michsnowfreak

Exactly. Every event there are so many factors that play in to what kind of snow ratios you will see and model output perfecting this is a long way away. Knowing your climate certainly helps, but even that is only a part of the puzzle. In some cold events we see the flip side of this scenario, and we get a lot more snow than is forecast because it's so fluffy. Using all the above factors you mentioned, and especially important is giving a forecast range of amounts, it's all you guys can do and hope for the best lol. Unfortunately in the day when there are so many social media hypesters you guys will always take the flack.

They're fun to look at but those snow algorithms are taken too seriously by most, myself included. You always hear "___ model overdid amounts" etc but really we should be looking at the qpf.

What a cardio workout it was. Sucks to miss the best snows to my nw but can't complain because it was expected amd the snowband was relatively narrow to begin with. This was a very spring like winter storm. Made its own cold air, blew in and roared with ferocity, now the next day is sunny, calm, and very melty/drippy.

Your area jackpotted

Ratios were an issue (as feared) more than qpf for the immediate south burbs. It was like when you pour water in sand to make a sand castle.

Not sure if you got any rain/sleet, but it absolutely compacted here after pouring rain/sleet. 3.5 wet snow + rain/sleet + 2.0 wet snow = depth 4.2 of absolute concrete. DTW finished with 6.2", liquid total 1.11". Morning depth 5". With 6.2" at DTW, they have leap frogged me on season total, sitting at 27.4". My 5.5" puts me at 27.1". Love this lol: WEATHER CONDITIONS THE FOLLOWING WEATHER WAS RECORDED YESTERDAY. THUNDERSTORM LIGHT RAIN HEAVY SNOW SNOW LIGHT SNOW FOG FOG W/VISIBILITY <= 1/4 MILE HAZE BLOWING SNOW

Going with 5.5" here on approx 1.15" liquid. Measured before & after the 75 minute sleet/rain deluge. Depth is about an inch lower. It's like shoveling sleet. Never saw a more dense blanket of snow. Season to date now 27.1".

Not sure if they reopened but I heard DTW airport temporarily shut down and had incoming flights diverted to Chicago.

This is our 3rd potent Winter storm since January 25th. And to be honest, while snow fell short, the Arctic blizzard conditions were something to see December 22nd as well. I was recently telling a wx friend from ny about the winter of 2001-02 and how as warm as it was there were a couple real good winter storms. It seems that the real mild Winters heighten our chance for some potent storms. That said, I'll still always take a cold/snowcover winter first.

Lost some Balsam limbs. These poor trees lol. 3rd winter storm since Jan 25 that they've taken a beating.

Wild storm. Blizzard conditions, then it poured sleet and rain for over an hour, multiple lightning strikes and rumbles of thunder and now back to snow. Over an hour straight of nonstop pinging is frustrating but can't say it wasn't expected here. Was at 3.7" Before it switched to heavy sleet and rain. Snow is so heavy its crazy. Shoveling will be a cardio workout.

Incredible out. Air is so thick with wet snow. Winds howling. Very low visibility. Love it!

I swear I heard thunder already

Snowing beautifully out and sticking to everything. Really curious to see what the higher we turns do when they get here

We started as light rain and sleet, now it is snowing.

Are you leaning snow?

For as mild as the Winter has been overall, this will likely be the 3rd storm to come with damage. There were several tree limbs and a few wires down after the January 25th snowstorm, tons of destruction after the February 22nd ice storm, and I can't imagine there NOT being issues with the weight of this snow in the hardest hit areas today. This is our 4th warning of the season Dec 22- Winter Storm Warning Jan 25- Winter Storm Warning Feb 22- Ice Storm Warning Mar 3- Winter Storm Warning

Still nervous about rain/sleet, but also excited. Could be some insane snowfall rates!

I don't think anyone sees a foot but could be good rates somewhere.

I'm telling you, don't let a mild Winter jade you so much. The stretch of sub par Decembers and Snowy Februaries are more than likely an unusual coincidence. After all, the region has seen an unusual number of early and late snowfalls in recent years as well. Chicago had a white Halloween a few years ago and Detroit had a white Mother's Day a few years ago. Also, days with snow on the ground has shown no longterm decrease. We can continue the conversation in PM if you'd like, but i don't want to derail this storm thread

2020-21 was not a very mild Winter here at all. Even in the mild Winters the past decade we've had some good cold storms. There's just been a lot of bad luck this year. Hell, even we all had an extremely cold snow fall in December this year. But sorry, it's absolutely ridiculous to say DTW will become the new CMH. Even if our Winters magically warmed 4 degrees, We are surrounded by the Great Lakes which Columbus is not. I mean climate change is real but the way one mild Winter with subpar snow jades people is really over the top. Dtw temp departures last 10 winters 2022-23: +5.0 2021-22: -0.4 2020-21: +0.3 2019-20: +4.2 2018-19: +0.5 2017-18: -1.1 2016-17: +4.5 2015-16: +5.1 2014-15: -5.1 2013-14: -7.5

No worries. Because because I'm not transitioning to a CMH climate. Lmao Detroit literally just had their snowiest decade on record in the 2010s. I do not go off the deep end because of one lousy Winter

The last few winters have been fine. Only this Winter has been crap. I would not call the winters of 2020-21 and 2021-22 ones with few meager opportunities. Hell, snow depths in February 2021 were 15" in Detroit, 18" in Toledo, and 21" in Chicago.

This line from dtx says it all "major boom or bust potential"

It's nice to see the consistency with the 00Z models