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  1. Carvers Gap
    The downstream NAO ridge/block often forces the western ridge to pop by buckling the jet, and that is likely what occurred during January. Without the NAO, the flow would have been zonal. The NAO sharpens western ridges(forces the upstream jet to buckle) and brings cold southward but allows storms to gain latitude along the EC. The debate for me is not whether the the EPO was there, I just don’t think it would have been there without the NAO buckling and forcing the trough into the East. That trough in the East forced the western ridge to pop. I just don’t think the January pattern was EPO driven....the EPO was a byproduct of downstream blocking and a retraction of the Pacific jet. Without the NAO, the EPO ridge doesn’t form in a meaningful way IMHO. That is my point. As soon as the NAO disappears, the forcing for the EPO is lost...and it disappears almost immediately. This has been a common then during the past 4-5 winters. The cold during the past few winters has often been coupled with a brief NAO episode. Think of it like a water hose on high pressure. When the end is blocked, the hose will often buckle. That is exactly my point. Without the block - no upstream EPO block this winter. We can get into previous winters and storms later, my original comment was specifically about the January cold being driven by the NAO block, and it was. I stand by that comment 100%. You will find that is often a common theme during big EC storms. And that has to be fished out of data (almost on a day by day basis) as the NAO (of late) appears for 2-3 weeks and won’t show in a monthly 500 pattern on reanalysis as it gets washed out. Again, what the NAO does is it forces the jet to buckle in an upside down omega pattern and forces confluence over the eastern half of the country. E TN, more often than not, needs it. That’s what I have, the defense rests.
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    I will add some scientific journal articles about the NAO itself. Its influence on EC wx/climatology is well documented and well studied. But again, the 6z GFS has hopefully a trend towards a colder Feb 18 system.
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    You all can dig up my old NAO posts. It is a key driver for E TN snowstorms. There isn’t a ton of debate on that. It is also a key driver in many Kocin storms. For middle and west TN, the EPO is more important as those areas just don’t benefit very often from coastals. -NAO has driven many snow storms during the past 4-5 years. It produces confluence. Without it, everything races out to sea. When we lost the NAO during late Jan, we torched. This is key...The NAO will often force the Western ridge to form as the upstream NAO ridge backs flow, forcing a trough over the East, and forces an almost upside down omega by buckling the jet northward as it crosses the West coast. Without the block over Greenland, the upstream ridge will often not form over the eastern PAC. It buckles the jet. Without the NAO, the jet doesn’t buckle this winter. That is just atmospheric physics. January’s pattern was NAO driven as it forced the upstream jet to buckle. And I do have the saved maps for that sequence and also many other recent storms - whenever I ran out of memory on Am Wx...I moved my graphics to cloud based servers. Because E TN is closer to the Atlantic, it makes sense that the Atlantic is our main driver. When I get time, probably over the summer as I am getting next winter’s forecast ready, I will pull some analytics. (Now, we haven’t talked about a PNA which is different.). I will take individual storms and look at those. Seasonal readings don’t tell the story. They have to be system by system. Often NAOs won’t last the entire season. They can sometimes be brief. What the NAI does is buckle the jet. That backs up flow and will often force or sharpen the ridge over the eastern PAC. Plenty of evidence of that in many great eastern snow storms.
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    The beginning of March is within the window that we have been talking about since mid Jan. Glad he is discussing that.
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    We just need the Pacific not to have massive jet extensions....that has been a problem for several winters. I have my theories on why this is occurring(one of you knows my thoughts), but I do wonder.
