michsnowfreak

You had a May snowfall?

True. I had 96.2" and Detroit 94.9" in 13-14. But it wasnt JUST the snow, it was the severity of the winter. The brutal cold, winds, and nonstop blowing snow which is why i have a hard time seeing that winter matched for overall severity. In shear terms of snowfall, especially with it seemingly increasing in the lakes, id say its definitely possible.

Impossible lol. But i can dream.

some fall color shots this past weekend in SE MI

Most years areas they get MUCH less snow than you, and less snow than me, get snow before us out in the Plains. Obviously the northern plains get harder hit but even further south. Just how it works, and a sign that Winter is knocking on the door!

The northern plains are set to see a potentially historic snowstorm in a few days that is "unheard of for October" in terms of size and intensity. This is after the more isolated but very intense Montana snowstorm last week. Two unheard of snow storms before mid October!!! Perhaps it will be signs of a wild Winter this year. The northern plains and Western States usually get snow before us, but this is quite an early start!

Yeah last winter did not deliver any big storms here (biggest 6.1") and was below avg in snowfall despite colder than avg temps for the cold season. Despite this i had never seen a winter here with so many ice storms. Ice (outside of a few minor glazes) had been really missing in action for a while here. It was still a fairly "wintry" winter, just nothing exciting in the snow department here. Which after so many years of se mi snowmagnet, i can share some. But im certainly hoping for a snowy winter this year!

Hoping for a good Winter sub forum wide!

The duration of that heat here has certainly lessened compared to what it looked like it would be, it's basically going to be one very warm sultry day tomorrow come up but it will definitely feel like July. So glad crisp autumn weather is right on its heels.

Wow what a rollercoaster the first week of October will be. Possibly from July heat to November chill.

Remember though this is a new GFS then we had last fall. Support is definitely growing for a cold shot around this time although it would not surprise me if the GFS was over doing it at the very beginning of the cold season. Actually the most annoying thing about this new GFS is it's outrageous "urban heat island" anomalies around all the big cities which are completely unrealistic. Definitely a kink that needs to be worked out.

Does not look too persistent past this weekend

As the fall color show is in its early stages, I wonder if the warmer than average temperatures will have any effect?

Late June at that. It was hoodie weather WELL into June. Then July was hot and humid almost continuously, and then August started hot and ended cool.

I have noticed the early fall color showing up and I hope the upcoming warm weather does not screw with it. This will be the 1st real heat we've had since mid-late August. Detroit had 10 days of 90ﾟ this year, which is to below average, but all 10 came between June 28 and July 29th.

Yes they did. And unlike Milwaukee, DTW is not located in the urban core, rather it is an outlying area. Actually near the airport is a sort of rural area, and the South end of the airport valleys so temperatures get much colder, especially at night. On February 20, 2015 when DTW officially had -13ﾟ, when I drove by that spot on the South side of my car registered -22ﾟ. I would not want the thermometer located there either, because thats sort of unfairly low, but I too am convinced that the current placement of the thermometer is causing readings to be a bit elevated compared to surrounding areas.

The Europe heatwave is something. Also, a huge summer cold snap is going on in Russia.

I have complained multiple times about Detroit having the same issue that you describe in Milwaukee. It seems it's not a problem with the thermometer themself, but rather the immediate area/environment surrounding the station, as well as exact station location. The thermometer itself is probably accurate, but i admit it irks me when tenths of degrees are so important for certain things, but official climate records are VERY subject to changes from past years due to asos placement.

Pretty much all of southern lower Michigan has been cloudier than normal the past year. Its crazy.

Spring weather is enjoyable, Spring allergies are NOT.

I heard someone else say they would take 65ﾟ every day of the year. I would hate the same thing any kind all year long lol. Different strokes for different folks, but I'm sure you'd miss the changeable weather if it really was 75° and Sunny every day haha.

Sun has been a rare commodity these days too, so looks like great weather for the game. Now the Tigers need to get a damn win!

Lol too funny. Though Chicago and Toledo do average a very similar annual snowfall total.

I am aware that I am in the minority and I do not care one bit.

It's almost comical, like clockwork I got a horrible headache on March 21st and had another one this morning. To say that I hate Spring would be a gross understatement. We have 4 seasons, Winter, allergy, summer, and fall. I'll take another Winter in April like last year. In fact I will take that every year. Everything dormant then in the 1st week of May everything exploded. The more gradual the Spring green up is, the worse allergies are.