coastalplainsnowman

Anyone have any idea why a map like this leaves out an area where 8.5 million people live (i.e. counties of Hudson, Richmond, Kings, Queens, Nassau, Suffolk?)

Hi all - I'm usually in the NYC Metro boards watching for snow. I was hoping to please get some insights on something I read today. I read a tweet from someone named Chris Martz who stated the following: "In 2009, experts told CBS News that the Arctic will be ice-free within 10-years' time. As of yesterday, there is more sea ice in the Arctic than there was when this prediction was made, and it has been tracking higher than 2005 just about every day this year." It seems like I'm always hearing totally divergent things about the level of Arctic sea ice - that it's at record lows, that it's above normal, etc. The tweet above is just the latest example. Why is there always (or seems to be always) such a wide range of news regarding Arctic sea ice, and how does it actually look currently compared to say 10, 25, 50 years ago? Thanks in advance..

"And coming up next, the forecast where we put the maps in motion.." This brings me right back. The 90's maps were a slightly polished upgrade over the maps of the 80s.

Long islanders, when I see this map all I can think is that Nassau/ Suffolk are overdone. I know that by me we were over to rain by at most 6”. I wouldn’t have thought that east of me would’ve been any better, but I maybe I’m misremembering.

Thanks for sharing, Don. I assume the blooms you have been photographing are ahead of schedule. Any idea by about how far ahead? Thanks.

It brings out two types of drivers. Drivers who think that larger top heavy vehicles should be driven faster than usual in rainy conditions, and drivers who think they should drive 25 in a 55. On the other hand I'm reminded of / humbled by George Carlin's line: "Have you ever noticed that everyone who drives slower than you is an idiot, and everyone who drives faster than you is a maniac?"

The word you're searching for isn't 'callous.' It's something else. Why not go all in and ask for a cat 5? Oh wait, that would be ridiculous.

The saddest thing is that it’s only early March and yet there’s not even the opportunity to think “maybe this next storm could be snow,”. It might as well be June. It’s like the very concept of snow has been memory-holed, a month earlier than usual.

To paraphrase a famous economist: In the long range, we are all warm.

What's wild about 2010 having 54 90 degree days is the fact that that year was bookended by a lot of snow. Didn't Newark hit 106 that summer? That was the year with the brutal soaking and windy March storm which uprooted as many trees as a hurricane. All followed by 2011 and 2012 with Irene, the earthquake, and capped off by Sandy, itself ending with a significant early November snow. We lived in interesting weather times.

I mention that one because it's the closest one to me. It was notable to me how much bang for the buck we got, snowcover-wise, out of the two little storms we got this year. Especially that first one, snow hung around longer than some much larger storms we've had in the past. We didn't have too much crazy warmth, snow-eating fog, etc.

If there was a stat for 'average sporadic snowcover' or something like that, I wonder where this winter would rank on LI. It might be as high as 'only' 25th worst by such a measurement. On that note, any idea where it stands with regard to the official snowcover statistic at say KFRG? I'm not familiar with where to find that.

I think the difference is that Patterson's annual snowfall is 150-200% of Commack's average. In a place that averages 50+" a year, a 60% of normal year still looks and feels wintry. In a place that averages half that, like much of LI, a 60% of normal year looks like a brown winter with a few sporadic barely plowable events. 60^ of Patterson's snowfall is a darn solid winter on LI.

The depressing part is that if a 7 year stretch is possible with temps like they had then, how long a streak is possible if we remain at our recent averages? I realize there are other factors at work, and that there hasn't been a strong correlation between temps and snow yet, but it's not helping.

Just noticed that the 9.9" Coney Island reading was stricken. Wouldn't have been that far off though, as there multiple 8"+ surrounding it, including a 10" on Staten Island. What an interesting storm. The wide range of totals look like how rainfall totals look after a night of scattered strong T storms.

That's the era that owns the longest stretch without a six inch storm right? Only much warmer too. Two words: ugh.

Just checking the NWS Upton observations. 9.9 Coney Island and 7.6 Bay Ridge? Was just scrolling up here and didn't see that mentioned, and those stand out against the other readings. Those are pretty remarkable no?

With all the discussion that's gone on here about relatively snowless periods, the fact that there was a 7 year stretch in which no storm dropped 6" that we haven't talked much about is incredible. Can't imagine pulling for a 6"+ snowstorm knowing it would be our first since January 2017. Eyeballing some rough maps I just found, I see that the 30 year climate average for 1931-1960 was the warmest one since 1901 for around here until being surpassed ever since starting with the 1971-2000 numbers, so maybe that played a role. Anyway, what a dreadful stretch. I bet that the mood on the internet weather boards in February 1956 was pretty sour.

I felt the same way - melting started instantly. Such a different feel between storms that start cold and end colder, clear, and crisp, and a mild storm like this one, where there are puddles even during the storm (though i'm sure my experience on LI was different than N&W). But anyway I guess after 744 days beggars can't be choosers.

"My wife and I were going to go out for dinner but the doorman said the weather is fit for neither man nor beast. So we both stayed home." - Henny Youngman.

Not only that, but sometimes names will pop up that have 15,000 posts and I wonder how did I never see this handle before? Then I think maybe it's me who's 'popping up' since I'm only here in earnest when it snows and maybe they're here year round. Unless posters change names, if that's a thing?

Trying to be that precise with the shading is admirable. Between the population density and the intricacies of the geography, the mets around here should get degree of difficulty points. That thing looks like the gerrymandered NYS congressional district map (historical not political statement - all parties do it.) I'm glad I'm not responsible for having to draw that.

Watching storms like this is like watching a college basketball game between two rivals. The whole game may be exciting, but it's always the last 2 minutes that decide it, and we're at like the 12 minute mark of the second half.

Precisely. Imagine if they ever used a graphic like this, which doesn't cover nearly as many people:

Man we (including me) just do not know how to enjoy a snowstorm on our doorstep. Finally it looks like a mostly snow event for everyone, and right on cue begins the debate about school closures. I don't know how to enjoy it either so here's a variation on it: Since when did suburban sanitation collection grind to a halt the moment we get two inches of snow? And not even delayed til the next day. Just skipped as if the day never even happened.