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Tony how come we didn't see snow from this system? 1990 - Snow spread across the northeastern U.S. Massachusetts was blanketed with 8 to 15 inches of snow, 5 to 10 inches was reported in Rhode Island, and totals in Connecticut ranged up to 10.5 inches at New Canaan. In central New York State, snow and high winds resulted in a number of chain-reaction multiple accidents, and a total of 108 persons were injured. Snow and high winds created white-out conditions along Interstate 87 in Saratoga County NY. Subzero cold was reported from Minnesota through Michigan to northern New England. Duluth MN reported a record low of 26 degrees below zero. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

Since we're talking about birds, I figured I'd post this.... the high intelligence of crows and ravens has always impressed me, they plan for the future and understand what their reflection is, as well understanding the concept of zero.

We're in for some bad times if what happened last June repeats itself.

That absolutely sucks. I read that he was getting quieter with time, so maybe he was sick already. At the same time, light pollution kills over 200,000 birds a year in Manhattan alone, so we should find a way to use more "smart lighting" which doesn't waste electricity and cause health and environmental issues. I see complaints are up from building residents who complain they can't sleep because of all the wasteful light.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/23/nyregion/flaco-owl-central-park-zoo-dead.html He was able to avoid vehicles by sticking largely to rooftops, water towers and other elevated elements of the built environment after leaving Central Park last fall. But the risk that he would be killed in a building strike was great: As many as 230,000 birds a year die in New York City when they hit windows, according to the National Audubon Society. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/24/flaco-new-york-citys-beloved-owl-dies-after-striking-building News of the owl’s death caused an intense reaction on social media. More than 1,000 users reposted the zoo’s announcement of Flaco’s death on X, formerly known as Twitter. “This is an immense loss,” read one comment that summarised the sentiments of many on the platform. “I’m so grateful for everyone who came together to witness Flaco’s incredible journey.” Another X user suggested tearing down the building where Flaco crashed. The Eurasian eagle-owl is one of the larger species. Flaco’s wingspan was reported to be about 6ft (1.8m). Federal officials estimate that up to one billion birds in the US die annually after accidentally flying into buildings’ windows. In October 2020, ornithologist Stephen Ambrose wrote on LinkedIn that there was evidence light glare from city buildings’ windows could blind owls momentarily and increase their risk of crashing into the structures, especially at night.

I think at some point people will start removing these trees that cause the fires, I've already seen talk of it on various forums "the only way to prevent the fires is to remove the fuel which causes them"

Flacco the Owl is dead stupid humans....

I dont think it works that way. I notice the companies adjust their costs so if the winter is warmer they charge more per unit to make up the difference.

Let's see if we can get February to finish with an average temp of 40.0... Looks like the last day of the month and the first day of March could be cold though?

I wonder if it all did or there was another eruption like that somewhere it would be enough to create a cascading reaction and trigger another ice age? Wasn't there an era when volcanic eruptions were much more common? Something must have triggered them....

Now all that's left is to determine when we'll have our last freeze.

