LibertyBell

wow what a historic period, Don! so if you include the period from 1994-95 to 2001-02 it was 4 out of 8 winters. Having 1993-94 just before that period and the all time historic 1995-96 during that period, eased the pain a bit....

I found pictures from that season too, the snow happened with so much wind that the sides of my house were encased in snow! This was from the storm at the end of February, it's the latest storm to dump 20 inches of snow at NYC since March 1888! The anniversary is actually coming up-- it was on the 26th! From February 2010 to January 2011, there were three 20" snowstorms!

I was looking at pictures from the 2010-11 winter and wow did we have an amazing amount of snowcover that season..... looking at pictures from Boxing Day and also in February when the snowcover was at maximum extent there were several feet of snow in my backward which made everything seem level..... My two greatest memories of snowfall from that decade are that winter and January 2016

I was looking at pictures from the 2010-11 winter and wow did we have an amazing amount of snowcover that season..... looking at pictures from Boxing Day and also in February when the snowcover was at maximum extent there were several feet of snow in my backward which made everything seem level.....

Although JFK did not get back to back single digit winters, they already had this in the late 90s, right, Don? Was it 1997-98 and 1998-99 Don-- and again in 2001-02 to make it 3 years out of 5?

Yeah but barely... LGA is probably closest to where NYC should be, so neutralizing the undermeasurement would likely get NYC only to 10.2-10.8 inches

I take it you weren't in the area for January 2016?

I found these two parts interesting Over the last twenty years of the full forcing simulation, the weakening AMOC in the North Atlantic (Supplementary Fig. 4) may be linked to positive redistribution feedbacks that have been previously described in a coupled climate model40. In this feedback, a weakened AMOC decreases meridional heat transport in the North Atlantic, leading to a divergence of heat, cooler SSTs and increased heat uptake in the subpolar gyre, which in turn further weakens the AMOC40,41. It is unclear if this feedback mechanism is contributing to the North Atlantic changes in the full forcing simulation, as heat uptake north of the Equator decreases (–0.6 × 1021 J year−1) and heat transport increases (+0.6 × 1021 J year−1) over the last twenty years of the run, compared to the full period. .... In summary, our experiments emphasise that recent trends in Southern Ocean surface winds, surface air temperature and radiation have driven almost all of the globally integrated ocean warming of the past half century. Increased observational coverage over the Southern Ocean is therefore key to reconcile global surface heat fluxes, ocean heat uptake and heat content changes, as well as building increased confidence in climate models and climate change projections for the coming decades.

Yes, especially with how deep the heat extends. If you're talking about upwelling from increased TC activity, that only causes temporary changes to the temperature profile of the oceans; with how deep the heat is, in a couple of weeks the surface of the ocean is back to boiling.

wow did that hit Savannah directly?

unfortunately we have been talking about ocean acidification and a mass extinction event (which we have already started), it's happened in the past, where up to 90% of life on the planet goes extinct as nature is trying to balance things out. ocean hypoxia is quite frightening, can you imagine all that life dying wow reaching temperature thresholds like 1.5 C and 2.0 C are the wrong things to talk about, the real danger is a runaway chemical process after reaching a tipping point or threshold and that runaway chemical process is what will cascade into something we can never come back from. the problem is not simply of temperatures, but of a runaway cascading chemical process from which there is no return

1893 exciting season a hurricane hit NYC directly!

right so April and May are very warm? that would follow the pattern of the last 2 springs, and dry too

something we haven't had in many years....since 2014-15....

especially in such a warm winter-- what caused such a late season outbreak, Chris? The other one which comes to mind for me happened in 1994-95 another very warm winter, when we had an arctic outbreak in April with sunny skies very windy and temps in the mid 30s during the day and low 20s at night!

wow some excellent articles on here about exoplanets with water, in case we need to get off of here and find another planet to live on https://www.aanda.org/articles/aa/full_html/2023/11/aa47539-23/aa47539-23.html Abstract Understanding the set of conditions that allow rocky planets to have liquid water on their surface, in the form of lakes, seas, or oceans, is a major scientific step in determining the fraction of planets potentially suitable for the emergence and development of life as we know it on Earth. This effort is also necessary to define and refine what is known as the habitable zone (HZ) in order to guide the search for exoplanets likely to harbor remotely detectable life forms. To date, most numerical climate studies on this topic have focused on the conditions necessary to maintain oceans, but not to form them in the first place. https://www.aanda.org/articles/aa/abs/2022/02/aa42286-21/aa42286-21.html Abstract As the insolation of an Earth-like (exo)planet with a large amount of water increases, its surface and atmospheric temperatures also increase, eventually leading to a catastrophic runaway greenhouse transition. While some studies have shown that the onset of the runaway greenhouse may be delayed due to an overshoot of the outgoing longwave radiation (OLR) – compared to the Simpson-Nakajima threshold – by radiatively inactive gases, there is still no consensus on whether this is occurring and why. https://www.aanda.org/articles/aa/abs/2019/08/aa35585-19/aa35585-19.html Abstract Planets similar to Earth but slightly more irradiated are expected to enter into a runaway greenhouse state, where all surface water rapidly evaporates, forming an optically thick H2O-dominated atmosphere. For Earth, this extreme climate transition is thought to occur for an increase of only ~6% in solar luminosity, though the exact limit at which the transition would occur is still a highly debated topic. In general, the runaway greenhouse is believed to be a fundamental process in the evolution of Earth-sized, temperate planets

what would be necessary for this to happen?

wow from a different era.... I'm shocked it's not 2005 with all those cat 5 storms and wilma, the strongest storm in recorded history in the atlantic.

I posted this in the la nina thread unfortunately we have been talking about ocean acidification and a mass extinction event (which we have already started), it's happened in the past, where up to 90% of life on the planet goes extinct as nature is trying to balance things out. ocean hypoxia is quite frightening, can you imagine all that life dying wow reaching temperature thresholds like 1.5 C and 2.0 C are the wrong things to talk about, the real danger is a runaway chemical process after reaching a tipping point or threshold and that runaway chemical process is what will cascade into something we can never come back from. the problem is not simply of temperatures, but of a runaway cascading chemical process from which there is no return

what's the highest we've ever had? 2020 or 2005?

I'm surprised 2020 isn't in this list

unfortunately we have been talking about ocean acidification and a mass extinction event (which we have already started), it's happened in the past, where up to 90% of life on the planet goes extinct as nature is trying to balance things out. ocean hypoxia is quite frightening, can you imagine all that life dying wow reaching temperature thresholds like 1.5 C and 2.0 C are the wrong things to talk about, the real danger is a runaway chemical process after reaching a tipping point or threshold and that runaway chemical process is what will cascade into something we can never come back from. the problem is not simply of temperatures, but of a runaway cascading chemical process from which there is no return

Yes I read that sea level is rising fastest along the east coast and the gulf coast, it's not a uniform rise everywhere

hopefully dry and warm like the last two springs. March can be wet but once April is here dry and warm is preferred.

wow, so we had cold leading into the snow event then?