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It's trying to get under LI

We're certainly going to need all the dynamic support we can.

It's coming. All frustrations of this winter will come to an end Monday/Tuesday. Then we can all look forward to and embrace 90's with deep humidity

I am getting extremely excited. I think we're going to go out with a big bang. There will be some that certainly get screwed but that's the nature of the game. This is when the Euro retakes the throne. I want to be hearing snap, crackle, pop Monday night and not from my cereal.

Invisible unless you’re looking at trees

I agree with this. I became onboard with the idea of getting tons of snow in late February and March b/c it won’t last but I would just much rather get drilled with snow in January and February (and December) and once March comes…we Morch.

Correct EDIT: Ray finished with the layup

I don’t think you want a system that is bombing too crazy and too rapidly. Those scenarios the precip tends to become more banded. This is why we hold the benchmark as a Godsend. If that happens over the benchmark…it’s happening in a location where everyone can cash in.

Ensembles have given us our “field goal posts”. It’s going to be up to OP now to sniff out the timing and interaction.

All in all I think the ensembles are going a great job. They're doing what they're supposed to do, help to eliminate or reduce spread and that's what we're seeing. Obviously, given the time of year, there are alot more challenges to contend with, especially outside of the interior and elevation. The details which will matter with that, however, likely aren't going to be resolved with the ensembles. This is where consistency of OP runs (mode-to-model and run-to-run) will become extremely important as we get to the 72-84 hour mark.

True, but all that does at this stage is keep expectations at bay and just illustrates that subtle differences regarding the timing of phasing will have a huge impact overall. 18z or 0z could tick more east with the majority of members...that wouldn't or shouldn't change any thinking yet...we're still a bit too far out in time.

ENS still show members which are very solid and great hits. Yes it has members which are certainly west and inland, but right now, any scenario of big hit vs. mostly rain is in play

In that regard, yes that is definitely a concern, but on the other hand, if this materializes like the 12z Euro, it wouldn't be much of a concern. Obviously (outside of the elevations and interior) we're looking for near-perfection.

I'm not concerned with the EPS, at least at this stage. If anything, we now have pinned this down to a very narrow corridor of track/development. With that, it's all just going to come down to precise timing of when the phasing occurs. I suspect we are going to be walking a fine line until probably 24-hours out b/c a very slight difference (slightly earlier vs. slightly later) is going to mean the world (for many).

need to save some trees for the derechos this summer

Just imagine this. I mean there would certainly be a subsidence screw zone but given the evolution the chances of the CCB traversing the majority of the region would be high and this would likely sit and pivot somewhere...that's when you're going to be talking about the potential for some obscene totals.

It's fun watching the evolution of 850/925 temps in the 12-hour period. You can easily spot where the CCB is

That is an absolute crush job for them. The upslope would be insane. Still some work to do elsewhere, but not out of the cards yet.

Very nice

At least we won't have to deal with this uncertainty once severe weather season comes. It's cold front approaches, we get severe weather, boom...easy peasy

If I had to lean in any direction right now it's that we will eventually see a stronger consensus towards the southern vort outrunning the northern vort. There seem to be some decent signals that would favor the northern vort slowing down a bit.

Precisely why it's not worth getting all emotional from run-to-run. This gets said all the time at this stage, but this (especially this type of scenario) is where ensembles hold most weight. Like you said, there are a ton of different combos we can see and an OP is just going to show one of those combos and that doesn't necessarily mean it's holds the most weight.

I wouldn't worry too much with what models have for 2m temps verbatim, no matter the solution and forgot the garbage snowfall maps. The degree of upper-level dynamics which will be in place will support the potential for rapid deepening and cyclogenesis (obviously it's a matter of getting everything to phase and align). In the event we see a favorable phase, dynamics will then take over. Combination of increasing llvl convergence and ulvl divergence along will work to cool the profile and if you can get a favorable low track/placement you'll even increase the odds for a cold enough profile down to the coast. But the one thing models will struggle with is the 2M temperatures in these scenarios. Remember, they're going to want to scale towards climo in a sense. but if you were to look at 2M temps at this stage and see 34-35 (even in the most explosive runs), I would be willing to bet at verification time the temps are more 32-33.

These are not necessarily true.

All that matters now is how each model (and subsequent runs) continue to handle the evolution of the northern stream and southern stream. All you're looking for is consistency regarding evolution and trying to eliminate scenarios and hone in on as few scenarios as possible. the verbatim details of temp profiles, p-type, QPF, etc. are irrelevant at this stage.