembered though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 meh, not really. 2/3rd of the days were normal or below. the third that were above normal were WAY above skewing the monthly departures. Precip on 2/3rd of the days as well. Not exactly a nice early kick off to spring. Granted, better than i thought remembered though. Fair enough, but what's your definition of normal? By my count, CMH had 19 days that were normal or above. I'm not sure how's that not warm in the general sense. Alas, everyone has their own thoughts on such things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Fair enough, but what's your definition of normal? By my count, CMH had 19 days that were normal or above. I'm not sure how's that not warm in the general sense. Alas, everyone has their own thoughts on such things. well here's what i recall. I had signed a couple jobs to begin that month and they ended up having to be put off because of wet and cold and it seemed things didn't start rolling until well into April. Maybe it was the fact that it was just a lousy weather month over all...not so much a super cold month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 well here's what i recall. I had signed a couple jobs to begin that month and they ended up having to be put off because of wet and cold and it seemed things didn't start rolling until well into April. Maybe it was the fact that it was just a lousy weather month over all...not so much a super cold month. Certainly makes sense, with regard to your profession. My job has to do with the outside too (golf), and it couldn't have been a better start to the season. One of the earliest I can recall here. Of course I still root for cold/snow through mid-March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I will tell you this from a perspective to your north, it was a very warm March at DTW, and the change from very wintry Feb to very springy Mar was very noticeable, in fact one of the quickest winter to spring transitions I can remember. But thats here. [size="3"]STATION: DETROIT MI MONTH: FEBRUARY YEAR: 2010 LATITUDE: 42 13 N LONGITUDE: 83 20 W TEMPERATURE IN F: :PCPN: SNOW: WIND :SUNSHINE: SKY :PK WND ================================================================================ 1 2 3 4 5 6A 6B 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 12Z AVG MX 2MIN DY MAX MIN AVG DEP HDD CDD WTR SNW DPTH SPD SPD DIR MIN PSBL S-S WX SPD DR ================================================================================ 1 28 10 19 -6 46 0 0.00 0.0 T 5.0 13 220 M M 6 18 16 240 2 32 19 26 1 39 0 0.09 1.8 T 3.3 9 120 M M 10 18 13 130 3 34 23 29 4 36 0 T 0.4 3 6.0 13 310 M M 10 18 16 320 4 34 22 28 3 37 0 0.00 0.0 T 2.3 9 320 M M 9 18 10 320 5 32 27 30 5 35 0 T T T 11.7 23 50 M M 10 8 31 50 6 29 21 25 0 40 0 T T T 15.3 25 40 M M 8 33 40 7 32 18 25 0 40 0 T T T 5.6 13 10 M M 9 18 15 10 8 36 15 26 0 39 0 0.00 0.0 T 1.5 10 190 M M 4 8 15 220 9 27 22 25 -1 40 0 0.43 6.5 T 9.0 20 70 M M 10 12 25 60 10 27 24 26 0 39 0 0.16 2.1 9 10.8 23 340 M M 10 1 29 340 11 30 22 26 0 39 0 T T 9 9.9 18 300 M M 9 1 25 300 12 28 22 25 -1 40 0 T T 9 5.6 9 310 M M 10 360 15 13 30 20 25 -1 40 0 T T 9 7.3 15 310 M M 10 18 22 300 14 33 26 30 3 35 0 T T 6 11.1 20 230 M M 10 22 230 15 30 24 27 0 38 0 T T 6 4.6 12 340 M M 10 8 16 340 16 31 23 27 0 38 0 0.12 2.5 4 7.3 15 320 M M 10 1 21 300 17 35 23 29 2 36 0 T T 6 10.0 20 290 M M 10 1 25 280 18 38 28 33 5 32 0 0.00 0.0 5 11.1 17 290 M M 7 23 300 19 40 23 32 4 33 0 0.00 0.0 2 7.6 17 300 M M 1 22 280 20 42 23 33 5 32 0 0.00 0.0 1 4.4 10 250 M M 8 18 290 21 44 27 36 7 29 0 0.04 0.5 T 3.7 13 90 M M 9 18 20 90 22 32 30 31 2 34 0 0.52 6.4 3 9.8 15 70 M M 10 18 22 20 23 33 20 27 -2 38 0 0.01 0.2 7 5.2 12 350 M M 9 18 16 340 24 31 20 26 -4 39 0 0.23 3.1 5 1.7 7 100 M M 10 18 9 190 25 27 21 24 -6 41 0 T 0.1 7 12.9 23 320 M M 9 1 33 330 26 30 24 27 -3 38 0 0.29 3.3 7 12.9 22 310 M M 10 128 30 320 27 35 30 33 2 32 0 0.01 0.1 10 9.3 15 330 M M 10 18 21 360 28 41 31 36 5 29 0 T T 8 7.9 13 300 M M 10 6 17 360 ================================================================================ SM 921 638 1034 0 1.90 27.0 212.8 M 248 [size="3"]STATION: DETROIT MI MONTH: MARCH YEAR: 2010 LATITUDE: 42 13 N LONGITUDE: 83 20 W TEMPERATURE IN F: :PCPN: SNOW: WIND :SUNSHINE: SKY :PK WND ================================================================================ 1 2 3 4 5 6A 6B 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 12Z AVG MX 2MIN DY MAX MIN AVG DEP HDD CDD WTR SNW DPTH SPD SPD DIR MIN PSBL S-S WX SPD DR ================================================================================ 1 41 27 34 3 31 0 0.00 0.0 5 7.4 15 10 M M 7 18 10 2 39 26 33 1 32 0 0.00 0.0 3 8.0 15 40 M M 8 18 30 3 42 27 35 3 30 0 T T 2 8.5 16 340 M M 6 21 330 4 43 22 33 0 32 0 0.00 0.0 1 7.6 16 350 M M 3 21 350 5 44 23 34 1 31 0 0.00 0.0 T 4.7 13 10 M M 1 16 340 6 48 22 35 2 30 0 0.00 0.0 T 3.9 12 280 M M 0 16 290 7 49 25 37 3 28 0 0.00 0.0 0 6.4 14 240 M M 3 18 230 8 55 26 41 7 24 0 0.00 0.0 0 4.7 13 250 M M 1 18 16 260 9 57 30 44 10 21 0 0.00 0.0 0 3.7 10 170 M M 