LibertyBell
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That late February SWFE in 2008 was a bust in the positive direction, that was supposed to be a snow to rain event and it didn't change over until the very end when we had some drizzle to top off the 6-8 inches of snow we got. I remember getting up at 3 am to see that and it was snowing so hard, I said to myself "This isn't changing over anytime soon." And it didn't, it snowed hard well into the morning and ended before noon as some drizzle. The one significant snowfall that winter.
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I actually saved a screenshot from the radar from that storm because I saw the oddest thing (I don't know how many people remember this), but it was raining all around us and there was a small white bubble of snowfall over this area-- it didn't amount to much at all-- I think an inch or two at best-- but people driving in from other areas were wondering how the roads were a little white here while it was just raining everywhere else. The white bubble went away after a few hours-- I remember a met saying it had something to do with heavier rates that changed it to snow here for a couple hours before it went right back to rain, so it was like a spring storm. But it was still amusing to have it snowing here while it was raining at Morristown, NJ and all points north and west lol. It was insignificant but it's something I still remember.
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I hope so too, hey we got a 6" snowstorm in late February in 2008, so it's definitely possible even in a mostly mild winter-- that was another brutal winter and that was the only snowfall of note that winter (that was also the winter when we had that horrible "Heavy Snow Warning" non event in January.) There's also 1994-95, another very mild winter in an el nino that gave us a significant snowstorm in February. I won't bring up 1982-83 or 2015-16 since those two analogs have been done to death lol. I also think next winter could be much better because la ninas that come after el ninos usually are.
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We discussed the origin and fate of the universe, mass extinctions, organic farming and climate change lol. "Only in New York (subforum)" would you get such a diversity of discussion lol -- especially when the sun hasn't been out in about a week and there hasn't been any significant snow in over 2 years.
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I'd love to know if anyone asked this before the Blizzard of 1996.... unfortunately these forums did not exist back then
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Don, what happened to the 1895-1896 winter in this list? Didn't we have less than 3" through the end of January and ended up with 46" that season-- mostly on the strength of the snowiest March on record with over 30" of snow in that month alone?
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Well, hopefully technological advances will fix that issue. I'm not a fan of lithium batteries either, we have issues with intense fires here in New York with unregulated lithium batteries used in e-bikes. We're in the process of developing solid state batteries and green hydrogen which will hopefully replace lithium. Car manufacturers actually have a roadmap to start using solid state batteries in their vehicles by 2026. By the way lithium isn't just a problem for evs, it's also a major issue for laptop computers, cellphones and other electronic devices.
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Science sorts things out as usual, independent of whatever people "think"
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Extended summer stormlover74 future snow hole banter thread 23
LibertyBell replied to BxEngine's topic in New York City Metro
Maybe because they listen to dopes like JB? By the way we have some supposed red taggers on here who hold these same views and whine like babies for moderators. It's quite amusing. -
Extended summer stormlover74 future snow hole banter thread 23
LibertyBell replied to BxEngine's topic in New York City Metro
Indeed, I blame world governments for a lot of it and the UN for allowing fossil fuel lobbyists to participate in the discussions. They need to be made to realize they are part of the past and will have NO role in the future of the planet. And while we're at it, we need to ban corporate lobbying and dark money altogether. -
While what you're saying does happen and has continued to happen it's not a problem of science but of human greed. We see this in how the sugar industry sought to suppress research showing that increased sugar consumption leads to diabetes-- and they continue to do so with HFCS. There's the pesticide issue I've already mentioned with Sygenta and Bayer and Dow with them strongarming the EPA; our regulatory agencies are captured. And DuPont with PFOA/PFAS doing the same thing. And then there's the infamous case of Merck and Vioxx, of them attempting to cover up the thousands of deaths caused by this dreadful drug and blacklisting doctors who wouldn't prescribe it. So, yes money does corrupt humans, but it doesn't corrupt science, which exists independently of any and all humans. But by the same token, you're making the case in the wrong direction, the fact is, it's the fossil fuel companies who have been covering up climate change research for decades. The scientists you're talking about who were taking money to cover up the truth were scientists who worked for the fossil fuel companies. Most of the time it's the corporation paid scientists whose results must be questioned, not the independent ones who do not get paid for their analyses.
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Yes, in my experience, it's always the best policy to work with nature rather than to attempt to work "against" it. After all, we're a part of nature and whatever we do it to it, we also do to ourselves.
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I think it will be a combination of AI and quantum computing. There is a poetic symmetry with having quantum computers handle these problems, because the universe is in a very real sense a cosmic quantum computer. Therefore what better to understand such a system than a microcosmic version of the same thing?
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Big Bang and Relativity will likely require modification when Quantum Gravity is worked out (Big Bang will likely be modified into Big Bounce for example and Quantum Gravity will also do away with singularities, which is a sign that a theory has reached its limit figuratively and literally lol), but modification maintains most of the original theory and adds necessary extensions to it.
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Thanks Larry, I have a few questions regarding this combined influence. Is it possible that the combined additive effect of the SSW and the pattern change will create a pattern change that will last longer than it otherwise would if only one of the two occurred? Is it possible they will have a concurrent additive effect in that create a more extreme pattern change than would otherwise have occurred if only one of the two occurred? Obviously up here we don't want a March 2014 kind of scenario when the PV is in the northeast and suppresses the storms to our south.
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Thanks, technology gives us solutions to problems that seem to have none. I also love the development of laser tech to precisely target and fry these pests.
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Yes, I am thinking of the lag effect, the same kind we see between land and sea temperatures or between the shortest day of the year and the coldest temperatures, it takes awhile for the new pattern to set in. Do you see some kind of SSW aiding in the pattern change?
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Completely agreed and I would also add the mass death of pollinators (which we really need more than most people realize.)
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I blame these on the filthiness of humans (same with rats.) On Long Island, there are zero cockroaches, I have not seen a single cockroach in all the time I've been here. In Brooklyn they were all too common. Population density issues combined with humans dumping trash everywhere. I love the alternatives of laser pest killing either with drones automatically or by hand with tools that use concentrated beams of light to kill pests. I should say when I say pests I mean weeds. The UN (specifically a panel of scientists who researched this and wrote their conclusion for the UN) specifically has stated that we don't need chemical pesticides or chemical fertilizers, both of which destroy the soil in the long term and kill off essential pollinators (organic soil farming which retains nutrients better is much more sustainable and much better for the soil than applying chemicals to it to artificially maintain it.) And then when we have excessive rains, these chemicals run off either into water supply or into bodies of water where they result in toxic algae blooms and massive die offs of sea life too.
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Better than most March events
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Thanks I was figuring 7-10 days at the beginning of the month for that reason.
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My favorite was actually the one that happened in early April, did you get anything from that?
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These are the same people who don't think there is anything wrong with pesticides, meanwhile they are circulating through our blood and killing off pollinators. And now we've found the carcinogen 1,4-dioxane in our drinking water.
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Mass extinction of other forms of life is most certainly happening and at a very rapid rate. We've already wiped out thousands of species.
