LibertyBell

I remember we had a severe weather outbreak with temps in the upper 60s and flooding with rapid snowmelt in the second half of January 1996. But the thaw was short maybe 2 weeks and then it was right back to very cold and snowy. February 1996 was the coldest month on record for many locations in the midwest.

northern lights too? did you see the amazing display we had down here in October?

and there will be even less people traveling when this congestion pricing thing takes effect

south based nao blocks suck

He's busy canceling winter after January 15th in the main forum.

so even up there, the coast in Iceland doesn't get much snow? did you see any northern lights? the display down here in October was absolutely historic!

Yep, I remember March 2011 as moderately snowy

You didn't do well in either the January 1996 blizzard or the big February 1996 snowstorm either, I take it? It was one of our few wall to wall extremely cold and snowy winters.

and 2 degrees at KFOK... the other location in our area that radiate well is KMJX, I wonder what their low was?

we actually did have a 6 inch snowstorm last winter though, just not at Central Park.

why does the snow cut off to the east-- the model doesn't go out that far?

and during the day !!!

I understand why counties in Florida and California are named Orange County-- they grow oranges there. But why do we have an Orange County in New York or an Orange in New Jersey for that matter? Do they grow oranges too??

It's too bad we don't have a 2024 reminiscing thread, but since the year is coming to an end we should reflect on the top events (not necessarily weather related) of 2024. Here are my top 3 1. The amazing northern lights display we saw down here in October, once in a lifetime !! 2. The earthquake back in April and the aftershock later that same day, wow!! 3. October pitched a perfect game with 0 rainfall here and was the perfect backdrop to that wonderful northern lights display in the same month !! Added onto this the longest rainless streak of my lifetime, 42 days or 6 full weeks !!

It seems like we should be placing emphasis on the most recent decade then vs 20-30 years ago then. Wild, I love how you incorporated solar max lag into your forecasts for 2025-26 and 2026-27. When we saw that unprecedented northern lights display even down here in October, the first thing I wondered about was..... "hmmm, I wonder how this very rare event will impact Ray's winter outlook!" One great thing about having 0 rain in October was it being such a great month for astronomy and having such a historic northern lights display was absolutely amazing.

1989 - An historic arctic outbreak spread to the Gulf Coast Region, and a total of 122 cities across the central and eastern U.S. reported record low temperatures for the date. Forty-one of those cities reported record lows for the month of December, with some cities breaking December records established the previous morning. Morning lows of 11 degrees at New Orleans LA and Lake Charles LA, 4 degrees below zero at San Angelo TX, and 26 degrees below zero at Topeka KS, established all-time records for those four locations. Yankton SD was the cold spot in the nation with a morning low of 31 degrees below zero. A storm system moving across the Florida peninsula and along the Southern Atlantic Coast produced high winds and record snows along the Carolina coast. Snowfall totals of 15 inches at Wilmington NC and 13.3 inches at Cape Hatteras NC were all-time records for those two locations. a notoriously cold and dry December 2009 - Severe storms and heavy rainfall were associated with the same storm that brought blizzard conditions to the central parts of the U.S. on December 23rd and 24th. At least one death in Louisiana was blamed on the heavy rainfall and storms. There were 35 preliminary tornado reports and 34 hail and wind reports along the Gulf Coast over the 2-day period. The 10-year average number of tornadoes across the country in December is 36. (NCDC) the start of an amazing winter with the first snowstorm in December

whats the low so far for NYC Tony?

it's just people in general, trust me if you did a poll 99.9999999999999999999% of people would say Orange County is in California.

2 at KFOK looks like they won't get to 0 or below

it's difficult to objectively state what's *warmer* vs *colder* when the so-called averages change every 10 years. I think we should just go by the entire climatological record rather than just 30 year slices of it-- there's no scientific reason to choose 30 as the number of years to use to calculate the average.

If it came back like 2018 did in March that would be amazing, but I don't think you see that happening either?

I think it's useful to mention that we haven't had a single noreaster in at least a year (rain or snow), so it's going to be a real shock to many people if/when it does happen.

Their summer temperature issues are a problem too. They should keep all temperature and snowfall measurements at LGA as the standard. Our airports have at least a 60 year climate record history, it's plenty long enough. Plus all airport climate records should be used as the standard for consistency. It's what they do in other cities.

That bottom inch is the hardest to melt especially with it becoming more dense with time. Sunlight doesn't really melt it, higher humidity would though. Cold and sunny will keep snow around even if the temp is a little above freezing.

it might be warmer here, but it definitely isn't rainy-- more like warmer and drier here than most other parts of the sub. we do radiate better than northern Queens does though.