7 18 15 180 10 56 41 49 14 16 0 0.01 0.0 0 5.5 16 180 M M 9 18 18 180 11 66 39 53 18 12 0 0.14 0.0 0 6.9 17 140 M M 9 18 23 140 12 55 45 50 15 15 0 0.04 0.0 0 7.7 21 70 M M 9 18 18 70 13 50 38 44 8 21 0 0.28 0.0 0 15.6 24 70 M M 10 1 35 70 14 42 37 40 4 25 0 0.10 T 0 10.5 17 40 M M 10 1 25 40 15 59 40 50 13 15 0 T 0.0 0 9.1 18 20 M M 9 1 23 20 16 64 35 50 13 15 0 0.00 0.0 0 2.6 10 140 M M 5 18 330 17 65 33 49 12 16 0 0.00 0.0 0 2.8 12 180 M M 3 8 15 180 18 67 36 52 14 13 0 0.00 0.0 0 8.5 22 250 M M 3 29 280 19 67 39 53 15 12 0 0.00 0.0 0 10.1 25 240 M M 5 8 32 240 20 46 33 40 2 25 0 T 0.0 0 11.9 16 40 M M 9 21 40 21 50 32 41 2 24 0 0.01 T 0 9.0 17 40 M M 8 4 21 30 22 45 38 42 3 23 0 0.06 0.0 0 14.3 23 30 M M 10 31 30 23 57 40 49 10 16 0 0.00 0.0 0 7.9 16 310 M M 6 20 280 24 61 33 47 7 18 0 0.00 0.0 0 3.8 10 180 M M 5 15 280 25 48 28 38 -2 27 0 0.17 0.0 0 9.1 25 20 M M 10 1 30 30 26 41 23 32 -9 33 0 0.00 0.0 0 9.2 23 20 M M 4 32 10 27 48 24 36 -5 29 0 0.00 0.0 0 6.4 14 140 M M 6 20 140 28 46 38 42 1 23 0 0.26 0.0 0 5.7 17 10 M M 10 1 22 360 29 50 35 43 1 22 0 0.00 0.0 0 9.7 20 30 M M 6 1 25 30 30 56 30 43 1 22 0 0.00 0.0 0 3.2 13 140 M M 4 18 31 210 31 69 35 52 10 13 0 0.00 0.0 0 7.0 20 180 M M 7 18 28 170 ================================================================================ SM 1626 1000 694 0 1.07 T 231.4 M 193 [/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I find it funny when there's no current weather to discuss, we just rehash the past. At times like this, weather can be a pretty boring hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Certainly makes sense, with regard to your profession. My job has to do with the outside too (golf), and it couldn't have been a better start to the season. One of the earliest I can recall here. Of course I still root for cold/snow through mid-March. Over the last couple of years I've gotten much more heavily into outdoor lighting. That's the type of work that can even be done in the winter months as long as there's not a snow cover or the ground isn't frozen beyond a few inches. I like the little thaws we get....it gives me the opportunity to sign new work and get deposits before the cold comes back and shuts me down. It helps that my customers aren't wx weenies, otherwise most of them would probably tell me to call them back in a few months...lol. This is turning out to be one crazy looking winter....all bets are off and I'm starting to wonder if the rubber band will ever snap or the cold will just keep stretching......crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 meh, not really. 2/3rd of the days were normal or below. the third that were above normal were WAY above skewing the monthly departures. Precip on 2/3rd of the days as well. Not exactly a nice early kick off to spring. Granted, better than i thought remembered though. What a torch... Canada was bare of snow and black ice on lakes in March.. Nothing is skewing **** except your vision. I don't care where you live but only one day in the 30's all of march is a Torch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I find it funny when there's no current weather to discuss, we just rehash the past. At times like this, weather can be a pretty boring hobby. about the only interesting thing going on now is trying to guess when and if this cold will ever break for more then a day.....and just how severe it could get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincywxpro Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 People down here in SW Ohio are just going to enjoy the mid to upper 30's for the next few days. That's pretty balmy compared to the temperatures we experienced in December (New Years Eve being the exception). Looking like we get back into the much below average temperature by week's end and into the upcoming weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 People down here in SW Ohio are just going to enjoy the mid to upper 30's for the next few days. That's pretty balmy compared to the temperatures we experienced in December (New Years Eve being the exception). Looking like we get back into the much below average temperature by week's end and into the upcoming weekend. btw...welcome aboard. Great to have an OV met in the house posting. Hope you become a regular poster here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincywxpro Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 btw...welcome aboard. Great to have an OV met in the house posting. Hope you become a regular poster here. Thank you for the welcome. I look forward to chatting weather and posting my thoughts on what's to come for the Ohio Valley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincywxpro Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Very little change with the system to affect the OV on Friday. Latest GFS has the most of the precip in Northern Ohio (but continued on the light side) with very little in Central and Southern Ohio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincywxpro Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 The latest