michsnowfreak

It would be interesting if it comes in like a wall of snow like January 18th last year. of course that was a much bigger storm, but still

Back to Feb 6/7 potential. Still a lot of interesting possibilities, but since models suck I don't like getting into it too far out wrt details but its always nice to be in the middle of a range of solutions.

I cannot speak for his total but there's been plenty of small snowfalls this year so it may be misleading lol.

I don't see why it's a surprise that I am complaining? You seem to think that all I like is nickles/dimes. Yes, snowcover is what I like best but I still expect a respectable storm every Winter. Once our historic stretch ended in 2015 we still have had respectable storms every Winter except this one (so far). It's been apparent for some time that regardless of what happens this is not going to go down as a good Winter for really anyone. Even those seeing a great stretch in the western sub were snowless past Christmas. Just have to hope next good stretch is ours.

This has certainly trended more favorable from the initial brief torch and rain from days ago,.but i still never trust models lol. Hoping for a.wet snow thump then flash freeze.

I've been that way many times! in fact, more often than Gaylord. Love love love that area. 16-18" is a huge disappointment for them. March 08 was my first time up there and I fell in love, 4-5 feet depth. I kinda figured that since it's a down snow year for all of northern MI might as well go closer...but now you have me second guessing my choice. Stay tuned lol.

That would be nice. Over the years and outside the belts, more often than not SE MI has been a jackpot for snowfalls and snowcover wrt what else is going on in the sub (remember SE MI snowmagnet lol?) but looking outside right now we are the absolute screwzone. Again, not so much in terms of season totals because we had a better start than most, but the snowcover is thinnest in a narrow line from DTW to CLE right now. can't win em all but with two potentials ahead of vodka cold, if neither pans out you will see me really bitch.

While I doubt this is a big storm, potential for a wave to ride the front seems to be gaining steam. Could be a very cold snowfall.

January at Detroit finished with a mean temp of 29.2F, precip 1.03" and snow 6.4". Despite the fact that it was a warmer, drier, and less snowy January than average, none of those metrics made it into their respective top 20 lists, a statistical backing up of what I've already said: a boring unremarkable January I'll be happy to forget. Seasonal snowfall at the close of Jan is 19.5" which is 4.2" below avg but the most shocking stat of all...Winter precip of 2.39" is 2.02" below avg. For DJF to finish wetter than avg Feb will have to be extremely stormy. So ironic in that the one and only thing that every winter forecast after on was above avg DJF precip in this region.

With the magnitude of the arctic blast coming, fresh snowpack, stale snowpack, or no snowpack will likely be a moot point.

What's incredible with some of the arctic blasts weve seen lately, 2019, 2015, 2014… is the painful wind chills would look ungodly back in the days of the old wind chill formula.

I always say average wouldn't be average if it was always above average lol. Just not been Michigan's winter so far. I will be going up to the Gaylord area in a few weeks, they have probably between 7-12" otg which is far better than much of the rest of northern MI. I would say Detroit is probably realistically one of the only areas that could pull off an above avg snow season if the 2nd half produces, due to a decent start DTW is only 4.5" below avg to date. Many northern towns are so far below average that even a great run would leave them short in the end.

And that's the northern part. The southwestern part of the upper peninsula that borders Wisconsin has snow depths generally in the 1 to 3" range.

Went for a walk today and I have to say the ice on the Detroit River looked pretty cool. picked up 0.2" of snow today which puts me at 20.0" on the season.

It varies from place to place but some of the low spots of northern Michigan like mackinaw & Petoskey as well as the "banana belt" of the upper peninsula only have around an inch of snow on the ground. the deepest snows are just over a foot in the favored spots

The snowpack in most of northern Wisconsin, northern Michigan and northern Minnesota is terrible right now compared to what it should be.

Make that the past few decades lol. February has been where it's at.

This sentence says it all for me, this was exactly my gripe: "I get more peeved at the persistence pattern posts, that it's sucked so it will continue to do so". I like hoosiers stats because I'm the same way, I am always doing stats for Detroit. Even if you have a terrible start do not assume it continues in an area where it will snow through April. Winter may still be a shit winter but it's very hard to hit all time futility or all time snowiest in a region like ours that relies more on persistence rather than feast or famine. That's what makes things like the Winter of 2013-14 in Detroit or the Winter of 1978-79 in Chicago so extremely rare. None of us has seen the all time famine winters in our lifetime luckily.

One of the only interesting things about January here was the lack of temp movement. Max 45 Min 11 all month at Detroit. In 147 years of record, only 32 years saw a colder max for the month and only 9 years saw a warmer min for the month.

I like a new thread starter, it just seems like there's so many threads lol. We didn't let that short term discussion thread last long. Hopefully your mojo works Snowstorms. It's certainly possible to go a whole season without a 6"+ storm but it's become exceedingly rare. Only 2 of the past 20 winters did not feature at least one 6"+ storm here and only 1 of the past 20 if you include all of SE MI. So I'd imagine something gives between Feb and Apr. Bonus points if it's a big dog. 6 year anniversary today actually. And lol @ steve. When I said winters half over I didn't mean it in a literal sense. but checking, the snow season is statistically 55.5% over.

bad start for sure. no issue with posting about where that ranked. Especially me, I'm the fellow stat king. I mean Chicago was kinda due for a storm anyway. MY issue was the ones questioning all time season futility and acting like it was never going to snow there this season. bonus points for beavis 34 posts on Chicago's horrible climo yet he has more snow on the ground than most places well to his north.

Cleveland has had 29.0" and snow depth is 0. Definitely an interesting hobby

We essentially swapped Dec and Jan for the northern and southeast suburbs. The Dec events were better here.

I'm a near match to you at 19.8"...and I have 1-2" on the ground

It's very frustrating! Im annoyed that weve missed out on what the western part of the sub has had in January, mainly the past week. The ridiculous talk around Christmas about seasonal futility for Chicago, when literally 4 months of snow potential remained, kinda pisses me off because it was stupid talk then & salt in the wound now. Season total here is 19.8" but only 6.0" of it came in January (all nickels and dimes) and while the last week it has looked like Winter it has not been much. December was a far better month. There is certainly lots of potential in February so I won't say anything else now but if this keeps up in February I will be ranting more.