weatherpruf

The last 10 winters, yes, but the last 3 no. It could be a long term trend or not. I guess my point was, perhaps not clear, is that the winters of my youth did not often have blockbuster winters that got 40-60 inches, granted it is not that long a period that I recall well, maybe a dozen years. But we did not have the kind of frequent storms we saw in 2011 or 2014, that I can recall. Also, this was a long time ago. I'm not young. I'm talking the 70's. We had some snow, but the only big one I recall was Feb 78. And that was 17 inches. And no one I knew had ever remembered anything like that. I was 14. It would be 1983 before we saw that again, and 1993 before we ( barely ) broke 10 inches. So it is not unusual to have mellow winters here, but they were colder on average. No tomato seedlings popping up in Dec like 2015.

So I went to Rutgers and they had the totals for my town as this: 2015-16, 33 inches ( 27 in one storm ),2016-17: 22 inches, 2018, 35 inches, 2019, 15 inches. If you go back further, sure. we had some big winters, but even then got a tad less than some nearby areas. Not sure why.

Can't argue with that. He was saying a few years back he expected some atmospheric cooling leading to colder winters. I got better luck asking an astrologist.

I would actually have to check; I know they usually go with New Brunswick, but there were some storms, like 2018, where they had close to a foot and we had 3-4 inches, 15 minutes down the tpk. No big storms here at all since 2016. 16-17 and 17-18 were really unremarkable here. I often had coworkers come in to work from Monmouth Cty or the hills of N Jersey and they couldn't believe how little we had. Pick a storm, we underperformed. I often got heat here from people who didn't believe me, most of them gone the last two years due to lack of storms, thank goodness.One day in March 2018 we had about 3 inches, heck two times, and people were jumping on me telling me that's not possible, as if I can't see for myself and report accurately. Same thing during the "bomb" cyclone; it just wasn't happening here and we topped out at just under 7. Colleagues had over a foot 20 minutes down the parkway. I really don't know why, during one storm JM ? said it was subsidence and dry air. Mostly the bands skirt east of us for some reason, or we are too close to the bay. Don't know. It's unusual to jackpot here, 2016 and Boxing Day were exceptions.

He is close to worthless and I pay him no mind. But even a stopped clock....you have people right here that are much better at weather than he is, free of charge.

Been under average for a few years, only got there in 2016 due to the blizzard. The area around eastern Middlesex County has not done well in relation to areas close by, just as when I was young and elevation and latitude mattered. I am specifically responding to Snoski who is close to me.

Sometimes we can sneak in a wet snow event in early Feb...but it seems we are getting into some stinky winters. Been a few years now, and a number of misses for our area. Just like when I was a kid, only without the brutal cold...

It's winter, we're more likely to see some snow than not, so there's that....completely snowless or very low snow winters are not the norm either, though we've had some stretches, 97-01 being the longest in recent decades...where nothing much happened.

Some epic stinkers in there, makes me wonder just how predictive all this really is. That 87 storm surprised me; that had to be more than 8.1 in the suburbs; it was a particularly disastrous one, starting late morning and getting to whiteout conditions by noon.

Remember a documentary about a guy who got stuck there during a snowstorm years ago. Dude starved to death in his van. Apparently some roads get closed in the winter there. It was really sad, the guy wrote letters of farewell to everyone.

Not much to disagree with there, TBH.

After doing a little research, I found AZ fishing does leave something to be desired. Not bad, but not a retired angler's paradise either.

I think he means south of Flagstaff? Too lazy to check.

Not interested in being that far from the coast. I like my saltwater fishing too. So that leaves the west coast, and that ain't cheap. So it's the south. But it seems like a nice place, I've looked at it before.

Probably not affordable for a retired public employee and a wife with no pension and minimal 401k savings

A late friend had a place where he called it the "little" Adirondacks, which still got a ton of snow compared to here. He actually lived there but worked here in NJ, living in a trailer court in NJ. I get the feeling NJ is a place to work but live somewhere else....definitely retire somewhere else. For me, that will be someplace I can fish all year. Figure I can live without the snow, even though I enjoy the storms. Thought about going further north at one point, decided, ME in particular, just didn't offer enough milder weather. I don't like the heat either though. So looking at places like NC, SC, northern GA....but not FL. Or, maybe not....

It is also a place that attracts more than its share of those looking to get away from the rest of the world, and boy do they.....and Stephen King is not considered to be in the company of those you mentioned, even he wouldn't put himself there. His writing was once described as the literary equivalent of a Big Mac and fries. He would not argue with that: " If you wrote something and someone sent you a check, and it didn't bounce, I consider you talented."-Stephen King. By the way, he does love ME and once told students at a graduation there not to bother to even leave, because nothing else compares. I'd agree with him, in July and August....stunningly beautiful.

we went from 1983-1996 without getting more than a foot....( March 93 topped out around 10 of snow-sleet-zr ) so don't expect a HECS every few years. It is far more likely that we won't see one any time soon. But, it would be cool if we did....

I have had it with the rain. We need a break already. Cold and dry is fine, even warm and dry. This slop just sucks. Good for pneumonia, that's all.

What makes you think we would get a HECS? When you get rainy patterns like this, they tend to persist. You end up with a sleetfest or two sometimes, that's all. This was standard stuff most of the 90's. We'd have people driving into work from PA with snow on their cars, and nary a flake in our region....

Even there the winters are harsh. My BIL is near Lewiston-Augusta area and lived on a lake for years. it was great for two months of the year. To this day he rails against the snow; he is a ME native who moved to NJ for career reasons and moved right back to ME when he retired. He likes chopping wood all year and being in the middle of nowhere in a log cabin, so he puts up with the snow. He's a bit anti-social...but can fix anything and takes me fishing on his boat, so I deal....

After a week in northern ME you will be doing all you can to get back to civilization. Trust me on this one. Or keep going north to Quebec and learn French. You'll at least have Quebec City to keep you busy. Northern ME is just wilderness. Almost hit a moose up there.

FL is a depressing place, for a lot of reasons, though the fishing is good....you will run into lots of people there who came from snowy climates and never want to see cold weather or snow again, not even on a postcard.....

C'mon buddy....you're an experienced law enforcement officer now, no?....all ya gotta do is call up Buffalo, Rochester or Syracuse, and see if they need an experienced hand....I guarantee you a lot more snow and cold. After 25 years of that, I also am willing to bet you will retire to a sunny climate. Seriously, I like a good snow storm, but what they get up there wears on a person. You can try Portland, ME too, nice town, more snow, but maritime influences. Heck, Albany would probably be enough for you. Do it while you are young enough. Because the city and its environs are never gonna be consistent snow magnets.

Yep I remember patrolling the parking lot at Sunshine biscuits ( remember them ? ) and . listening to the ominous forecast; snow sleet and freezing rain, and a certain radio blowhard was going on about how that proved there was no global warming...even back then. That storm was vicious despite the lower totals here, as a few inches of frozen crust sat up the 10 inches of snow, making removal extremely difficult.