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2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
We have had had nice snowfalls before though with temps just above freezing. April 2, 2018 is a good example that we were talking about before, NYC had close to 6" of snow and the temperature never got below 33 F. -
Extended summer stormlover74 future snow hole banter thread 23
LibertyBell replied to BxEngine's topic in New York City Metro
Nooo, it's that they wouldn't be multiple posts if they happened during the day (or at any normal time) because there would be a lot of other people posting in between. -
2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
What this shows is that the risk of suppression is actually more than the chances that the storm will be mostly rain. This storm could still move a little more north (like 50 miles) and still hit us hard with snow. -
2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
Certainly by the ensembles too, it looks like the entire area could get a nice snowstorm out of this with not much rain at all. -
2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
I can't remember the last time the entire area, north to south, west to east, saw a foot of snow lol. -
2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
If anything the euro is trending to the gfs -
2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
Interesting comparison here-- the GFS has one foot plus of snow south of NYC and on eastern Long Island and the Euro has one foot plus of snow north of NYC (but not by much.) They both have around the same amount of snow for NYC but the GFS has more for Long Island especially the south shore and east end. As a matter of fact, the GFS has a foot plus for eastern Long Island, even more than it does for south NJ. Euro has zilch for south NJ lol. They also have similar amounts of snow west of NYC into the Poconos but the GFS has much less snow north of NYC. -
2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
this is wild, look at that gradient between the north shore and south shore of Long Island lol. edit-- it looks like the largest gradient is south of Long Island as even the south shore gets at least 4 inches on this model run. Poconos to NW NJ will do well of course. That 10-12 inches in coastal CT is a little unexpected though, it's even more than what it shows for NW areas. There is such a fine line of 10 miles or so between heavy snow and rain that there's no way to know which way this will go. -
2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
I guess we'll know about the Euro soon -
2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
That's interesting you mentioned Bear Creek, there must be at least 3 Bear Creeks in eastern PA, there's one up in Carbon County too, near Jim Thorpe, as well as another one further NE from there. The one in Carbon County is close to Camelback ski resort and up around 2200 ft. How high up is the one in Macungie? -
2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
South Mountain Range.... is this anywhere near Lehighton? -
2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
The outcome with this storm will likely control the outcome of that one. Here's something I've always wondered about and it applies here. The GFS was the first to pick up the Boxing Day Blizzard in December 2010 too. If it had been wrong with that one, would the snowy pattern that followed have happened? -
2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
Long Island lol-- I take it the model only sees ocean there? -
Occasional Thoughts on Climate Change
LibertyBell replied to donsutherland1's topic in Climate Change
Not sure how much the impact is, but we're at solar maximum right now and will be right through October. That's why we're so excited about the upcoming total solar eclipse in April with large pink prominences visible off the solar limb. -
Extended summer stormlover74 future snow hole banter thread 23
LibertyBell replied to BxEngine's topic in New York City Metro
It was fun, but we called a truce lol -
2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
Interesting but what is the Fall Line? -
2/13 Significant/Major Winter Storm Discussion & Observations
LibertyBell replied to Northof78's topic in New York City Metro
If it somehow does happen, no one will be criticizing this model for the rest of the season. -
In spite of the bad rep of the late 80s and early 90s there were some real jewels in there-- January 1987 and January 1988 were both very notable snowstorms and we had 3 moderate sized snowstorms of 5" or greater in the 1990-91 winter including a 36 hour snowstorm in February. No true double digit snowstorms, but 5-9" snowstorms are something we would really enjoy right now.
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2013 - A nor'easter produced heavy snowfall over the New England states. In Boston, Massachusetts, total snowfall reached 24.9 inches, the fifth-highest total ever recorded in the city. New York City officially recorded 11.4 inches of snow at Central Park, and Portland, Maine, set a record of 31.9 inches. Hamden, Connecticut, recorded the highest snowfall of the storm at 40 inches. Was this the anniversary of the storm that dumped 30-40 inches over Long Island and shut down the LIE? Looks like this is also the anniversary of the start of the famous historic arctic shot in February 1934!
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If we even get an inch of snow, it will be a win for the GFS.
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Chris, weren't some of these other winters pretty warm too-- we didn't see much snow in 1998-99 or 1987-88 either (although we did have the one snowstorm in January 1988 that was pretty good.) 1970-71 and 1965-66 didn't give us much snow either, but they were definitely colder.
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Meanwhile Lee Goldberg says he is issuing a snowfall map at 6 PM.....I doubt it shows any accumulation for us, but he did say it would go from rain to mix to snow at the end for us.
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That's a really weird winter, are we sure there weren't any snowfall measuring problems at Central Park? What was JFK's snowfall total that winter? How is possible for barely 25 miles south of us to get 50" of snow and NYC only gets 25"-- they didn't even reach their seasonal average (although it was snowier than many other winters in that decade.) The following winter was also snowier south of us wasn't it-- in 1987-88 there was the big Veteran's Day snowstorm that hit DC to Philly, somehow skipped over us and then hit Boston. We got 1-2 inches (I remember this storm!) but both north and south of us saw much more (sort of like April Fools Day 1997).
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For a second I thought you were talking about NY lol