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It's par for the course but yesterdays totals of 0.9 inches at Newark, 0.7 inches at LGA and smack in the middle 0.2 inches at Central Park leads me to believe the Conservancy dropped the ball at the Park. It certainly wouldn't be the first time, and won't be the last. The Conservancy has been better than the zookeeper but far from perfect, especially on the minor events. 15.0 inches to go by December 31, 2020 to get the 30 year average in the Park to 30 inches. What looked like a lock two years ago is starting to look iffy.

Not quite. I'm about 12 miles south of 84 in Orange County and have 15.6 inches on the season. Granted 12 of it from the December 1-3 storm so this is gradually descending into a C- winter here from what was an A, Dec 1 through the 15th.

0.8 inches 30.4 degrees, 15.6 now for the season Just the fact that I feel compelled to report this non event shows how dismal the current pattern is.

0.8 inches overnight, bringing the seasonal total to 15.6 At least I won't live to see the first snow less January in recorded history.

I've lost all respect for you.

I am hoping in my lifetime no month ever comes anywhere close to comparing to December 2015. I still have nightmares about that month. I never bothered to check, and I'm sure someone here can, but that had to be the greatest deviation above average for a month since they've been keeping records in NYC. I believe it ended up 13-14 degrees above normal at NYC stations.

Definitely. And then if the whole thing from 4/5 to COD back to 4/5 happens again in February then we're cooking in February, probably 70's with low 80's near and in the UHI. Forget about March, even though it's been the snowiest month in 4 of the last 5 seasons, if this scenario keeps repeating March is done and never delivers anyway, except of course in 4 of those last 5 years. April is now a summer month, except of course two years ago when 6 inches fell in the city. The least amount of snow in a single season is 2.8 inches in NYC (1972-73) and right now they're at 2.5 inches. There's a good chance right now they may break that record for least amount of snow in a season.

Topped out at 45 here. I’ll go with a solid D.

Yes the UKMET with the -9° for this morning was the ultimate fail.

A very reasonable compromise. The under counts from years past of the big storms for Central Park are legendary and infuriating. I don't have enough time to go over all of them, and you mentioned some of the big ones, and I don't want to get all worked up this morning delving into that subject. On the positive side I think things have improved the last 4-5? years since the task has been taken from the incompetent, and I don't give a sh!t Central Park Zookeeper, to the Park Conservancy. They do seem to at least try to get accurate measurements. Many times in the past the zoo didn't even bother to measure, or just guessed and usually low as you stated.

I would disagree with that. A 15.2 inch storm would tie for 20th place on NYC's list of greatest snow storms. To me an HECS, with the emphasis on the H for historic, would have to be a top 5 storm which in NYC's case would be 21.0 or more inches to break the top 5. But hey to each his own.

Done. 14 days and counting here as well.

Excellent point and driven in most part by the last 5 seasons where March has seen 51.2 inches of snow in Central Park, and December a paltry 11.9 inches.

With the 0.7 inches of snow in Central Park yesterday, NYC only needs 15.2 inches of snow between now and Dec 31 2020 for the new 30 year averages calculated in January 2021 to be 30 inches per season. One MECS away, or several nickel and dime events, like for example this December in the city.

February 9, 2017 There was 9.4 inches in the city most of which fell in a six hour period.

Only got down to 10.9° which did not even beat the 8.8° on December 8. Received 0.4 inches of snow from the squalls yesterday bringing the seasonal and monthly total to 14.8 Between the snow and ice on the ground can I technically call today a day with snow cover. The NWS defines that as a day with 1 inch or more on the ground.I have an inch of a combination of ice and snow but barely. Do I nee toI go to the replay booth?

I do get your point but in effect this morning becomes the 4th lowest December minimum of the 2010's. Your wording made it sound like it was the second lowest although I get what you meant.

Not really true. The January 23, 2016 was the big miss for the interior, since then the 1-2 foot storms have been favoring the inland locations. February 9, 2017 14.1 inches Monroe in Orange County NY, NYC 9.4, call that one a draw for climo differences. March 14, 2017 20.8 inches in Orange County Monroe, NYC 7.6 March 7, 2018 24.2 inches Orange county, Central Park 3.2 inches December 1-3 2019 12.0 inches vs. 1.6 in the Park.

I still carry the scars from that storm. The only time in my life I ever received a foot of snow and was pissed off for days. 30 miles north of me received 0 as you stated and 40-50 mile south in parts of NNJ and NYC 30 inches.

Hartford at 20 inches for the season per their 6PM report today, Bridgeport at 5.5 Albany the big winner so far this season at 29

Very true. Yet somehow 4 of the last 5 years in NYC March has been the snowiest month of the season.

29.8° and nothing I'm interested in falling. I knew something was wrong when my weather app jumped from a 3-5 to a 5-8 inch snow prediction about 6pm last night, when all short term models were starting to show the complete opposite.

29.8 light snow.

Quiet here. 29.7° which is up from 29.3° a half hour ago.

I know, I was just being a bit sarcastic.