michsnowfreak

Actually i hate that phrase lol. But anyway, March is the last thing on my mind with an active look to February.

Naturally the details are shifting all over the place but a signal for an active week is pretty damn good.

11-12s sucktitude receives more than enough discussion so it goes without saying. The winter sucked, but was not a futility winter. 06-07 & 15-16 were somewhat below avg but nowhere near futility. 1952-53 is probably one of the worst winters ever at Detroit. The total snowfall of 16.6" ranks it "only" as 7th least snowy on record. Only 16 days had 1"+ of snowcover, and 13 of those 16 recorded a depth of 1"! The other 3 had a depth of 2". The largest snow of the season was 3.2", but like many others it included some rain and melting, ao while its possible depth was 3" for a bit, 52-53 remains the only winter on record to not see an obs time snow depth of 3"+. It is also the only winter on record to have no snow depth over a T after Jan 31st.

Yes which is why its crazy that we havent had the usual small to mid-size events that make up our climo. Here are the top 5 events at DTW this season so far 9.2" (Nov 11/12) 6.8" (Jan 18) 1.3" (Dec 31) 1.1" (Jan 7/8) 0.7" (Jan 5) Completely at odds with our typically climo

We are already at just piles. This is day 10 without sun. The warmup sun and mon seems unavoidable but then the possible fun begins.

I don't think any of us would trade a 25" blizzard for a 4" storm. However, if you read some of the other sub forums they literally get excited over a few flakes of snow. When the famine is here, it isnt fun lol. Flakes fall in the lakes pretty much every day even in terrible patterns that are not torching. So many different climates make up North America

Haha strictly just conversation. I love our entire state and all the lakes that surround it. I will be in Munising February 16-19, and looks active here before that, so hoping for lots of winter fun!

Im sure they have. It was strictly a snowfall comparison as to what the UP might average without lakes. Winnipeg, like Minneapolis only even more so, certainly makes the most snow cover wise out of the amount of snowfall they receive. But we were strictly discussing how much snow the Great Lakes may avg... without the Great Lakes

Winnipeg averages 45", about the same as Detroit or Boston

Sounds good. Fingers crossed!!!

Actually even that's not true. Snow weenies in washington dc or cincinnati would kill to have the winter Detroit or chicago has had thus far. Its all relative. I was up in bos neck of the woods in 2016 (or was it 17 bo?) when they had a very subpar winter for their standards. It was still about a foot to foot and a half of snow on the ground, but in marquette city there were actually bare patches in the urban areas. Of course I was in heaven, but that foot might as well have been a balmy 60° to the locals who expect feet upon feet at that location in the heart of winter.

Actually i disagree. All of us winter lovers want respectable conditions for mid winter. In fact we had them just last week. There is absolutely NO denying this is not the courier and ives winter snowlovers want. And also, i am probably more like beavis than most on here. I dont care about how impressive the storm is (if i did, this winter is not that bad actually). I just want a winter landscape, and if it comes from sifter snow for days on end while the big ones are suppressed, so be it. But beavis typical gripes about climo and unrealistic demands of winter are very far off the grid. And this is in no way a knock on him, as i said, we are probably the best match on here.

Endless days of flurries, low stratus, and barely moving temperatures continue.

Actually, the Midwest, Great Lakes, and New England have have had a lot of snowy winters the past 20 years. Averages exist for a reason, and unfortunately balancing out does happen.

Gradient pattern really setting up on the GFS for a bit

Ive never seen a soapbox like yours lol. You have a right to your opinion but so does everybody else. You literally just said the climo in the entire lower 48 is terrible. I don't know why you don't just move to the North Pole lol. I have seen nobody sugar coating this Winter, if anything, any optimism it is immediately shot down with negativity. Yes, the Winter as a whole has sucked. Yes, we have had many winters like this before. And yes, most other sub forums have it worse than us. I spent lots of time outdoors whenever there has been snow this season, and I highly suggest others do the same. I said it last week and I will say it again, it absolutely kills me when I see someone, assumably sitting inside, complaining about how the long range looks bad when they have snow outside their window. Then when its melted, i do indoor activities lol.

It was a crap year for sure, though that period had a lot of stinkers. At Detroit. 1941-42 saw only 23.4" total (15th least snowy winter on record(, and only 20 days had 1"+ snowcover (by comparison, this winter so far is at 21.9" and 23 days thru Jan 30). The largest snowstorm in 1941-42 was 4.2" on Apr 9/10, and the peak obs time snow depth all season was 3". Looking at Columbus, after a 2.5" snowfall in early Jan 1942, the next largest snowfall that season was 0.3".

Id panic if i was in NYC and rejoice in Minneapolis. Here in Detroit, i feel a bit nervous but mostly confident that more snowstorms are in the offing.

I have to admit it looks better for us than you, but it looks better for you than jbs i95 fanclub. He always has an extreme east coast bias and I will admit, it's not looking as good for them, so I'm sure throwing in the towel refers to the East Coast. It is still strange to hear him admit that though lol.

Lol what does this mean?

Hopefully the epo pans out. I mean even if it doesnt, a storm can track nw and still bring heavy snow, i only have to look back to Jan 19 to see that. But if it pans out i love the look. No -nao would keep otherwise suppression in check.

I like the way the extended looks for storminess around the Lakes for Feb. Buckle up and lets see what happens.

Too far out to be living and dying 2with each model run. 6z was better. Who knows what 12z will be. Seems like a clipperless winter with a handful of good snowstorms. Hopefully this is one of the storms lol

To be fair, slight Southeast ridge may help keep continuously pumping winter systems into the Ohio Valley and lakes. Honestly not a bad look for us.

I wouldnt say no winter lol, its just been mild after a cold November. We are actually around avg snowfall to date in Detroit (21.9" so far), just cant sustain the snowpack. These mild winters are a boon for the Lake superior snowbelts of the UP, absolute mountains of snow. I would suggest a trip if you can, you will definitely get a fix.