CPcantmeasuresnow

Of the 151 complete years recorded so far NYC has an average snowfall of 28.8 inches and a median of 27.1 Of those 151 seasons the breakdown is as follows: 69 seasons have had between 20-40 inches of snow or 46% of their winters. Maybe call that your normal NYC winter. 35 seasons over 40 inches or 23%, 38 between 10-19.9 inches or 25% 9 seasons below 10 inches or 6%. Summary, so far this winter in NYC ranks up there among the all time stinkers, and when you throw in the ridiculously high temperature anomaly so far just makes it worse.

In the 151 years of record keeping at Central Park, the average snow fall is 28.8 inches per season and the median is 27.1 inches so very little variation in the two numbers. I've never run the numbers for Boston and WDC but I would agree with your guess. I would think Bostons mean and median like NYC's are within a few inches of each other. In a place like Washington where the average snowfall is in the mid teens, a couple of 50 inch seasons will skew the average much more than a couple of 5 inch winters will.

Beautiful pictures, beautiful area. I stayed in North Conway and finally made it to the Mt. Washington summit this summer, incredible place. Stop in the Mt. Washington museum in North Conway if you get a chance and haven't been, it's a weather enthusiasts paradise. They still have stuff running this time of year that takes you up to 4,000 feet on Mt. Washington? If so I'll have to add that to the bucket list. I also got to the summit of Whiteface mountain near Lake Placid last September, another worthwhile trip. Leaves were at their peak in the valley and past peak above 3,000 feet, and pretty much leafless over 4,000 feet. On a clear day you can see presidential range from the peak.

21.1° and flurrying, add 0.5 inches of snow last night which now brings the seasonal to an even 20 inches. 12 inches of snow on December 2-3 and 8 inches since then in 7 separate events. What started so promising has turned into a nightmare of a winter.

I have to respectfully disagree. The name Snow88 has not been working weather wise for NYC metro for the past 2 winters. MJO812 is still new, he needs to give it more time.

Pictures? I'm desperate.

The stats below are for NYC, KNYC and represent the number of 10 inch or above, 6-9.9 inch and 6 inch or above snowfalls for each month since records have been kept the last 151 years. There have been 193 storms of 6 inches or above and 65 of 10 inches or above in this time frame. Although December at 37, does have more 6 inch snowfalls then March (31), there have been more 6 inch snowfalls from March 1 forward (38) than in December. NYC's best month for large snowfalls and snowfall in general is historically February, not the last few years though. No. of 10 + inch snows by Month 1…....November 12…..December 16…..January 25…..February 9…....March 2…....April 65….Total No. of 6-9.9 inch snows by Month 4…......November 25…....December 32…....January 40…....February 22…....March 5…......April 128....Total No. of 6 + inch snows by Month 5…......November 37…....December 48…....January 65…....February 31…....March 7…......April 193....Total Here's the average snowfall per month at Central Park since January 1991 through January 2020, the period that the next 30 year averages will be calculated on. Right now its 30.3 inches, they need 12.9 more by December 31 to get a 30.0 inch average for the period. October......0.1 November...0.5 December...4.9 January......8.7 February...10.5 March.........5.1 April...........0.4 Total......30.3

Do what I do on days like this, don’t waste your time opening them.

Sunday looks fairly calm through the entire route atm.

Thanks for the explanation Rob, that makes sense. It's just another sign of the times and the horrible pattern that has controlled us for the past 7 weeks that this is my biggest concern.

I noticed this morning that our sub forum title is not in bold like all of the other sub forums. Is this a subliminal message that our area does not really belong in the NYC metro, as several members to the south have argued during the past month? 32.4° 0.0 inches of snow last night. The seasonal stays put at 19.5 inches.

I received 16 inches from that storm. Lost 4 pear trees that still had most of their leaves on them. Of course that was followed by one of the worst winters in recent memory, now rivaled by this one.

Love the new name, maybe it will turn things around. At this point in time I'd try Voodoo if I thought it might help.

Was there any snow remnants anywhere along the higher elevations of 81 in Virginia?

And December started off so well. It seems like a lifetime ago.

Optimist

Next time you travel that part of 81, and probably better to do in the warmer months, do yourself a favor and take the Blue Ridge Parkway for the 130 or so mile stretch in Virginia that it runs parallel to 81. It takes longer but the views are incredible. Lots of nice spots to stop and hike or just take in the views.

I know people tend to look at the pictures the day before the blizzard when it was unseasonably mild and assume they were coming out of a mild winter, but the winter as a whole in 1887/88, temperature wise was brutal by our current standards, and snowfall was about average until March. By month, December 1887 averaged 33.4° with 9.0 inches of snow, January averaged 23.2° (about 16° below what our current January will be) with 11.0 inches of snow. February was somewhat of the head fake month for them, only 3.0 inches of snow but still an average temp of 29.2° for the month. March 1888 averaged 29.9° which is the only March in 150 years to average below 30° in NYC. And then there was the Blizzard, officially measured as 21.0 inches in Manhattan yet surrounding areas like Brooklyn measured 36 inches, New Haven 45 and Albany 48 inches. Uncle W has some great photos of Manhattan after the storm. When you look at those photos and when you consider there was no snow cover the day before, there is now way that was 21 inches in Manhattan. It was 30 minimum and probably closer to the 36 measured in Brooklyn. The tradition of under measuring the large storms in NYC began back then IMO.

As the coastal plain, city and Island people begin abandoning ship on this weekend which never looked good for them to begin with, I believe we still have a decent shot here at seeing something (by that I mean 4+) for this weekend. Sure I'd like to see a 980mb or below a little inside the benchmark, but it doesn't have to be that strong for us to get snow from this setup IMO. Glad to have a sub forum where I can say that without hearing about marginal temps, the stars and planets have to align perfectly for it to snow here, why aren't we like SNE their climo works for them, even if it does snow it will be white rain, it won't stick on the pavement, the sun angle is already coming into play, and it's gonna be spring in 4 weeks anyway.

Very passive aggressive to those in CNE and NNE. However I'm good with it. Extended out to the HV I'm guessing I'm in the 24-36 inch band. That might even be enough for me not to gripe about the 48-60 inch totals 50 miles to my east. Upon reflection probably not, I'd be annoyed.

Is it flu? If so the next question of course is did you get a flu shot this year?

The way some people act you'd never know we lived in an area that averages 50 or so inches of snow a season. We've had three feet of snow from a single storm and at worst case I was not able to go out for 24 hours. Is starvation even a possibility in 24 hours? This is assuming you had nothing to eat in the house until you went out for that milk, bread, and eggs you needed pre-storm.

And the consecutive days with snow cover officially ends today at 7. It's now 24 days for the season, which actually sounds like a lot considering what a horrible stretch the last 5 weeks has been. Here's to hoping next weekend begins a new streak.

I can't believe that, I ended up with 8, although I do vaguely remember the heavier precip all around you from that storm but never getting to you. One of the weirder radars I've ever seen if I'm thinking of the correct storm. March 2018 was 43.4 inches for me, the Highland Mills Monroe area seemed to jackpot every storm that month of course topped off with 5.8 on April 2nd. 50 inches in 30 days I shouldn't complain, but I would rather it had happened in December or January and not March.

The highest storm total I saw was 36 inches and it was only one place, The airport at St. Johns was a little shy of 31 inches. Maybe some are confusing the cm totals with inches.