michsnowfreak

Not true. 6 of the past 10 winters here had above avg snowfall, and 4 out of 10 were colder than normal. The bottom line is long range forecasting is very difficult and with social media all over the place jumping on extreme model runs, there needs to be much much much more caution thrown to the general public when the seasonal forecasts are issued.

Bingo. Its miserable. I mean, I deal with it, but everyone has a least favorite time of year and that is mine.

If we get one more storm, I'm fine with a pleasant April. April-May is by far my least favorite time of the year (with the exception of opening day and my may 8th birthday lol), so it is what it is. If Detroit gets 5.9" of snow between now and the end of the season, with all its up's and down's, we will hit average snowfall.

How about april 1886 redux? Fitting that a frustrating winter which started with a record snowstorm ends with one too lol.

March opened a Winter wonderland, and 4 days later it looks and feels like spring. At least you got one last snowstorm before you hit the road

Agree, but it would have seemed much better if we could have compressed it by swapping Nov and Dec 1"+ snowcover days at Detroit Nov- 9 (record) (avg 2) Dec- 2 (avg 10) Jan- 12 (avg 17) Feb- 15 (avg 14) Mar- 1 so far (avg 6) Apr- ? (Avg 1) 39 to date...seasonal avg 50

After I posted that...man the snow got nuked. Just some piles left. The rogue drift here and there.

Upper 40 temps and dews and a compact area of heavy rain moved through this morning, absolutely nuked the snow down to just piles and drifts.

A world of difference on this side of Lake Michigan compared to the 60s that hit Chicago on West. Nevertheless, you could feel the warmth in the sun (after a low of 18, high 43 today). Still some drifty snow remains, but allergy season (some call it "spring") is encroaching.

Just a warm Winter and some extra bad luck for Evansville and Paducah. These winters going to happen from time to time. Seeing as though they only average 8 to 10" for met Winter, I'm surprised this has not happened more often to be honest with you.

Extended continues to look active. Thinking several more snow systems in the offing, the more north one is the better.

Actually i hate that phrase lol. But anyway, March is the last thing on my mind with an active look to February.

Sounds good. Fingers crossed!!!

Gradient pattern really setting up on the GFS for a bit

It was a crap year for sure, though that period had a lot of stinkers. At Detroit. 1941-42 saw only 23.4" total (15th least snowy winter on record(, and only 20 days had 1"+ snowcover (by comparison, this winter so far is at 21.9" and 23 days thru Jan 30). The largest snowstorm in 1941-42 was 4.2" on Apr 9/10, and the peak obs time snow depth all season was 3". Looking at Columbus, after a 2.5" snowfall in early Jan 1942, the next largest snowfall that season was 0.3".

Id panic if i was in NYC and rejoice in Minneapolis. Here in Detroit, i feel a bit nervous but mostly confident that more snowstorms are in the offing.

I have to admit it looks better for us than you, but it looks better for you than jbs i95 fanclub. He always has an extreme east coast bias and I will admit, it's not looking as good for them, so I'm sure throwing in the towel refers to the East Coast. It is still strange to hear him admit that though lol.

Lol what does this mean?

Hopefully the epo pans out. I mean even if it doesnt, a storm can track nw and still bring heavy snow, i only have to look back to Jan 19 to see that. But if it pans out i love the look. No -nao would keep otherwise suppression in check.

I like the way the extended looks for storminess around the Lakes for Feb. Buckle up and lets see what happens.

Oh my...youve not yet had the tips covered!?

I love northern Michigan, and I try to go up there several times a year. Its not so much snow chase thing as I am just going to enjoy the deep snow outdoors. Whether snow is falling or not is irrelevant, though obviously show falling is preferred. Actually it's kind of funny, almost every year until last year, it hardly ever snows when I'm up there lol. Tons on the ground, but no snow falling. Obviously, I get the backyard thing, we are all that way to a certain extent. I am worried about my backyard and I also I'm a big time stat guy so I love comparing what's going on locally to past years. You have to remember when I simply state how much snow is fallen this year, or that we are around average, that is not to say I am enjoying this Winter. I would gladly take less snow in total for more snow cover and cold. That is just my preference. But the scenes that we had here in early to mid November were unprecedented with the deep powder on the ground, heck even this past week was concrete, so it all adds into things. I've never seen a Winter behave the way this one has so far, so I have no idea what to expect the rest of the way. We had a winter in the mid 80s when I was too young to remember where we racked up around 55" of snow without a single warning criteria event, complete with snow depths around a foot in February. I would take that in a heartbeat. It sounds crazy to say that we've already had 2 warning criteria snowstorms at the midway point but this Winter feels so frustrating.

Its invigorating being outdoors in deep winter. I have taken a snow trip north annually, since 2007, with the above mentioned exceptions of 2014 and 2015. I love going up there (to visit, not live lol). Also, in more "open" winters like this one, i take advantage of those pristine winter days and go out and enjoy. I fully understand those south of i80 have more right to complain, but for those of us who have had some nice winter days, why some people choose to sit at home lamenting the continued crud pattern on models and staring at a computer screen wondering how quickly the snow will melt....rather than go out and enjoy the winter wonderland right out their window...ill never understand.

I go every year, except 2014 and 2015 bc when you have feet of snow in your own yard, enjoy lol.

I agree about digital snow maps. I was referring to looping the 24 hr precip on the gefs on tidbits. Its consistently shown a lot of precip in that timeframe, usually its a lot of widespread light qpf that far out. Im not counting on anything, just pointing out the interesting snow maps.