coastalplainsnowman

Also, the bitter, *bitter* miss in 1989 - either February or March. Almost the opposite of '83 in terms of expectation vs result. Left for school expecting a heavy snow to start mid day. Ended up with Not. A. Flake. It was the type of storm which today would have caused schools and businesses to close premptively. If memory serves, Atlantic City got 18" and Montauk got 12". That one left me convinced that an '83-like storm was never ever going to happen again. What a fitting way to end the 80s.

I remember years ago having to do a regression analysis for a statistics class in school. I picked the topic "is there a correlation between snowfall in November and an overall snowy winter", hoping to find a direct relationship between the two. I found no correlation, but didn't know if that's because there was really minimal to no relationship or because I was bad at statistics. I'm still not sure but I'm encouraged by what you said above.

Let's hope for a break from the trend of having one out of place, spirit destroying, hideous, 55+ degree day in the week leading up to Christmas, as we've seen in the majority of Decembers the past dozen years.

I don't think it will be a carbon copy of last year, only because that would be the first time in recorded history. For those raising the point that it's been much warmer lately, let's say we have a 1980s Baltimore / DC climate now. They still average between 16-20 inches of snow a year. That's still a few decent storms. What'd we get, 3-5" total along the coast last year? Raleigh, NC averages 5.2" a year. Are we in a Raleigh, NC climate? No. For those reasons I chalk last year up to being an anomaly which will not repeat this year. I hope this ages well.

Absolutely. I call that beating Murphy's Law by playing Murphy against himself.

I'll never forget this one. After a week without power following Sandy, it was finally restored hours before this storm hit. 3 hours later, right after the generator was finally tucked away, the power was out *again*, only to come back on the very moment after I'd cleared a spot in the snow, rolled the generator back out, and had fired it up. In the wind I believe I heard the weather gods mock me that night.

Wait, you took that pic doing 53 with a vehicle one car length ahead of you?

Hey figured a lot of folks on heee would like this: https://x.com/joecioffi/status/1717311370155229600?s=46

It's amazing how memories get distorted over time. I realize of course that 95/96 was far snowier than 93/94, but my memory of 93/94 is of nearly continuous snowpack, even in the street itself on some neglected side streets. 95/96 I think of like what was discussed yesterday - big snows but with warmups in between. I would have figured 95/96, even with all the snows, would have had half the days of 93/94. Wow.

A 30" snowstorm will always mean a lot, but I get your larger point. The reason is that most of us here don't know how to live in the moment and enjoy the damn snow while it is happening. Before the snow has started falling, we look ahead and say "it'll be melted in two days." Hell, during awesome banding we don't go out and enjoy it - we watch the banding *in the basement, on radar* and are sad *during the banding* because it's going to end in 20 minutes or whatever. The above might be a bit too autobiographical, but I know I'm not the only one. You know who you are. Anyway, that's why I (we?) don't like big storms sandwiched between warmth.

Am I correct to say that the radar in the Northeast is fairly unusual today? Reminds me of how it looks with an arctic blast, except instead of flurries there are tons of what look like mini thunderstorms, though in winter they'd be coming more from the NW than from the N/NNE.

If anyone has any predictions for the upcoming fall colors that would be great. Seems like most recent years the prediction was for muted colors due to little rain and above normal temps in the time period when they have the most impact. This year we've been kind of normal temp wise and way above rain wise, right? So maybe that means above normal vivid colors this year?

Taking this at face value, Massapequa Park seeing nearly 2" less than North Massapequa (4.73 to 2.79) is quite the dropoff.

Honest question - how does a type of tree acquire immunity to a beetle?

This is from the home page for the *Old* Farmer's Almanac. If I'm being honest, with the Northeast comfortably in the Snowy zone, this map evokes memories of those awesome 'A Look Ahead' maps from The Weather Channel in the 1980s. Memories as strong as childhood memories of the aroma of Mom's Sunday dinner.

During winter time, especially in the run-up to potential major winter storms, the emotional roller coaster which will be the Long Island Weather thread will be a treat. I'm not just a member, I'm also a client.

Out of the blue question here.. You now how today a lot of posters despair about climate change being the cause of our recent lack of snow, and fear that our days of snowy winters are numbered? In the late 70s when all the climate talk was about a "new ice age", are there any snow / winter lovers here old enough to remember that, and were really pumped up about the chance of awesome snowy winters for awhile before things really went downhill and the metro area became a permanent block of ice? Because I think that would be right on brand for many, including myself.

I'm wondering if, once we get into July, if we were to take the January 2023 average temperature and compare it to the June 2023 average temperature, if the delta would be among the smallest in recorded NYC history. Seems like, with a few exceptions of course, the weather has been calling for the same light coat each morning, all year.

Three years ago today: it snowed.

Hard to believe that on this day in 2020 our last snow sighting was still 16 days away.

Being inside one year now for the April 8th solar eclipse, I'm thinking of looking to book a room someplace in western new york directly in the path. I was wondering if anyone has thoughts on where might be a good town to visit? Trying to find someplace that will have some decent hotels but enough off the beaten path that it won't be jam packed, and also on the southern edge of the track.. Any advice would be much appreciated!

Awesome childhood memories. Simpler times. This one is a favorite of mine from WABC-TV. I may have even originally been introduced to this clip here years ago. Edit: Just saw that bluewave had posted the WABC-TV clip earlier in the other thread, so I removed it to reduce clutter here. Memories of watching this on the couch, thawing out, in for the day, while Mom put our soaked clothes in the dryer while something good was cooking on the stove. And I wonder why I enjoy the snow so much...

Interestingly enough, the Yankees could have probably hosted 81 games at the Stadium this winter with about the same amount of weather related cancellations as they do in a typical season.

Other arguments about social programs aside for the moment, the other key difference is that, as I understand it, those Nordic populations understand that there's no free lunch. In Denmark, if you make 30% over the average income, about $87,000 here, you're taxed at 55.9%. Plus a 25% consumption tax for everyone - again someone can correct me if I'm wrong on that. Who's ready to sign up for that here? Here, roughly 58% of Americans pay zero income tax. Yeah, I know, 7.6% Social Security and FICA, and local sales tax, but that's nothing compared to what they pay in the Nordic countries as mentioned above. If you confiscate every last dime of every US billionaire, you could run the country for a grand total of 8 months. Nevermind the fact there would never be another billionaire to tap ever again. Allow me to be master of the obvious and state that this isn't sustainable.

Did somebody say dessert?