michsnowfreak

Icy day in SE MI

I just posted this in the March discussion thread but it's worth repeating. They're getting excited in new england for multiple threats. And southern ne has had a far worse Winter than us. Every subforum has your crowd of "it's been a bad Winter so it's not going to snow in March" and some of them are gonna be dead wrong.

They're getting excited in new england for multiple threats. And southern ne has had a far worse Winter than us. Every subforum has your crowd of "it's been a bad Winter so it's not going to snow in March" and some of them are gonna be dead wrong.

March 2014 & 2015 were fun because of the deep snow. But yes overall exciting wise? It's been a while

Let's do a snowy march! February broke the stretch of getting buried so maybe March can break the stretch of being zzzz

Had a trace of snow and sleet at the onset otherwise it's been all freezing rain here

I didn't know you went up north

Yes. It's the only one I can recall

Hey you said winter headline lol. Jokes aside there's probably been more than you think of with some sort of headline. I think Jan 1999 was a statewide storm. But obviously many storms that do well for us don't do much for the rest of the state (most recent example Jan 25th) and most storms that do well elsewhere screw us.

Technically lol Dec 22, 2022

The April 2018 ice storm here had lots of ice accretion on trees and grass but minimal pavement. And I do want to stand corrected we also had a February 2019 ice storm but I was up North during it. So that would be the last real ice storm here.

SE MI forecast is so damn tricky with this one. Last real ice storm here (not counting minor glazing) was Apr 15, 2018. And before that it had been several years. Ironically the most ice storms were centered around the least snowy decade (1940s).

I'm sorry you were in a screw hole. My main point was the past several winters in most of SE MI were near climo (actually slightly snowier than climo at most stations last winter). This winter is not. And a sucky winter doesn't mean nothing happens in mar/apr. Maybe we go the rest of the way with no more measurable snow. Maybe we get a huge snowstorm. Or more than likely somewhere in between. You must be awfully close to 20, so you'll likely hit it.

DTW was at 9.0" thru Mar 19, 1983. Then got 11" in spring. That said, I can't imagine going thru that Winter here. My mom was pregnant with me so I guess I kinda did lol.

Spring isn't happening . Jokes aside, I'd easily bet money that ORD-DTW gets more winter.

Let's see if we get a big March snowstorm. All guidance looking cold mid March.

Yeah Dec 2000 was awesome. The rest of the winter was zzzz city. Not sure about the overall national pattern tho.

We had a blizzard in Feb 1965, it only dropped 11" but the winds were ferocious, and there were massive drifts. The 1960s were not that exciting of a decade snow wise here so that storm was by far the highlight of the decade

That is awful. Maybe take a trip further upstate New York or Pennsylvania or something just to at least see some snow. I've had 20" but I still took a trip to the upper peninsula lol. I would have taken one even if it was a great winter here. It's good for the snow weenies mental health to get away to the Winter wilderness.

Those winters were absolute furnaces in this area of the Midwest and there is plenty of documentation of that regardless of what station you use. Lol so now we are supposed to just get rid of older warm winters. Winter 1881-82 is detroits warmest winter on record BY FAR. Nothing has come close to touching it. Winter 1877-78 is well documented as Minnesotas year without a winter. 1931-32 has lots of newspaper stories of things blooming and growing throughout the winter (til March got cold).

Or I could just take a time machine to LAST Winter when we had ice 3 feet thick ice on local lakes in Southern Michigan and I spent a weekend in 3+ feet of snow on the ground in the UP.

I would hardly call the winter one long dreary autumn in SMI, even tho you got locally screwed in your first winter in SE MI and last winter in SW MI. Hell in 2021 I had 15" depth and 2+ foot drifts in my yard in Feb. For Detroit officially, the last 3 winters finished very close to climo snow-wise. 2021-22: 47.1"...50 days w/ 1"+ snowcover 2020-21: 44.9"...48 days " " 2019-20: 43.7"...41 days " " For comparison, current 30-year normals are 45.0" snow, 47 days 1"+ snowcover and longterm avg is 41" snow, 50 days. So while I understand your backyard locally had been screwed to an extent, the last 3 winters in the Detroit area were climo winters which circles back to what Harry alluded to. After so many years being spoiled the 1st 2 decades of this century, average is not acceptable for a snow weenie. Obviously this winter sucks. But with a while to go, it's going to end up in the sucky and forgettable category, not futility

Basically the same deal here. The 2000s/2010s drove the averages up up up and now we are back to reality. And 1930-1960 was the absolute pits for snow here.

I got back from spending 5 days in the beautiful U.P. I got to see 5 more days with snow on the ground to add to the 25 days I've had at home, making this Winter a little more bearable. Had a great time with some gorgeous scenery but I do have to say the bad snow year is evident everywhere. I've been going to snow belt areas on a Winter trip for 17 years now and I can never recall seeing so few snowmobilers because the conditions are so bad. Many trails are dirt and ice. The snow pack was unusually low everywhere. There was around 15 to 18" of snow on the ground in Houghton. They should have about 3 to 4'. I stayed in a remote area near L'anse (just outside the huron mtns and keewenaw) and had 8 to 11" in the yard. There was grass with just patches and piles of snow at the mackinaw bridge and in St Ignace when you enter the upper peninsula. My brother, who joined us on the trip coming up from Chicago, noted that once he got north of Green Bay (where they had a few fresh inches of snow the day before) there was absolutely no snow on the ground in northern Wisconsin for a stretch. This made me think of beavis's rants and how even north of 45 North it is not a good Winter. It's a stinker and they happen. Next year is practically bound to be a better pattern (though I'm sure there will be have and have nots). The most snow I saw was near Munising, a bit over 2 feet (last year they had 4-5 feet otg at this time).

I think/hope he is joking. 1 crap Winter is not a new climo lol