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    Modeling was completely blind to the mid-January even until just days prior. Big storm wen through the Plains and modeling flipped. I think we are going to have to get this system worked out on the 18th, before we know for sure the hand we are dealt. I honestly don't buy the EPO stuff this winter. We got a decent rotation of the MJO and the NAO fired. It got cold as the NAO pattern matured. The EPO helped some, but without that NAO, the cold wouldn't have been there at all. Same was true last winter. The reason we have seen severe cold during the last 4-5 winters is the NAO is beginning to fire again. We went a couple of decades without a true NAO negative trend. In E TN especially, the EPO is not always a driver. The storm that brought snow to this area just three weeks ago was driven there by the NAO block. The EPO would have not allowed for confluence. E TN almost always does better for snow w/ an NAO block, and that was true this winter w/ Knoxville seeing that record snowfall.
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    Right now it is the GEFS vs EPS/GEPS....there is not consensus that a warm-up is permanent. It may well be the reality, but that is not the case right now. Pretty substantial model war under way. The GEFS has had a really bad warm bias this winter.
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    Also, my general rule for pattern durations is 4-6 weeks. I really just didn't' want to admit that at the time(Jan21st), but that has come to pass. If that rule holds, the can kicking into late Feb make sense. That means the actual pattern is Jan 21-end of Feb. I can almost use that rule and never look at an MJO cycle, and I should have done that this time around. It works almost as well as "thunder in the mountains." What we thought was a thaw, was really a true pattern change. I think on modeling we are actually watching models struggle w/ the next pattern change later this month. The beginnings of that change begin next week. Remember when the pattern was can-kicked by several days during December? Same deal IMHO. To be clear, pattern changes don't mean better snow chances. I am simply talking wx at this point. We need pretty incredible cold come March at this latitude. But I do think we are going to see a -NAO build. Is the EPS wrong? Possibility. But it really deepened that feature on the 12z EPS run. Normally, I would just say that warmth is coming and mail it in. But I am skittish after what happened during January, and modeling missed a monster cold shot.
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    The PDO has been a pain. We discussed that in depth last fall as a potential thorn. It certainly(more times than not) puts the default trough in the West. That said, the Mountain West has been STRUGGLING w/ precip deficits. Could be a very rough summer there. Fortunately, I think Jackson, WY, got some snow this week. So, it is not helping them a ton. There are snow machine businesses that haven't been able to run their machines in the dead of winter. Cooke City, MT, had bare ground two weeks ago, and their main street was pavement. I have never seen that during winter. If the PDO was fully on board, there would likely not be bare ground there. But.......it is incredibly common to have severe cold in the eastern Valley, and then that be it for winter. Same was true for me as a kid. I did wonder when it got so cold, if that might be it. But I tell ya where it has been cold - Alaska. I follow Stan Zuray (Yukon Men) on Facebook. He is a great follow on social media. He is a fisheries expert. He has been posting about how cold the interior has been there. I think the main culprit this winter was the December GOA low on steroids that created that monster chinook. It scoured Canada of snow, and made it tough to rebuild the cold there. To me that has been a problem. If that had not occurred, we would have been cold from the last week of December through the third week of January. We managed to get some of that snow/cold deficit back, and even get back into positive territory in terms of snow...but I think that chinook put us in the hole from a source region standpoint. But let's see....January changed-up unexpectedly. It certainly looks like a warm signal, but the atmosphere doesn't have to do what modeling says. The storm/no-storm on the 18th could change things up much like the Plains storms did in early Jan.
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    I think the NAO is the gonna be the driver. We did this dance during January. Once the NAO got its act together, things started shaking. Plus, we are in the zone where the SSW (not the current one, but it could be I guess), but the one before could be showing up on mid range modeling and long range. edit: all we need is the MJO(like you have there) to just be not so much a pain in the neck, but just let the potential NAO drive the pattern and force confluence.
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    The 12z Euro control went freaking bonkers w/ the cold. I doesn't even look like the 0z run. The ensembles does provide some support for that. Man, this reminds me of the mid-Jan cold snap. The models didn't have it...until they did. Time will tell.
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    LOL. I knew that would happen. Send me a Christmas card. The EURO (aka Dr No) pours cold water on early spring talk....man. It traps a piece of the TPV, and there she goes. That is a classic SSW response. That is a -EPO/-NAO couplet.
