coastalplainsnowman

Man, someone is living their best life right now.

Back then it seemed like clippers were all we had. The sense was that anything big coming up the coast was preordained to be a heartbreaker snow to rain, if not outright rain for those of us near the coast. But if you could get in that narrow target zone of the clipper you were in business. Small business, but still business. And whereas today, a storm taking the traditional clipper path seems to frequently be a bad setup for us, where it's always marginal, back then I don't recall that being a problem (maybe because generally it was colder?) Then you'd get a nice enhancement etc action once in a while that would turn the 2-4 into the beloved 3-6 (6-12 in the 80s was fantasyland except for the few famous storms.) Edit: one more thing. The biggest nod to how great the 2000-2018 period was is that we don't refer storms as the "Blizzard of '78", "Blizzard of '83", etc. as if we be hearty sea captains. We had so many storms during that time that that kind of went away.

1-5? 2-6? 1-6? Is this not a first for these sorts of ranges? 1-6 is awfully close to 0-6. I get that may be the best we can do, but, if I may be scientific for a moment, that looks weird man.

You guys familiar with Metallica's 'Enter Sandman', which Mariano Rivera used to enter to, because he put the game to sleep? Well we have 'Enter Snowman', who seems to do the same for snowstorms. I'm working on lyrics.

I don't think that tells the whole story though. What these boards definitely provide is that anyone who follows closely here will almost *never* be surprised by a weather event. You can see them up to a mile away, or 360 hours, to be exact. Sure, they often don't materialize, but I never see a non-layman on here calling anything a certainty outside 72 hours. When they do materialize though, it's a thing of beauty. When that L appears out of nowhere off the NC coast within a few hours of when a model predicted it 120 hours prior, that's pretty cool. But if that same storm travels 25 W of where it was predicted to go, some will complain that everything s*cks. It reminds of the Louis CK bit where there's a guy on a plane who just learned about the miracle of in-flight internet, and when it goes down he starts complaining as if it was a birthright.

LibertyBell you have some awesome responses sometimes. They remind me of Kramer from Seinfeld. Apolitical, above the fray of the heated debate, the first thing that comes to your mind is: "you guys are really doing parrots an injustice here." lol that's great.

Amazing. Due north of me. I love these events that are a line of pure snow from well into Canada, allllll the way south, hundreds and hundreds of miles, right down to.... 6 miles north of me, where it becomes rain.

This seems underdone.

Back then the local weather would've been the original basic white techie all caps font on a dark blue / purple background, except of course in the case of a WSW when you'd get the beautiful warning tone, the red screen, and the scroll. Man this evokes A Christmas Story like memories for me.

source?

I think that's the case for the northern half of Suffolk, but I feel like the southern half behaves pretty much the same for the length of the island. @NorthShoreWxcould definitely weigh in on this.

we're doing it wrong

Right, but didn't you say that you're 4'2"?

Was this the one that somewhat disappointed west of Suffolk, really disappointed west of Nassau, and monumentally disappointed west of NYC?

I generally agree. I'll take the 1.5" tundra we've got right now for all of January over two 6" fast melters that don't want to stick to the street. Naturally it doesn't hold up at the extremes though. Once you approach a foot, then I might take that option even if it's gone in two days.

Not a doctor here, but if you're an adult with a fever like that and you still have it now, get yourself to a doctor. Fever out of the blue like that could be pneumonia. Have someone listen to your lungs. Happened to me. Get well soon!

The Gulf apparently preferred the name Gulf of Mexico. "Gulf of America? I'll show you Gulf of America."* *Current events related humor not intended to express a political preference.

Is winter storm warning criteria region specific? I always assumed that the criteria for Upton is different than some site in the Rockies which is different than for the Gulf coast?

Bluewave, been thinking about something that I wonder if you (or anyone who'd like to) could weigh in on. Given all the variables involved in weather forecasting, it seems like even with all the variables which have been identified in the past 50 years as being correlated with given events, that because there are so many variables overall, and because the overall population of winters available to study, let alone winters which meet a given profile, is so small, that it makes long term regional forecasting very difficult. If we had 500 years of such data that'd be another story, but even then there would be long term changes underway that could be difficult to pick up. In short, it seems like an almost impossible task, and I'm glad I'm not the one trying to do it.

We've had so many 80s references around here lately I'm about to break out the J Geils album and the Pac Man Fever single. The 80s were great. Sorry, banter. But true.

Totally agree. Having had to get acclimated to even a modest stretch of 30s the past few weeks made a sunny and calm 42 today feel beautiful, as you say.

That's what makes it even more of a shame. The guy had been averaging over 35 HRs / 100 RBIs a year and was already at between 400-450 HRs when he likely started. If memory serves from that BALCO book, he was jealous of all the attention McGuire and Sosa were getting in 1998, yet looking up his 1998 he was 'only' 37/122/.303. Having said that, given that he was getting into his mid 30s, and the fact that he averaged 52 HRs a year from 2000-2004, I don't think it's a stretch to say that it increased his production by 50%. I know that's less than Liberty's number, but the point is that right around the time that his neck disappeared, something sure seemed to have a significant effect.

To your point about one higher than average season affecting the average, would you happen to have the median snowfall for each decade? That would be really interesting to see.

Exactly. I go back to DarkStar's cold/moisture/luck triangle again. We always need things to come together just right anyway. It's like when there's news that eating a certain food increases your chance of getting disease X by 10%. Ok, but the actual odds only went from 1:10,000 to 1:9,000. In other words it's unlikely to happen regardless. And the average temperature in the 2000s and 2010s, when we had a bounty of storms big and small, was higher than in the 80s. I guess I just wanted to take your very succinct, well-stated point and restate it in a convoluted and probably error-filled way.