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January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
As for Kuchera or non-Kuchera, I just roll with whichever gives MBY more. LOL. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
The 12z CMC has 4-8' in the valleys on the 8th and 9th of NE TN with a foot in the mountains. So, that is the CMC, GFS, and ICON that have this now. No idea if real, but worth a look. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Noticing some wide spread with snowfall algorithms with the 12z GFS. Pivotal looks reasonable. The 12z CMC just pasted all of NE TN. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Pivotal has the NE TN snowfall on Jan 8th on its site. Sharp, sharp cutoff. 6-7" from say Hawkins Co to the east. Trends will be a total bear for this. I would not assume this system trends NW as previous systems have. This has been treading steadily SE as the block has been felt - so, this could be a one off. However, seeing a couple of models jump on this system at 12z at least catches my eye. Would be feeling really good in western NC about right now. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
The 12z GFS and ICON are very close to a snowstorm now on the 8th/9th for NE TN. The ICON has measurable snow here, and the GFS just pasted all of western North Carolina and NE TN from Sullivan Co eastward. Event has to be "super close" in regards to temps as WxBell has a major event but TT does not. WxBell has 5-6" across NE TN in the valleys. The ICOn has 2-4." -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
To varying degrees, the 0z CMC and GFS open up the flood gates in terms of Arctic air. The CMC manages to get the job done before hour 240 - likely too fast, but very cold. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
0z GFS just hammers middle and west TN around the 10th. Storms are definitely feeling the block now. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Yeah, 17-18 (late Dec/early Jan) when we had that monster -EPO....one of the driest patterns I have seen during mid-winter and very cold. The North Fork of the Holston froze over here. I could be wrong, but I doubt with this background rainy pattern that we go very long without a storm pattern. If we get cold, might start seeing some 70s analogs start to show up. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Very cold northern hemisphere on the 18z GFS-Para as Holston notes...-30s at the very end of its run into North Dakota. That will probably change in future runs one way or another. That said, we want to see that type of cold showing up periodically on modeling during the next week. Saw some hints this morning that the flow was reversing late in the d14-16 time frame. So, seeing a slight rend towards some extremes just after the middle of the month. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Quintessential Nina cold pattern - meaning some Ninas are warm, but that is how it looks when cold. Cold lays NW to SE. Winter storms attack the base. Great find! -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
The 18z GEFS appears to have gotten the message - for no. Good run. One chance right after another. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Beauty of a Rockies to EC trough post 300 on the 12z EPS. Same feature that has been there for days, but deeper. If we see that persists, that is a good signal that particular trough at 500 will be quite a bit stronger. The EPO ridge is also better positioned and a bit stronger. Good look. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
IF we can hold that pattern, should be one after another in terms of things to track. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
That is the @tnweathernut window. LOL. Yeah, that looks really good on modeling. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Something to keep an eye on. The 12z Euro is actually SE of its previous run. Will be interesting to see if that comes back NW or if the block is being felt now - good test. The CMC was super close to something good. Almost looks like it is lacking precip for that vigorous of a vortex. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Man, Holston, I may be taking apples and oranges. I really need to look at the dates/times. You are talking the Tuesday deal? Sorry, I was talking Jan 8-9. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Crazy thing, this "could" move substantially NW over time and amp up. Anything substantially to our south or SE has to be watched due to models bringing things back so much NW at the last minute. We will see the big NAO reverses the NW trend with past systems to a more SE suppressed trend. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
With six days to go, still a lot of movement possible. Almost seems like modeling can't decide between the 8/9 system or the 10/11 system in terms of which one to amplify. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
At 141 on the Euro 12z, that little bowling ball on the 8th is a bit further south as it enters the forum area. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
If the southern stream energy were to check-up and slow down OR the northern stream catch-up...big storm. What is right behind it has my attention. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
That is Jax's bowling ball system. Just kind of bowls underneath....I have had my eye on that one for a bit - nice synoptics but lacking in cold. The CMC almost did some good things with that. Wonder if it will trend north with time or feel the block and trend south? -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Additionally, TRI finished -0.4 for the month of December with 4.6" of snow at the airport. Precip was 0.15 AN(thought that might be higher). Last December was +5.7F. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Will be interesting to see what kind of AN departures get built prior to the 8th. Yesterday at TRI we were +13.5 for Jan 1. Right now, were are already at 60. Will be fun to see if those can get erased. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Also, I remember modeling was steadfast in December that the 18th would be the beginning of a big warm-up...and it snowed on the 24th. LOL. I like this type of "push back" of the pattern. It is usually the other way around. Wonder if NAO winters feature "warm that never takes hold" because modeling just hasn't had to deal with it very often during winter. I suspect modern era modeling has been developed when the base state for winter is normally a +NAO. -
January 2021 Medium/Longterm Pattern Discussion.
Carvers Gap replied to AMZ8990's topic in Tennessee Valley
Yep. The CMC is considerably colder than the GFS at 12z...have a feeling the GFS is playing catchup even if the CMC is biased a bit cold. Makes me wonder if the MJO is playing too big of a factor in its(GEFS) algorithms vs the NAO block. Oddly, one thing with has not verified is the monster NAO which has been been modeled. The -NAO is there but has not been to the extreme modeling has shown...but I have a feeling it is about to maybe meet those expectations during the next two weeks.
