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This is standard Judith Cohen fare. Reason, I stopped following. It's rarely a forecast, but rather a breakdown of possibilities; "if this occurs it could get cold and snowy, however there is a possibility this could happen that might trigger this and in that case it would stay warm" all laced with technical met. jargon and so on. Always, with the PV dropping into the lower 48 down the line. He's JB LIte.

Newsflash. You are in defense of a poster who randomly posts map upon map that clogs our threads with useless information with just an intent to troll. If your not aware of that you have not been paying close attention. Further, he rarely posts relevant dialogue that one could argue contributes to expanding good conversation. I am far from the thread police, but this is fact if you've been here awhile. As for Chi storm, sure he can be a little rough around the edges, but his contributions and his knowledge far outweigh those positives. To me, it's refreshing to have somebody say " shove it up your bung hole" every now and than. It gives me hope we as a world our headed back in the right direction.

no one cares.

never works that way. Winter will hit January 15th and last until May 15th.

Asked for new power blower for Christmas. If Santa delivers I'll still be able to use it on the numerous leaves that have come back this week from the 55 mph winds we've had and the fact they held on trees until a few weeks ago. And perhaps I'll find my artificial outside tree which blew away last Saturday. Just to put a positive spin on the tranquil weather thus far. It'll all be forgotten when it snows at this years Masters Tournament.

Hardy Palm Guy soon to be a moderator.

It's time to start looking to place blame on this nightmare. I'll start with LOT bringing on a forecaster name: DOOM.

The fact Michiganders are having a back and forth over 1" wet snow event in mid December might say more about the futility were in versus the ORD record.

^ Trolls. Set my alarm for 3 am and I've got nothing, but wet pavement.

I'm all for the record at this point. But the trends in the longer term are a little disheartening. Was really hoping for a turn over the holidays.

Best story is to get the record and still get to 50 " for the season. With either(2 ) 1 foot events or a 20 incher.

When Larry Cosgrove starts getting mentioned in our threads we are nearing the breaking point for some folks.

^ A forecast of colder and snowier. Ballsy.

start the thread.

^ Now that were within 10 days I feel it necessary to update my original call for Christmas. Please note there have been some changes.

not excited. I hate wind. don't understand the fascination.

^ a relative bonanza. Really irks me when true weather watchers miss these type of events in their own back yard while trying to horn in on my futility records.

and there it is: "A REMINDER THAT THE 20TH (MONDAY) IS THE RECORD IN THE CITY OF CHICAGO FOR THE LATEST FIRST MEASURABLE SNOWFALL OF THE SEASON, SOMETHING WE HAVE YET TO SEE. " DOOM

If it's not going to be whipping the white stuff might as well torch. Actually, has felt nice the last couple of years washing the car and grilling out on Christmas Day.

you yesterday: "Look at it like this. In order for most of us here to experience the Winters of Yore, we may have had to participate in World War 2?? Having the winters get warmer and more frustrating may be a small price to pay, if you know what I mean." zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

While I'm old enough to remember Chicago's 1967 blizzard(age 5) and the great winters of the late '70's(high school) I would say the Ground Hog day blizzard and the winter of 2014 are on par or may top them. The wind and combined snow lightning and thunder of GHD storm are the most extreme winter event I observed. And those winters of the late '70's were not 150 days of bitter cold/snow. They came early but were pretty much gone by mid February.

probably just get a 15 inch snow event at some point and end the season under 30".

until I see I see in depth pattern change discussions from folks I put credence in or posting of such from respected non board sourcesI would have no faith in any event showing on any model. Sadly, the type of event we are experiencing today normally leads to a pattern change instead will be well into the 60's by mid week. Although, what I thought could be a sunny and 70 degree day looks off the table now.

"FINALLY, DEFORMATION FORCING ALONG THE BACKSIDE OF THE LOW AS WELL AS FALLING TEMPERATURES WILL SUPPORT A BAND OF SNOW ARCING BACK ACROSS FAR EASTERN IOWA AND NORTHERN ILLINOIS TOWARD DAYBREAK SATURDAY. SINCE THE LOW WILL BE PULLING AWAY, THE BAND OF SNOW SHOULD HENCE LIFT NORTHWARD AS WELL. HOWEVER, AT LEAST A 2-3 HOUR WINDOW OF STEADY SNOW APPEARS PROBABLE ALONG THE IL/WI STATE LINE SATURDAY MORNING WITH A FEW TENTHS OF AN INCH OF ACCUMULATION AND LOCALLY SLIPPERY ROADS A DISTINCT THREAT (SNOW RATES APPEAR TO BE AT OR BELOW 0.25"/HR). " desperation thy name is LOT.