WXNewton

Yes this is what I noticed last night on the trend it's becoming more and more phased and flatter each run of the GFS. I just trended the Canadian and it's is doing the same thing as the GFS, just a few runs behind it and playing catch-up.

Both GFS and Canadian seem to jump the low pressure from the Gulf to the Atlantic, the moisture seems to be getting strung out across the frontal boundary instead of being able to consolidate and lift. The moisture seems like it is following on a railroad track.

Yeah it was never good for my area either, but in reality it played out very similar to what it showed. They snow lover in me didn't want to believe it, but in reality I should have put way more stock into it.

If the storm is anywhere close to that in real time, we should be pretty happy board wide.

Looks like the Canadian. I am going to go back and look at last week's storm and see how the NAM played out from what it was showing 84 hrs out. Seems like it definitely nailed the warm nose and lack of precip.

Don't give up just yet, Euro ensembles huge tick NW.

Now we just wait on the NAM to tell us it's going to be all freezing rain and sleet except in the MTNs.

This is the trend we needed to start tonight!

Huge jump to the NW on EPS!!

The one thing on all the runs tonight that is starting to be more prominent is the finger of moisture that is trying to develop and angle more towards the north and west. Might be the best shot for us folks back west to see a little action.

The GFS has two waves of low pressure here, can someone with more knowledge than me explain how this might be effecting the overall moisture transport to the north and development of the storm vs a single low pressure?

Canadian backs totals up further NW than 12z. The biggest difference between the Canadian and the GFS is the Canadian seems to have more separation from the confluence in the Atlantic and digs the SW deeper and more neutral. It's seems like the GFS is being strung along with the energy in front of it and can't dig as much and basically is more flat and gets pulled along to the east. Also the GFS never fully separates from the energy in the southern Pacific which also keeps it from digging more. The GFS also has two waves of low pressure which almost looks like a Miller B ish type transfer into the Atlantic where as the Canadian seems to be more of a Miller A single low tracking across the gulf.

I mentioned this in the other discussion topic, there was a storm in mid-February in 2010 that reminds me so much of this and the jet orientation is very similar. I remember all the local news channels and national Weather service keeping it very far south of us, and then once it got into the NAM time frame it was the first to show moisture coming up into North Carolina. We went from a non advisory to a winter weather advisory the day of the storm for 1 to 2 and by the time it was over we had five to six inches. Which 2009 and 10 winter we couldn't miss a snowstorm. This is the lunch time Canadian and the storm from Feb 2010

We had a storm across NC in Feb of 2010 that was supposed to stay mostly south of the area and mainly a coastal storm, then the short range models all brought it north at the last min and most of the state had a decent snow, not sure how it compares to this one so far but it seems to have some similarities. This is the storm... https://products.climate.ncsu.edu/weather/winter/event/?e=506 Jet Stream Winds looks pretty similar to what is being modeled on the Canadian vs the Feb 12 2010 storm.

Running now

Light snow back into the NW piedmont and southern foothills this run...

One more tick a little further north again...

GFS trends more north with precip shield so far...

Just look at the trend on the GFS on this weekends storm over the past 42 hrs of model runs it's literally went from a non existent storm to moisture almost into Canada. Not saying this is what we will see next week, but at the time we have left I wouldn't rule out a significant run with moisture further north and west. I understand that the air is different and the cold press may keep the track further south, but I also recognize that these things can change significantly in just a two day period of time.

06z and 00z, couple more moves like that and everyone might be happy.

I would say the most positive trend on the GFS is how the shortwave is trending over the last few runs. Definitely sharper and going more neutral, if this continues I would think the angle and moisture transport over the Gulf should become more expansive over the next few runs.

Pretty big shift to NW with precip.

Dig baby dig...

Headed up to the MTN cabin today, it's been a very long time since I've seen the New River frozen over like this.

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