CPcantmeasuresnow

I was talking about his biblical reference, must I really explain that.

I must have missed the part about stocks tanking. You gotta give it a rest man.

I never said it did. Observing the last 40 years in the HV and the Northeast in general makes a good case for it though. You can throw in all of the thousands of examples in the rest of the world too during this time period. Yet there will always be people like JB that insist it's all in our heads.

Perfectly normal temperatures for the first week of May. I loathe climate change.

If you use the 1981-2010 averages, which is all we will have until January 2021 when everyone in the Northeast will go up several inches at most locations as the 1980's are dropped and the 2010's added, you'd have a hard time arguing that Foxborugh averages 45-50 inches of snow per season. Taunton Ma 16 miles south of Foxborough averages 28 inches and Franklin Ma. 12 miles to their NW averages 41 inches. That would put Foxboroughs average closer to 35-37 inches, extrapolating the difference in miles from each. Sussex has a 40.7 average in the 1981-2010 period so that's a higher average than Foxborough but close enough that it's not worth a prolonged discussion, yet I made it one anyway. Just bored with this pattern and nothing much else to do. WTS I usually take 30 year averages with a grain of salt at most locations. My observations through the decades of following this is how notoriously bad many locations are at recording snowfall totals. What's 3-5 inches per season difference? It could be as little as an observer that just doesn't bother to measure the less than 1 inch totals or not take a peak measurement until a storm has settled and compressed.

That wouldn't be odd at all. NWNJ (Sussex specifically) actually averages more snow per season than Foxboro, although I'm sure there are several in the New England forum that would take offense to that fact.

In March 2012 Chicago had a nine day stretch in the middle of the month where they hit 80 or above 8 of the 9 days. The one day they didn’t it hit 79. I always wonder what that stretch would have looked like in mid July. Scary thought.

Don’t you live in the LHV in NY? Look at a map geographically that’s not the mid Atlantic. WDC, Delaware Virginia that’s the mid Atlantic.

If you run a line about 30 miles south of Binghamton and Albany to near the MAss/NH border to the south shore of Maine, to about 30 miles north of NYC and 20 miles north of the LI sound you've had a bad winter, but at least a storm or two or three. I had 12 inches from the December 2-3 storm and a grand total of 8.5 inches since. Anywhere south of that line you just haven't had anything worth even mentioning.

A fair assessment considering the tone of the last couple of hours of conversation. I’m still stuck at 20.5 inches on the season and looks like I’m not adding anything of significance any time soon. Throw in the ridiculous temps since Dec 22 and this now ranks in my bottom three winters of all time. This will also be the first winter I’ve never gone below 5. Other than the first two weeks of December what was even the point of having winter?

I checked the records at Poughkeepsie airport yesterday which go back to 1933 for temperatures. There is only one winter since 1933 that the temperature did not go below 5° and in that winter (1952/53) it got down to 6°. We are in pretty uncharted waters here regarding the mild winter temperatures.

Bluewave posted this a couple of days ago. If NYC doesn't get another measurable snowfall this season it will be the earliest end to the accumulating snows in a season ever. That sounds about right, this has been historically bad, why not set the record.

My low so far for this season is 5.1°. I believe this may be the first season ever the temperature never got below 5°. If it doesn't happen by March 15th it's not happening, and I don't see anything upcoming to make that happen.

I forget who it was that said several days ago that the Tug Hill was having a bad year. My response was 150-200 inches in a season is a bad year for them. Looks like their season will be improving. Just checked back a page. It was Animal, the man who declared, it's over. I wholeheartedly agree.

I received 24.9 inches in 15/16 but probably all of our difference there was the 11.2 inches I received being on the northern fringe (for 3-4 hours until the heavier bands rotated out) of the Jan 23 2016 storm. I know places 25 miles north of me received 0 from that storm and one of my kids 30 miles south in NNJ received 30 inches. In 2011/12 it was 29.2 inches, 16 of it from the October storm, 4.7 on Jan 21, 3.0 on Feb 24 and 2.7 on Feb 29th. All other events were an inch or less. That was very close to this season on the stinker scale, along with 2015/16

I'm currently at 20.5 so this would now rank as my worst winter accumulation wise in the ten years I've kept complete records. Add in the abnormally high temperatures and so far it has to rank as a top 3 stinker of all time. However as Julian alluded too, I'm pretty sure there will be several inches somewhere along the line in March or April that will take me above my all time recorded low of 24.9 in 2015/16. Anyone have records from 2001/02? I'm thinking that season had to be less than 20 inches around here. I blanked that season out completely, as I hopefully will do regarding this season in time.

What's the rush, it's 8 days away. This is a little like seeing Christmas decorations on Labor Day.

That's just not true. I looked at the 6Z GFS this morning and it had 30 inches for me for March 5th, six hours later I looked at the 12Z and it had 2 inches for Match 5th, it couldn't be more different.

Whatever your screen name was in 2010/11 I'd advise to going back to that. 53 straight days of snow cover in NYC, and 37 days of 6 inch or greater snow cover and Dec Jan Feb actually averaged near normal or below each month, 32.8, 29.7 and 36.0 respectively. Let's have that winter again.

Was he the one who was banned for a week about a week ago, then came back demanding to know why Bronx banned him? Or am I confusing my Nycweathers?

What did you end up with in yesterday’s lake effect and what was the jackpot area and amount yesterday?

MJO812 who until this past month was snow88. Since the name change hasn’t worked did he delete his account in a last desperate attempt to change this F’n pattern? God bless him for always trying.

Boston at 15.1 on the season. I'm still ahead of them at 20.5. The line from Albany across to Mass/NH border on north are the only spots doing okay snow wise. Everyone way above normal temp wise.

Was looking at those last night, what a paradise. When I got out of college 30 odd years ago I had a nice job offer in Syracuse and I didn't take it. A chance at life in paradise and I turned it down, how less frustrating winters could have been.

You really do seem to be in a black hole for snow. Any idea why and how large an area does it cover?