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Another thing to consider is folks can be using different color tables depending on what radar or program you are using and the source. I have a special "snow" color table that Ian sent me a while back - so where I see obvious returns may not show the same as other folks. Regardless - my original point to he/she stands - the precip does start pretty soon after returns pick up in intensity.

You are also farther from the radar. So the beam is showing you a slice that's higher up in the air versus folks closer to the radar.

Give it a few mins. It starts almost as soon as a couple shades of returns are overhead.

Snowing very lightly here in Colesville, MD. 24.3 air temp and 8.4 dewpt

Has done this as long as I can remember in winter events.

Given what this storm did from it's trek from the long range to the medium range - I'd rather have that for now.

Probably not even close to being large enough for long term impacts. We'll see if it keeps spewing SO2 but it takes a lot to do anything to climate.

This progression should remind everyone that the models out in the D7+ range are only rough guides of what *may* happen. This thing has become a completely different situation from a day or two ago. Hand wringing over longer range models should be limited to the general H5 pattern at most. Still time to get some adjustments for this one - but not looking great at the moment. It's the business. ETA: I know everyone always likes to say "we all know this" - but a lot of you all still seem to take long range modeling as if it's guaranteeing you snow. We've all gotta start to take the @Bob Chill - approach and just try to care less. It's a bummer when we miss but just take the wins and then the losses will be losses.

With satellite sampling the argument for the data sparse regions is not as substantial as some make it out to be. Obviously, we'd rather have RAOBs - but satellites do a really good job of sampling in the holes between sample sites. Would argue that GOES and POES do way more to improve forecasts than adding one or two RAOB sites.

Yeah it kind of goes E or a hair north of due east off the coast. Had it stuck around or tucked that would have been a fantasy storm.

Yeah - every run it's amazing to watch all the little vort pieces and such just screaming around the CONUS. Feels like a week where stuff is going to tease us on certain runs and be completely different on the next. Chaotic.

We should really be investing in cryogenic suspension. That way all the weenies can go to sleep and wake up when the storm is 48 hours away.

Washington/Jefferson Storm redux or bust. That's what I need to feel like we've won with this upcoming pattern.

@jaydreb - Based on the fact that it's hr354 - I'm assuming there's some other system after? Or is that a single storm total?

Less than 2ft for me? Meh...next.

I mean it looks like it shows some snow - H5 is pretty different from yesterday's run that looked like it was about to rock out.

I sort of thought it might be going neutral/negative too early - but I guess with that H5 setup to our north it works out. Trickling out on Pivotal still.

Maybe you're right - I'm semi new to Pivotal (I have the paid version). I know like 10 mins ago I looked at TT and it was still back at 180hrs.

Seems fine on Pivotal. Must be the way that WB and TT receive or load the data.

Potent piece of energy in Texas around 234.

Look at all the pieces of energy flying around the CONUS past 126hrs on the CMC run this morning. We aren't close to having anything resolved. But it looks different from yesterday's 12z.

You forgot the adjacent posts where one is "This is looking good!" and the next says "Meh...south"

As @WinterWxLuvr said - it's not only about power outages and trees. Imagine what even a glaze can do for drivers...or your walkway/driveway and your backside.

Well this page of the thread has become the walking advertisement for the therapy industry.

They are oiled already! (Since before the first storm). I'm not quite at your level of indifference for the longer range - but I'm finding it at least a bit easier these days to be patient until stuff is in the shorter ranges. If this potential is still there in 3 or 4 days, though it may start to turn into a sleepless week. Have to find something to distract me for now.