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    And ha, ha...right on schedule the 12z Euro brings in a massive cold front around the 20th. Not a "stop the presses" look, but a "similar to early January look."
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    But I will say, extreme cold IMBY is often followed by winter breaking quickly for spring. 84-85 did that.
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    Truth. We just need the Pac to be neutral as I think we are in a -NAO cycle. LOTS of discussion as to why the water is so warm east of Australia. That has caused absolute chaos this winter in regards to the SOI and MJO. I can't find a great explanation for it, but that area has a lot to say about our weather. What we need is a true weak la Nina or a true weak el Nino. Those weaker phases work...moderate, strong, or nada don't work.
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    Between Feb 15-20th, yes...almost a certainty. As to whether it is prolonged? I think that is reaching the "highly unlikely" range of options. I tend to think of prolonged being 7-14 days. I don't see that at the moment, but you never know. Nothing is a certainty in the weather, except what is occurring right now. I would say 70/30 that we don't see a prolonged cold snap, but we could see mini-cold snaps. Looks like a pretty typical spring pattern setting up for March with swings to warm and cold. But again, modeling is all over the place right now....the mid-January cold shot was not seen until about 5-7 days out. It is looking likely that the LR predictions to a return to cold are likely going to bust pretty badly....but not for certain at this point.
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    At this point, I am still not totally sure modeling is sensing the -NAO. The LR right now has me super skittish. That is a common error, so I feel there is still a chance that modeling could turn colder if it can fight the Pacific. So, I do hold out a little hope that could happen. Also, if that storm deepens around the 18th...we could also see the NA pattern shift the cold eastward. I should note that I don't think the Pacific is going to be much help during coming winters due to the IO/MJO set-up. I think we are going to have to rely on Atlantic blocking which is what did the trick during mid-January. As soon as the NAO left, the cold pattern broke down within hours. Is the SSW at fault? We have seen that occur before, and our pattern went into the crapper within a few runs of it showing up......Asia looks cold as it should. Asia is the primary spot SSW cold goes(then western NA, and then eastern NA last as priorities).
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    That solution certainly makes more sense than a rainer on the 12z GFS. The western NC mountains should get popped w/ that set-up. E TN remains a dark horse with that set-up.
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    With the exception of something unexpected(LR modeling missing a cold front or a bowling ball perfectly placed), I believe winter at lower elevations is probably over after the Feb 18 system(unless CPC MJO plots are erroneously skipping cold phases which they certainly could be in error doing). Now, anything can happen during March. But as for temps, I think winter is done after say the 25th...and honestly it was over when the cold left during mid-late January. February should finish with much AN temps and rain. We are going to need every drop of this come next fall as I suspect drought takes hold late next summer along w/ temps that should be in the furnace through early October. Enjoy the cool temps and rain.
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    At this point, to be clear, the phase occurs too far to the East...but that is an impressive look. Sometimes, things have to be admired even if they don't affect us on a certain run.
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    That is the type of storm which can change up the entire NA wx pattern if it deepens an eastern trough. It has been there for several days, but that is a pretty big run for the NE.
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    Too warm on that run, but that is a FORMIDABLE solution on the 12z GFS around Feb 18th. That is likely a blizzard for portions of New England and inland mid-Atlantic. SLP rapidly deepens. If we can get that cold front to speed up, that is a big storm.....
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    The 12z EPS has a monster NAO which suppresses the storm track after Feb 24th. At minimum, the mountains should get hammered.
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    And if that get trapped under that block, it may well just not move.
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    That is pretty impressive, and this is how Atlantic blocking "could" help. The run to run departures right now are impressive to say the least. This is the 500 pattern from 12z. The NAO basically forces the PNA to pop by driving a piece of the TPV directly into the Lakes. That puts the boundary for winter storms over the TN and Ohio Valleys. Anyone remember what this looks like? Hint: don't look back too far. And yes, the sound is muted....!!!
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