I find this absolutely fascinating. Have you heard about the deadly lake in Cameroon that killed over 1500 people in just a few minutes when it exhaled CO2? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Nyos_disaster On 21 August 1986, a limnic eruption at Lake Nyos in northwestern Cameroon killed 1,746 people and 3,500 livestock.[1] The eruption triggered the sudden release of about 100,000–300,000 tons (1.6 million tons, according to some sources[who?]) of carbon dioxide (CO2).[2][3] The gas cloud initially rose at nearly 100 kilometres per hour (62 mph; 28 m/s) and then, being heavier than air, descended onto nearby villages, suffocating people and livestock within 25 kilometres (16 mi) of the lake.[4][5] A degassing system has since been installed at the lake, with the aim of reducing the concentration of CO2 in the waters and therefore the risk of further eruptions. Along with the Lake Monoun disaster two years earlier, it is one of only two recorded limnic eruptions in history.[6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Monoun#Disaster Lake Monoun is a crater lake (maar) in West Province, Cameroon, that lies in the Oku Volcanic Field. On August 15, 1984, a limnic eruption occurred at the lake, which resulted in the release of a large amount of carbon dioxide (CO2) that killed 37 people. At first, the deaths remained unexplained, and causes such as terrorism were suspected. Further investigation and a similar event two years later at Lake Nyos led to the currently accepted explanation.[1] Disaster Lake Monoun located in the West Region of Cameroon Several people reported hearing a loud noise on August 15, 1984, around 22:30. A gas cloud reportedly emanated from a crater in the eastern part of the lake. The resulting deaths of residents in a low-lying area are believed to have occurred between 03:00 and dawn. The victims were said to have skin burns, which reports later clarified as "skin damage" such as discoloration. Survivors reported that the whitish, smoke-like cloud smelled bitter and acidic. Vegetation was flattened around the eastern part of the lake, probably by a large wave of up to 5 m (16 ft) height.[1]: 7  Although Lake Monoun is near the center of a volcanic field that includes at least 34 recent craters, the subsequent investigation found that the event was not caused by an eruption or sudden ejection of volcanic gas from the lake. Rather, emission of carbon dioxide in a limnic eruption is thought to be to blame. The cloud's smell and skin damage to victims were not fully explained. Some theories attribute the skin problems to a combination of preexisting conditions and routine postmortem effects like livor mortis, another medical interpretation says the body's metabolic rate was reduced inducing a severely restricted circulation in capillary vessels of the skin, resulting in necrosis,[1]: 6  although there is no clear consensus. Among the victims were some of the riders in a truck carrying twelve people. The truck's engine stopped working as it became starved of oxygen, and the people inside the truck got out and were killed. Two people sitting on top of the truck survived, because their elevated position allowed them to breathe – carbon dioxide is heavier than air (oxygen and nitrogen) which causes it to stay close to the ground. Two years later, on 21 August 1986, a similar and even more deadly event occurred at Lake Nyos, about 100 km (62 mi) north-northwest, killing 1,746 people and more than 3,000 livestock.[2] Along with Lake Nyos and Lake Kivu, Lake Monoun is one of three lakes in the world known to have high concentrations of gas dissolved deep below the surface and which have the right conditions for a limnic eruption. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Kivu Lake Kivu is one of the African Great Lakes.[2] It lies on the border between the Democratic Republic of the Congo and Rwanda, and is in the Albertine Rift, the western branch of the East African Rift. Lake Kivu empties into the Ruzizi River, which flows southwards into Lake Tanganyika.[3] In 1894, German explorer and officer Gustav Adolf von Götzen was the first European to discover the lake. Kivu lake shoreline at Gisenyi, Rwanda In the past, Lake Kivu drained toward the north, contributing to the White Nile. About 13,000 to 9,000 years ago, volcanic activity blocked Lake Kivu's outlet to the watershed of the Nile.[4] The volcanism produced mountains, including the Virungas, which rose between Lake Kivu and Lake Edward, to the north.[5] Water from Lake Kivu was then forced south down the Ruzizi. This, in turn, raised the level of Lake Tanganyika, which overflowed down the Lukuga River.[4] Lake Kivu is one of three lakes in the world, along with Lake Nyos and Lake Monoun, that undergo limnic eruptions (where overturn of deepwater stratified layers releases dissolved carbon dioxide (CO2). The lake's bottom also contains methane (CH4), meaning if a limnic eruption occurs, the lives of the two million people living nearby would be in danger.

Laki was also the only time I've heard of fluorine gas being released into the air.... fluorine is extremely deadly!

wow this is a very bad day in snowfall history for NY-- in 1969 we missed a 100 hr snowstorm that went just north of us and in 1989 we missed a 20 inch snowstorm that went just south of us (and this was a busted forecast, we were supposed to get 6-8 inches and only got virga.) looks like a day of extremes too, from mid 70s in 1985 (when it was -2 back in January) and in 2017 to single digits in 2015!

If that eruption was in 2014, could it have caused the extremely cold winter of 2014-15? That February was colder than anything I could have imagined in our current era....

what I'm wondering about is if what's happened since 2015-16 is a long term change, where we're seeing more DJF averages of 40 degrees or warmer than we did before. Going forward, is a DJF of 40 degrees or warmer the new normal? Because if it is, we're going to see a lot more of these winters than the good ones.

JFK radiates much better at night-- there's your concrete influence at the other places. JFK is located near a marsh and sandy soil, which are perfect for radiational cooling.

JFK radiates MUCH better than Central Park. Sometimes we're up to 10 degrees colder and below freezing while both NYC and LGA are above.

it's good for Nassau County outside of the northern parts, because most of Nassau County is very urban.

the last thing they should be doing is building more skyscrapers. NYC has become the city for the rich and for the rich only.

April 1982-- did you experience that one? That's my first clear snowstorm memory.

Thats what I hope for too-- what about something like Laki in Iceland again, do you think it's possible? Is Laki due for another eruption?

Yep, February was quite snowy in 2016. The time around the superbowl especially.