GFS is going absolutely crazy with this arctic blast for the OV by the middle of the month. I'm not buying into it. 2m temps near -20°. That's a 30 degree difference from what the 12Z run had. Good thing we have 2 weeks to keep an eye on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 OHSnow is Ytterbium right? Yep. That is ytterbium. Think the lake will become ice covered again before LES can set-up? Hope not. Looks like our only chance for snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Yep. That is ytterbium. Think the lake will become ice covered again before LES can set-up? Hope not. Looks like our only chance for snow. I think this thaw will allow for another decent LES event, provided the opportunity arises. Water temps are no doubt, still quite cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 People can say that the block is gone, but not mattering. Storms still dying out as they reach Ohio. Seriously. I'm calling it first. Winter Cancel. We are going to get more cold, but I am predicting no major snowstorms January, and 75% chance we don't see one ijn February or March either. By major storm I mean 6"+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I see YNG reporting a trace of snow on the ground. Did any of the snowbelts retain a few inches? If YNG has a trace I'd imagine places in Geauga might have an inch or two left? We're essentially a third of the way through the snow season now. I'm giving it a B grade thus far. Great LES, but nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 People can say that the block is gone, but not mattering. Storms still dying out as they reach Ohio. Seriously. I'm calling it first. Winter Cancel. We are going to get more cold, but I am predicting no major snowstorms January, and 75% chance we don't see one ijn February or March either. By major storm I mean 6"+ Today's 12z Dr. No says winter cancel un-cancel for OH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayPSU Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 People can say that the block is gone, but not mattering. Storms still dying out as they reach Ohio. Seriously. I'm calling it first. Winter Cancel. We are going to get more cold, but I am predicting no major snowstorms January, and 75% chance we don't see one ijn February or March either. By major storm I mean 6"+ I think it was around this time last year that you wrote the same thing. It worked out wonderfully for us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Today's 12z Dr. No says winter cancel un-cancel for OH. Lol for how far out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I think it was around this time last year that you wrote the same thing. It worked out wonderfully for us! Trust me I know lol, which is why this may have to become a tradition lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Lol for how far out? Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdudemike Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Lol for how far out? 0.42" QPF with high ratios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 0.42" QPF with high ratios I'm 70miles ne of columbus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdudemike Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I'm 70miles ne of columbus What station ID? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHSnow Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I see YNG reporting a trace of snow on the ground. Did any of the snowbelts retain a few inches? If YNG has a trace I'd imagine places in Geauga might have an inch or two left? We're essentially a third of the way through the snow season now. I'm giving it a B grade thus far. Great LES, but nothing more. No. I don't think so, because YNG had more than the snowbelt on the ground at the end of December, according to the NWS snow reports. You can really see the effect of the lack of snow cover on the temps today... it seems most places are 3-5 degrees warmer than expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I see YNG reporting a trace of snow on the ground. Did any of the snowbelts retain a few inches? If YNG has a trace I'd imagine places in Geauga might have an inch or two left? We're essentially a third of the way through the snow season now. I'm giving it a B grade thus far. Great LES, but nothing more. Nothing but a few piles in my area. I've traveled through western geauga and there is nothing but piles and a few patches where the snow drifted. I think YNG takes their snow measurements in plow piles. I give this season a strong C so far... mainly because we had snowcover for the majority of December. The LES really hasn't been that good. I know in some places it has but I'm grading purely IMBY. We've had almost 0 synoptic snow. We are going to need a few synoptic storms to bring the grade up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 What station ID? Kzzv would be closest to me, but I'm north of that one by 40 miles lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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