I know not everyone lives in a lake effect snow belt but when you see the lake effect areas getting buried in December, that means it’s a cold, wintry pattern everywhere around our area. There was ice fishing going on around here in December. That hasn’t been happening in very many Decembers the last 10 years. I know I’ve had a little more snow so far than many in this sub but this winter has at least felt like winter and not an extended November.