LibertyBell

I'm just thinking back to the 80s and 90s when we had no access to models (pre internet) and we had a forecast of 1-3 inches one day and woke up the next morning with a forecast of 6-8 or more lol. It rarely happened but when it did we treasured it and remembered it forever. Such a storm happened in February 1991 when we were predicted to get less than an inch of snow at the tail end of a frontal passage and the next thing we knew the low stalled SE of the Hamptons and it kept snowing for 36 straight hours in temps of 33-34 degrees, we ended up with almost 10 inches of snow-- most of which accumulated at night.

see I told you stacked lows are better

I can't stand this guy, he is the literal epitome of Hicksville, USA (and I don't mean the town on Long Island.)

"But it will ALWAYS continue to flow" does not seem very scientific.... how can anyone ever say that it will "ALWAYS" flow?

what happened to all that snow these models were showing in the Poconos? everything has shifted east and south

Depends on what part of Long Island too-- people are saying north vs south but in reality it might be west vs east or somewhere in between

isn't that the same as going to the bathroom?

I actually don't remember much snow in March 2003. On the other hand, April 2003 was much more memorable.

Forget March 2003, April 2003 was even better! And of course April 2018 too. We got 6-8 inches of snow in April 2003 and about 6 inches of snow in April 2018.

Told ya... they should have done it. It's part of the game and the point of the game is winning, not being nice. WINNING. Lawrence Taylor understood that.

Cant stand him and the other team needs to target him and tell them to take him out. There are a lot worse things going on in the world, I'm not going to cry over an injured multimillionaire if it happens.

It's so great to see a multimillionaire dollar QB go down, I want him to keep getting pounded into the ground repeatedly.

lol whats with all the "bros" and dont you love this game, I love defense Mahomes might be great but 90% of the reason they are here is because of their defense. I hate how rules have changed to protect the QB, the defense should be allowed to do whatever they want to the QB and WR, this is football after all. My favorite player was LT and Mahomes wouldn't have won a single superbowl if LT was around and the old rules were in play.

This seems like the kind of thing where you will have to be at the top of the Empire State Building to see a "snow storm" lol

plus it's 3 dimensional and not just a single layer you have to keep track of, that makes it even more complex...

in the example I outlined above I told her, listen, if you know there's going to be an east wind coming off the ocean, don't expect these partly sunny forecasts to verify. That's where intuition comes in, when you know your local area well enough to know what an east wind can do, especially this time of year.

a lot of people use these 5 day and 7 day forecast apps to plan their week. My sister, for example, wanted to work outside to do some early season yard clean up and her yard has been wet because of the excessive rainfall. So that particular week the forecast was for clear skies after Monday. Well, when the forecast period started the forecast changed from sunny every day to cloudy every day. So her plans had to change. Thats the kind of thing I'm talking about-- not necessarily snowfall amounts, but sometimes even just sky conditions. It makes you wonder who makes those "app forecasts"

Of course you're right, especially when there are large changes over such a small area, but it's the general impression people get is that there's a lot of waffling back and forth. This is the kind of commentary I get from family and friends.... on a particular day it was supposed to be sunny and now it's going to be cloudy and rainy, I can't trust any forecast anymore. This was in reference to that horribly cloudy period we had a couple weeks ago when it was cloudy for a week straight. They plan their week around 5 or 7 day forecasts so when they went from sunny every day to cloudy every day they used it as an example of inaccurate forecasting. A few days before the forecast was for 3 straight days of sunshine and then it went to 3 straight days of clouds when the week started.

It's good for entertainment and then going on their social media and making fun of them for not knowing what they're talking about. It's even more funny when it gets to them and they respond on the air lol. I've had my tweets posted on TV a few times.

I follow EVERYTHING The thing is, NO ONE seems to be right about anything anymore. Sometimes/most of the time it seems like the best tool is our intuition (this is what I really use, the other stuff is just GIGO), when you know a pattern is bad, you know a pattern is bad and no amount of modeling is going to change my mind on that.

Even JFK hasn't had this kind of multiyear snowfall drought have they? They've had back to back seasons under 10" before and 3 out of 4 seasons under 10" but this is multiple seasons under 5" which is half of that. Although I remember now that JFK woefully undermeasured "Nemo" at 6.4" when everyone around them in every direction (including Long Beach) had at least 10.0" so maybe their snowfall measurements shouldn't be trusted anymore.

no one on the south shore got less than 10" I dont see how JFK mismeasured this storm with 6.4".... with the heaviest snows to our east not to our west.

omg how did JFK only get 6.4" that's a complete embarassment. even Long Beach measured 10.0" someone at JFK was asleep at the switch. That storm brings back such angry memories for me lol

It did get us up near average snowfall. It's maddening to get a lot of rain and then 10" or so of snow on the back end and see that people to your east got over 30" lol. I always thought when it rained here the snow would be to the west. How is it possible for it to rain here and for the snow to be to the east?

Probably, but it's still deceptive to say that since they always talk about the snowfall drought of I-95 and always refer to NYC, Philly, Baltimore, DC, etc. al. Plus whenever the "benchmark track" is mentioned it's always in relation to coastal areas around here getting snow.